[01:14] MSG: [02:33] Part: michal left #corewars [02:43] Join: pkhuong joined #corewars [06:13] Join: anon joined #corewars [06:13] # Appears as HUGH [06:14] (#G3::E010M1) Hello [06:14] (#G610E116M1) :) [06:20] Part: anon left #corewars [06:41] MSG: Quit: humhum [07:10] Join: pkhuong- joined #corewars [07:13] MSG: Ping timeout: 252 seconds [09:59] Join: Mizcu joined #corewars [10:08] Join: suomynona joined #corewars [10:08] # Appears as HUGH [10:11] why such a sudden change of outlook [10:18] (#G010E116M1) :) [11:24] ah, back from Post-office [11:31] Join: Jens joined #corewars [11:32] Hi everybody, except suomynona of course [11:32] hi Jens [12:05] you don't like suomynona ? :) [12:05] hi Jens [12:05] hey miz [12:05] I just had yesterday guy who i dont know ask if i had any Ikkutousen on my ftp.. [12:05] lol [12:06] and, do you? [12:06] nope [12:06] hadnt heard of it before [12:06] oh I heard of it, haven't seen it [12:06] (#G610E310M5) wonders [12:06] (#G810E610M1) Wow, brx! [12:08] Join: anonymous joined #corewars [12:08] # Appears as ANNA [12:09] (#G010E010M1) Hello [12:09] (#G3::E810M1Tbrx) Hello [12:09] (#G210E210M1) :) [12:09] (#G610E116M1Tbrx) :) [12:10] (#G610E;10M5) wonders [12:10] (#G810E310M5Tbrx) wonders [12:10] (#G=10E=10M1) Wow, brx! [12:10] (#G010E610M1Tbrx) Wow! [12:10] (#G>10E@10M1) Wow? [12:10] (#G610E810M1Tbrx) Yes, wow! [12:10] (#G010EA10M1) Crikey! [12:13] MSG: (#G810E010M2Tlog_guy) Wow! [12:13] brx: Usually I don't like chatbots, especially if they generate a lot of garbage. [12:14] (#G010E310M1Tlog_guy) Chatbot? [12:14] (#G210E010M5TJens) wonders [12:15] Interesting fact: That chatbot doesnt have hostname set when you check it through irc-client(server?), but the IP resolves to adsl-82-148-36-37.fast.net.uk [12:15] Please, whoever owns this thing, KILL it [12:21] (#G=10E;10M5Tbrx) bows to brx [12:22] Damn this bast-ard is hard to balance, seems i need to give stone 5.5 processes to get it right [12:22] 135 wilfiz without qscan, but i am still not satisfied [12:23] Mizcu: How about doubling the overall number of processes? Then it should need 11 processes. [12:23] Not bad as idea, but it wont work [12:23] since im making a S/P [12:24] Then boot twice the number of papers and give the stone 11 processes [12:24] Altough that might be a bit much [12:26] MSG: (#G010E@10M2Tlog_guy) someone stole the magic cookies [12:30] ooh, i got it right with reepicheeps boot [12:30] :) [12:31] 137 wilfiz <3 [12:32] Without any optimization on paper, or with qscan [12:32] Let's hope then, that adding a qscan won't decrease the score [12:32] I dont think i will [12:33] :) [12:34] S/P really needs the 10 cycle speed advantage i get without Qscan [12:38] djn.f @table, #number | jmp elsewhere, last-of-table | table here [12:39] ? [12:40] i've always wanted to use a loop with djn.f x, #y , but i havent found really many uses for such [12:40] No, i dont use that in my S/P [12:41] Unknown by Anonymous scores 62 [12:41] Hullabaloo by Roy van Rijn scores 203 [12:41] Results: 9 56 35 [12:42] Ouch [12:42] Do you use a silk-style paper? [12:42] Ordinary silk-paper with bvowk's anti-imp clear-snippet [12:43] I didnt know Moore-paper can hurt that much [12:43] Time to get back to drawing-board [12:43] Yes, I'm still looking for a good silk-style paper, that is kind of immune to moore-style papers [12:44] Adding an imp-paper to the mix would take away the offensive edge.. [12:46] You could probably get some resistance by flooding core with mov's (silk-imps, mov.i #1, >1 -bombs), forcing an draw, but thats not good for killing. [12:46] Obviously.. [12:46] (#G210EA10M1Tbrx) unknown? [12:47] ... [12:49] Remember: In a paper vs paper fight it is important to copy not only itself, but also dat's. Papers that copy little or no Dats tend to jumble into core full of mov } > or some other similiar [12:49] Silks naturally copy some Dat's since 2nd and 3rd copy are usually atleast 2 instructions smaller, but still have 8 processes and thus copy 2 extra Dats [12:50] If one could get past that problem, that would be a nice boost on papers effectivity. [12:51] Actually, Moore-paper is one such [12:52] Now that i check its working again [13:03] But i still thank that the "rowing" it does is not good, though evidence it against me [13:04] Part: suomynona left #corewars [13:06] Join: pkhuong joined #corewars [13:06] MSG: Read error: Connection reset by peer [13:06] (#G610E010M1) Hello [13:06] (#G=10E210M1) :) [13:42] ugh, my ideas are not something that normal person could code [13:42] I need something special to send to hill.. [13:45] Join: Metcalf joined #corewars [13:45] Hi [13:46] hi Met [13:46] (#G>10E;10M1) Hello [13:46] (#G010E=10M1) :) [13:46] What's with the static? [13:47] Anonymous, you make ugly line noise? [13:47] (#G210E@10M1) Spiffy! [13:48] Chatbot combined with Microsoft's comic chat, ugh [13:49] Hi John! [13:49] (#G=10E010M1) Chatbot, where? [13:49] HI Mizcu, Jens [13:53] ugh, Staticstone + CCpaper scores relatively well, but is badly bunked my Moore-papers [13:54] my HSA-variant fails to reach hill and i dunno what to do with it [13:54] Some of that line noise in the logs contains the id "brx" [13:54] is it a sign? [13:54] Twoshot is too annoying [13:54] Met: its cchats way to tell someone is speaking directly someone other [13:55] Right click on anonymous, select control, select ignore! [13:55] Hmm, good thinking [13:55] * Jens has already done that [13:55] bye-bye to that crapspouter [13:56] (#G010E;10M1) Crikey! [13:56] (And there went another computer with censoring software -_-) [13:56] Join: sascha joined #corewars [13:56] Hi sascha! [13:56] Hi Sascha [13:56] (#G610E@10M1) Wow! [13:56] (#G=10EA10M1) Hello [13:56] Hi, just checking time difference between the new logger and my sweet home ;-) [13:57] (#G010E210M1) :) [13:57] Could somebody please help! I know that there is already a good paper with fsilk/fsilk/fsilk/mov.i # istep, { 1/mov.i x, < x Does anybody know its name? [13:57] hmm - 2 hours... who's that anonymous which's types [13:58] Jens: Npaper2 [13:58] No, nPaper II has a bsilk at then end [13:58] The last instruction is mov.i y, < x [13:59] No, I can't think of one like that. I take it the processes just drop off? [13:59] yes [13:59] its Bvowkkies evolved one [13:59] just a mov as last line, couldn't image that sch a paer can be successful... [14:00] Only paper i have seen with such open end [14:00] Maybe an open end is a good idea [14:01] hehee: [14:01] reepicheep: 34 57 9 111 [14:01] I've sent it (without qscan) to the hill ... we'll se [14:01] Guess what type of warrior got that score against reepi [14:01] If a cc-paper lands on an opponent, the opponent's processes can end up surviving in the loop [14:01] oneshot? [14:02] no [14:02] twin paper, second paper = Moore-style [14:02] btw. congrats john for your nano entry.. [14:02] (OS woulve scored better, reepi won 57, not the warrior) [14:02] Thanks Sascha [14:02] That scoring was by .33c stone [14:02] I have another to try which might do almost as well. (completely different) [14:03] Just a stone? Unusual [14:03] (#G210E;10M1) Spooky! [14:04] Its of course not an ordinary stone, its Bluefunk with different stepsize [14:05] Ah, how i dream of .5c bluefunk.. [14:07] spl #step, or rather: [14:07] spl #step, <-step [14:08] mov mov bomb,@-1 [14:08] add -3,-2 [14:08] djn.f -3,<-999 [14:08] bomb:dat 1,half [14:08] Not good code, but you get the idea [14:09] by half do you mean hop or coresize/2? [14:09] hop [14:12] I'm sleepy today! [14:12] and then there is the question of how do i prevenet self-bombing.. [14:12] Weekend, the sleepiest two days of the week ;-) [14:13] I have no idea to do the prevention with .5c stone. Atleast one than also "slips" the pattern to make multiple bomb-runs [14:13] Evoltmp's idea went a bit over my head and it was .33c too [14:14] And such cannot selfmutate into dat-clear, and must instead have fall-through clear [14:14] Hmmm... why can't it mutate? [14:14] because its in sammd -form [14:15] It just has to hit the link mov bomb,@-1 with any dat [14:15] link equ line [14:15] the add will screw possible coreclear [14:16] Change it to add -3, @-1 then. [14:16] you sure a sleepy [14:16] Spl #0 [14:16] add [14:16] mov [14:16] mov [14:16] djn [14:16] When the mov bomb,@-1 is overwritten, the add stops altering the mov Aren't we talking about the code above? spl mov mov add djn? [14:17] I am speaking of evoltmp's self-prevention, not .5c's [14:17] djn.f @-1,<-999 makes it a little bit a-decrement resistent [14:18] Its easy to have clear with smmad -clear, but with evol its nearly impossible [14:18] So, is anyone planning on giving me some competition on the nano hill? ;-) [14:18] forget it... [14:18] I'm sure someone could optimax something up to the top [14:20] Hehe, only 80 possible value, optimizings can be done by pencil'n'paper...But i'm complete without an idea what can be successful between this evolvers creatures [14:21] at least onspeed is still on. [14:21] * Jens is away for a while [14:21] its the oldest too - iirc [14:22] some more entries like john's and it will drop quickly :) [14:23] (#G=10E@10M1) Hey, It's Brx :) [14:23] (#G010E010M1) brx, you be the master of the core [14:23] (#G210E210M5) bows [14:23] someone kickban that thing. [14:23] is there a nano benchmark available ? [14:23] sascha: well, there's infinano [14:24] sascha: I would suggest taking all the warriors on infinano which are currently on the hill, plus a few evolved warriors from near the top of infinano [14:25] sascha: furthermore you would do me a favour if you could ignore on-speed :) don't take me seriously though. [14:26] Type-1 seems to score very nicely against on-speed [14:26] Metcalf: it seems so. :) [14:26] i'm just looking at on-speed... [14:26] Metcalf: funny enough, it doesn't score as well against around the core in 80 cycles [14:26] haven't seen the source for that one though [14:26] only the name sounds "speedy" ;) [14:27] brx, my latest nano warrior is named in your honour ;-) [14:28] "type-1"? : [14:28] well thank you =) [14:28] No, the one which didn't make it on just now! [14:29] * brx checks [14:29] It's time to go. [14:29] lol [14:29] * Metcalf waves [14:29] cu John, [14:29] you humble me john! bye :) [14:29] MSG: Quit: mov.i #1,1 [14:34] 99% of infinano seems to be clears...hmmm [14:38] errr ... that wasn't intended ... [14:39] Wrote a paper ... added a suboptimal qscan ... send to the hill ... and now it is 7th [14:40] heh, i say [14:41] I should start to optimax it [14:41] It probably all because of the wonderful name, that it has ;-) [14:42] MSG: Ping timeout: 252 seconds [14:45] Let's see, what remains, when I dat the hill [14:47] Hmm ... that is even better :) [15:03] Pork, Wok-vegetables, Oystersauce <3 [15:25] Join: brx_ joined #corewars [15:25] (#G>10E@10M1) Hello [15:26] (#G010EA10M1) :) [15:26] WB brx [15:28] MSG: Ping timeout: 252 seconds [15:29] (#G210E010M1) Wow! [15:50] Nick Change: brx_ changed nick to brx [16:22] hmm ... after 90 mins of optimaxing only a score of 140 in phase4 [17:01] Jens: for a paper? [17:01] yup [17:02] I have never actually noticed a huge benefit in optimizing paper constants instead of just taking some time to handpick some. [17:03] I don't optimize the paper steps. I think, that from the score surfaces I know enough to calculate good ones with my own scripts. At the moment I'm optimaxing the bomb and imp constants [17:04] those too [17:05] We'll see. At the moment I'm benchmarking the version, that is on the hill. Just to see, which phase4 score it would get. [17:05] are not so much of an issue I believe. once the paper is spread, it is spread. the time before that the bombs make their impact. and mostly that's the only time they do (for most simple bombing) [17:05] there are exceptions [17:08] Now it is 6th with a score of 143. As the 3rd is only 3.5 points away, I hope, that optimaxing will give me these points. [17:08] That would be then the first time, that I'm that high on the hill [17:09] Err ... if I remember correctly, I've never been that high on the hill ... I mean 6th [17:22] Join: michal joined #corewars [17:23] (#G610E210M1) Hello [17:23] (#G=10E;10M1) :) [17:24] hello anonymous ! [17:24] say hello to jens and Mizcu too [17:24] and next time you notice metcalf, tell him "I am fine" [17:24] anonymous: chant! [17:27] (#G>10E=10M1) brx, brx. brx, chant with me [17:27] anonymous: do you read me? [17:29] * brx wonders if anna is broke [17:29] n [17:29] anna: hello [17:30] anna: hello? [18:19] Join: Jen1 joined #corewars [18:19] (#G010E@10M1) Hello [18:20] (#G210EA10M1) :) [18:20] Join: Roy joined #corewars [18:20] hey'all [18:20] (#G610E010M1) Hello [18:21] hrm, we have a log_guy....where does he log? [18:21] (#G=10E210M1) :) [18:21] ohw, subject :P [18:21] MSG: Read error: Operation timed out [18:25] michal is bombarding me with movie tips [18:25] anyone of you seen "adaption", "secretary" or "donnie darko" [18:26] Donnie Darko :) have you NOT seen it? :o [18:26] no.. I haven't even heard about it :) [18:26] Very odd but cool movie! [18:27] And it had a nice website too, kind of a game (probebly still online) [18:27] this feels like that one time I asked some friends in the pub if mainz had made it into the bundesliga [18:27] and they were all like [18:27] "wtf, you didn't know?!" [18:28] Hehe, its a bit cult movie, and I love those kind of movies... seen Donnie twice, but its quite famous (I think) [18:28] Don't know the other two though [18:28] well I have only seen casablanca recently [18:28] :) [18:28] lol [18:28] the first is actually called "adaptation" [18:28] * Roy has never seen casablanca [18:28] Roy: very cliche. [18:29] Roy: but keep in mind that it is the cliche's origin, at least you could think of it that way :) [18:29] hehe, no idea what the movie is about etc, and as its b/w not really intrested [18:30] oh you miss out on cool things then, it really is good for being b/w, definitly watchable [18:30] a love story [18:30] a sad sad love story :) [18:30] "here's looking at you, kid" [18:30] *shrugs* [18:30] featuring quotes such as [18:30] actually, phrases [18:30] Suddenly I feel all tinkly inside, and want to be romantic [18:30] "I don'T know what to do any longer, you will have to think for both of us" [18:31] which I have heard a dozen of times in other movies [18:31] but this might very well be the original [18:31] :) [18:31] Hehe, probebly, they say its the origin of a modern movies [18:32] -a [18:32] Aah, speaking of romance, do you want to see what I made for my girlfriends birthday (next saturday) [18:32] sure [18:32] hit me [18:33] She wanted a picture of a rose, so I decided to photoshop something romatic together, and its now being printed 30x45cm, so I can frame it and give :) [18:34] And here is it (drums) http://www.deviantart.com/view/23004091/ [18:36] hey I like that actually :) [18:36] Heh, I hope she likes it as well... spend two days of searching and editing on that! [18:36] :) [18:37] Now I have to wait and see how they print it, then I can frame it...and sprinkle my bed with rose petals and light 20 candles etc...and hire casablanca! Now THATs romantic! [18:37] I find it peculiar how much men enjoy it to be told by women that they "are yours" [18:37] we like to have things. [18:38] heh :) [18:38] Hehe, so true ;) [18:38] just don't mention to her that you were reminded of that movie by an irc kid! [18:39] wow roy, you're scary on this pic :) [18:39] nah, she'll probebly hate the movie anyway ;) [18:39] excuse me!? I'm scary!? :o [18:39] michal: very vampiristic, don't you think? [18:39] I'm always like that, very evil :) [18:39] not always, I've seen other pics [18:40] And I've got mr. Spocks ears! [18:40] I am evil too.. [18:40] * brx checks for the only picture he has of himself online [18:41] * Roy is curious about the others michal has seen [18:42] Nick Change: Jen1 changed nick to Jens [18:42] gosh, can't show it. [18:44] http://beachvolleybal.fotopic.net/p17638291.html [18:44] a picture where I don't look evil! [18:44] Hi Roy! [18:44] hey jens [18:44] no prob, you can use it ;) [18:45] (was just going through the logs) [18:45] Is that you, Roy? On the last picture? [18:45] me doing the funky face [18:45] http://www.esl-europe.net/gfx/logos/playerphotos/620000/620863_big.jpg [18:46] Yup [18:46] Roy: is that you on the left? [18:46] Heh, gained some weight didn't I? :P [18:46] :) [18:47] Some pictures are odd... it looks like I have lots of muscle on this one (I don't actualy) [18:47] http://beachvolleybal.fotopic.net/p17588286.html [18:47] * Roy is setting the block [18:48] it's odd because you are hanging there in the air like a moron ;) [18:48] just kidding! [18:48] :( really just kidding, don't hate me now [18:48] sorry, now I hate you [18:49] :( [18:49] Yeah, that was quite bad!! ;-) [18:49] If you had a warrior on the '94nop hill, I would push it off now ;-) [18:49] just kidding :-P don't hate me for saying I hated you, because I didn't, get it? [18:49] no please don't, make some rude remarks about my picture if you please or about my corewars incompetency! [18:50] okay, then please refrain from making any rude remarks [18:50] :) [18:50] Hehe, girls sometimes do that, they say things that completly don't make sence in the mind of a men, things that make our