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[02:36] MSG: Ping timeout: 252 seconds [02:46] Join: brx joined #corewars [02:50] MSG: Ping timeout: 252 seconds [02:51] Join: brx joined #corewars [02:56] MSG: Ping timeout: 252 seconds [03:22] Join: brx joined #corewars [03:26] MSG: Read error: Operation timed out [03:34] Join: brx joined #corewars [03:42] MSG: Ping timeout: 252 seconds [03:50] Join: brx joined #corewars [03:54] MSG: Ping timeout: 252 seconds [04:01] Join: brx joined #corewars [04:06] MSG: Ping timeout: 252 seconds [04:27] Join: Mizcu joined #corewars [07:31] Join: fiveop joined #corewars [08:09] Join: Roy joined #corewars [08:09] Nenad: 150.3 and counting ;-) [08:10] btw. I had a dream about all of you guys, there was a CW meeting right here in Holland... pretty cool! [08:10] * Roy is hanging around here too much, now dreaming about it :-( [08:12] Actually it isn't a very bad idea, lot of places etc to hold a meeting here, good connectivity and Holland is bang in the middle of Germany and Brittain and France [08:14] I could give you guys a tour through Rotterdam (biggest port of Europe) or we could visite Amsterdam [08:16] Hrm, if there is enough animo I could see what I can do [08:19] Was I there too? [08:30] No sorry, you wheren't there I think, I can't remember much though, you might have been ;) [08:32] But you are invited! [08:34] Haha [08:34] But I am in the US [08:34] Much too far [08:35] Where in the US? [08:36] San Dimas? [08:38] Hrm, Rotterdam to Ontario is (just) 2050 euro :) [08:38] Oops, that was businessclass, its only 968 euro [08:40] To Amsterdam is even cheaper, 874 euro [08:42] