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[08:10]	<Mizcu> Newest Opera has no ad-banner <3
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[16:33]	<Jens> Hi Sascha!
[16:34]	<sascha> Hello Jens 
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[17:11]	<Mizcu> 127 with qscan.. still not that happy
[17:16]	<Mizcu> some goddamn bug in all good optimaxed steps
[17:16]	<Jens> :(
[17:18]	<Mizcu> Though someone would not call it a bug, just a guide to what the paper should be ;o
[17:18]	<Mizcu> But i disagree to such thought
[17:19]	<Jens> Is it a bug in your paper or in optimax?
[17:20]	<Mizcu> Optimax chooses stepsizes where the paper somehow damages itself to run in a different pattern than it should
[17:21]	<Mizcu> yes.. one where the first silk is killed early and the two remaining silk-parts create different pattern than i think would be optimal
[17:26]	<Mizcu> though there is some logic in it (a bit different silk than ones you normally see)
[17:27]	<Mizcu> (And it is resistant to Moore-papers :D )
[17:27]	<Jens> A normal silk-style paper?
[17:27]	<Mizcu> Quite normal, yes
[17:28]	<Jens> Does it kill other papers, too? Like Moore-style papers do?
[17:29]	<Mizcu> no
[17:30]	<Mizcu> There, sent to koth to see how badly it does
[17:30]	<Jens> Good luck :)
[17:32]	<Jens> http://www.ociw.edu/~birk/COREWAR/TINY/HILL/moominpapa.red hat einen qscan mit genau 12 Instruktionen
[17:32]	<Jens> oops ... wrong window
[17:33]	<Mizcu> Atleast better thang sascha's test
[17:34]	<Jens> Tweak it a little bit further :)
[17:35]	<Mizcu> That would need me to use different stone, which would be one more hell to do
[17:35]	<Jens> Try to copy one from another warrior
[17:36]	<Jens> That's what I do, when I don't want to think anymore
[17:36]	<Jens> ... and even do, when I try to think
[17:37]	<Mizcu> It seems i gotta use the bit elder technique of first optimizing paper and then adding stone to the soup
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[17:47]	<Metcalf> Hi
[17:47]	<Mizcu> hi Met
[17:48]	<Metcalf> nanohof updated
[17:51]	<Mizcu> Drama-fb doesnt seem to kill the imps at hill.. annoying considering that the paper-part has an anti-imp capability
[17:52]	<Metcalf> :-(
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[17:58]	<Jen1> Hi John!
[17:59]	<Jen1> Metcalf: Do you plan to update the '94nop-hof soon?
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[18:01]	<Metcalf> Hi Jens
[18:01]	<Jens> :)
[18:01]	<Metcalf> Hmmm... okay, I'll do that next
[18:02]	<Jens> That would be fine. It is quite interesting to read it from time to time
[18:06]	<sascha> Hi John....
[18:06]	<Metcalf> Hi Sascha
[18:06]	* sascha is back
[18:07]	<sascha> When can we expect the next issue from your tinywarrior ?
[18:09]	<Metcalf> Hmmm... actually I have most of it done
[18:21]	<Metcalf> That's better, temporarily back on the 94nop hill
[18:22]	<Jens> Temporarily? You're third
[18:22]	<Jens> Nice :)
[18:23]	<Metcalf> Thanks.
[18:24]	<Metcalf> I've been tweaking and recombining some of my scanners since I was last here
[18:25]	<Jens> I've just sent your email, John
[18:26]	<Metcalf> Thanks
[18:27]	<Jens> If sth. is wrong with the data, just tell
[18:27]	<Jens> Hey, that is another warrior
[18:27]	<Jens> I SAID: NOBODY TOUCH THE HILL. IT'S MINE NOW. I WANT TO STAY KOTH ;-)
[18:29]	<Jens> John, you can't do that to me. I have just a little paper on the hill. And you are keeping to send scanners. That is just evil ;-)
[18:29]	<Metcalf> Sorry, I didn't read that log!
[18:30]	<Jens> lol
[18:31]	<Jens> You many other scanners do you still have?
[18:32]	<Mizcu> 2 more scanners on hill.. Drama would score better now X)
[18:32]	<Metcalf> I have to go in a minute, I'm off to a quiz
[18:33]	* Jens waves
[18:33]	<sascha> or write another scanner..
[18:33]	<sascha> 1 minute should be enough for john
[18:33]	* Metcalf might write a paper next ;-)
[18:33]	<Jens> How about another stone
[18:33]	<Jens> ?
[18:33]	<Metcalf> Hmmm... about 10 minutes.
[18:33]	<Jens> Argh ... no papers!!!
[18:33]	<Metcalf> I once wrote a scanner in 10 mins from scratch, which entered 94nop
[18:34]	<Jens> .. and probably became koth at once
[18:34]	<Jens> Ah ... that is better ... begin koth again
[18:34]	<Jens> It is quite hard not to dat the hill continuously, when a new warrior was sent
[18:35]	<Metcalf> :-)
[18:35]	* Metcalf waves
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[19:23]	<Mizcu> not good, i figured it out
[19:24]	<Jens> Not good? Your warrior?
[19:24]	<Mizcu> Optimax killed the full-sized papers because they drained too many processes from the stone
[19:24]	<Jens> how can optimax kill a paper?
[19:24]	<Mizcu> By giving a spread which is either a) suicidal b) in the reach of stone
[19:25]	<Mizcu> suddenly instead of 3silk-papers i had 2-silk papers which not surprizingly scored worse
[19:26]	<Jens> strange
[19:27]	<Mizcu> not really, since then the stone got more aggressive and beated scanners lot better
[19:27]	<Jens> Have you sent that "optimaxed" version already to the hill?
[19:28]	<Jens> Now there are two more scanners
[19:28]	<Mizcu> Yes, it was the one i sent earlier
[19:28]	<Mizcu> I would get more scores now, but it wouldnt stay
[19:30]	<Mizcu> *sigh*
[19:30]	<Mizcu> double-spl is too heavy, 5/1 with singe-spl too little..
[19:30]	<Mizcu> And i cannot delay the launch of paper
[19:32]	<Jens> :(
[19:32]	<Mizcu> hell, 7/1 is not enough..
[19:44]	<Mizcu> wtf? smal change and 145 wilfiz..
[19:44]	<Jens> :)
[19:44]	<Mizcu> (i use wfiz to check if small changes are worth anything, not for serious benching)
[19:44]	<Jens> Try it on the hill ... that is quite easy, too
[19:45]	<Jens> You can always optimize it, if gets on the hill and replace the old version with the optimized
[19:47]	<Jens> Common Mizcu, I'm curious
[19:48]	<Jens> Maybe your warrior is good enough to push two warriors at once from the hill ;-)
[19:48]	<Mizcu> good compile returned
[19:48]	<Jens> :)
[19:50]	<Mizcu> The paper needs a bit of strenghtening
[20:06]	<Mizcu> urgh, this is fogging hard to get balanced right..
[20:06]	<Jens> Do you boot it all away?
[20:06]	<Mizcu> Kudos to Met/Grab for getting Reepicheep just right
[20:06]	<Mizcu> I boot stone away
[20:07]	<Mizcu> booting paper would be nice, but it needs bootstrap, which is not good to boot
[20:07]	<Jens> I "often" boot both away and copy both before starting the copies
[20:07]	<Jens> i.e. first I make a complete copy of the stone and the paper and then I boot then
[20:08]	<Jens> That way I can give the stone as much processes as I like
[20:11]	<sascha> ok...time to go...
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[20:25]	<Mizcu> 5 points better without re-optimaxing but with process balancing..
[20:25]	<Jens> :)
[20:25]	<Mizcu> *is back to evil snickering*
[20:26]	<Jens> what is your wilfiz-score now?
[20:26]	<Mizcu> probably lower
[20:26]	<Jens> How do you know, it is 5 points better then?
[20:27]	<Mizcu> by using fsh'nop for comparing
[20:27]	<Jens> ok
[20:54]	<Mizcu> offtopic: http://juuri.org/fatalii/?u=g&c=new&id=3456
[21:03]	<Mizcu> lowest topscore 103, highest 129 after 10 minutes of optimizing, good sign
[21:03]	<Mizcu> (i have scores at dynamic, so average score will rise..)
[21:06]	<Jens> :)
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[21:06]	<Mizcu> hi brx
[21:07]	<brx> hi miz
[21:07]	<Jens> Fluff Fluff ... err ... hi brx!
[21:07]	<brx> hello jens
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[21:07]	<brx> wtf
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[21:16]	<Mizcu> (no-one has yes commented my "spot the loonie" in logs..)
[21:17]	<brx> Mizcu: sigh.
[21:17]	<Mizcu> same to you, broxen
[21:29]	<Jens> Mizcu: When did you say that? ("spot the loonie")
[21:29]	<Mizcu> yesterday or two days ago
[21:30]	<Jens> ... found it
[21:31]	<Jens> Nice ... stddev of 75
[21:33]	<Jens> What is your current phase4-score, Mizcu?
[21:33]	<Mizcu> currently best 132.08
[21:33]	<Mizcu> 38 minutes
[21:37]	<Mizcu> Highscore in phase 2 94..
[21:37]	<Jens> against which warrior?
[21:37]	<Mizcu> against 6
[21:37]	<Jens> Quite low, isn't it?
[21:39]	<Mizcu> They are ones that scored too well against the version before starting optimax
[21:40]	<Mizcu> With one S/I just to round the scores
[21:41]	<brx> hey Jens 
[21:41]	<Jens> yes?
[21:42]	<brx> did you know that joschka fischer went to the same school as me and fiveop? :)
[21:43]	<Jens> Did you know, that at this very moment I definitly have some molecules of nitrogen inside me, that Julius Caesar exhaled, when he was murdered?
[21:44]	<Jens> ;-)
[21:44]	<brx> :]
[21:46]	<brx> Jens: fischer dropped out of school too. :)
[21:46]	<Mizcu> I definately have radioactive material in me that came from Tshernobyl
[21:47]	<Mizcu> (Thats not a joke..)
[21:47]	<Jens> Who hasn't?
[21:47]	<Mizcu> Penquins..
[21:47]	<Jens> It is only a question of how much does you have inside you
[21:47]	<Jens> Penquins? what is that?
[21:48]	<Mizcu> q->g
[21:52]	<Mizcu> Watching mythbusters -> second brainhalf away
[21:53]	<Jens> Yes, I know how that feels, only, that normally I have no brainhalf working ;-)
[21:55]	<brx> same here.
[21:55]	<brx> most of the times I am just busy slacking
[21:55]	<brx> and craving for whiskey.
[22:01]	<Jens> Time to go ...
[22:01]	<Jens> bye
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