heads meltdown [18:50] like this: [18:51] When men have to pee, they tell there friends: "Yo, I'm off for a loo" [18:51] And girls do two things: [18:51] 1. They try to sneek out, or powder their noses [18:51] 2. Girls say meltdown sentences: "I have to go, but I don't want to..." [18:52] You'll learn to ignore such things soon enough ;-) [18:52] STUPID WOMEN, GO ALREADY! [18:52] Roy: those "meltdown sentences" rock [18:52] and they have quite an effect [18:52] even if you have studied them [18:52] Not my face...those senteces are evil! [18:53] They set you on hold for some seconds...just long enough for you to forget what they actualy said [18:53] or when they finally leave but come back 5 minutes later [18:54] they present themselves as utterly helpless [18:54] and men like that [18:55] Lol, but it doesn't make sence, why in godsname would you say something like: "I have to go, but I'm not in the mood" !?!? When you have to go, GO! and when you don't feel like going, go anyway and stop whining! [18:55] because they want us to feel good about it [18:56] don't complain, you know you like it that way! [18:56] we enjoy being manipulated like that as long as it lasts [18:57] afterwards of course it all adds up to an incredible amount of mess you may whine about [19:01] (also, a society without ways to distinctively refer to a specific individuum of the pack would be interesting) [19:01] Well, it bothers me that women manipulate so much, and I only find out when its long past [19:01] Roy: we do the same to them [19:02] Like giving them pictures in frames, and light candles etc :P [19:02] whenever we show no fear and admit that we did in fact experience it, or show fear but overcome it when time is due, we play our roles. [19:03] that too. [19:03] we like to care for things we call our own :) [19:03] MY girlfriend, MY job, MY car :) [19:03] MINE MINE MIN!! [19:04] :) [19:04] the next time I meet a beautiful girl I better am prepared for her. [19:04] no more allowances. [19:04] You can always try to do some mind-manipulation! [19:05] Roy: yes I do that actually, but some time on the way I always forget my agenda and become immersed [19:05] Somewhere I read you can plant ideas/images/thoughs into peoples minds with just saying stuff the right way, pretty cool [19:05] and then the mess happens [19:06] "Do YOU MINE(d) if I buy you a drink?" [19:06] lol [19:06] Laugh, but that actualy works (so they say..) [19:07] you could go a bit further [19:07] "do you mine if I bury you a drink" [19:08] although that is probably a morbid and tasteless thing to say [19:09] just whisper "you are mine" into ear when she is asleep [19:10] To help a friend: Nice music, are you into this band? (ARE YOU IN HIS BED?) [19:10] "What would you say, if id want to be the one to bury you?" [19:10] Mizcu: very poetic [19:11] Very morbid.. [19:11] I really like that phrase on the picture "I glanced to the side and I found you there smiling" [19:12] the door stands open \ your fragrance with a breeze \ breaks the loneliness [19:14] Just little things can drive women crazy, I once said to my girlfriend (didn't even think about it) "Hey, you look wonderful this morning" when she came out of the shower when I went downstairs...and weeks after that she still said: "I really liked you saying that, thanks! (k)" [19:15] * Roy should say that more probebly [19:16] http://solace.is-a-geek.org:8080/projects/maybe_poems/untitled [19:17] probably [19:17] women have a sense for when a compliment is really meant [19:17] I suppose complimenting them casually adds to the "believability" factor [19:17] But then again they can answer "What, im not beautiful on other mornings?" [19:17] yeah.. I say it all the time, but thats about the only time it was completly not forced :) [19:18] Mizcu: only if they are snappy, cruel or witty [19:18] Mizcu: I like two of those qualities in women :) [19:18] they still register the compliment as positive [19:18] "Available, sane, pretty, choose three" (dont remember original form) [19:19] Mizcu: of course you remember that I have a soft spot for the crazy ones with scarred souls and high mental instability [19:19] yes.. [19:19] but pretty is good, I agree ;) [19:20] The general rule on about people on IRC seems to be "Attractive, single, mentally stable: choose two" Bash 205408 [19:21]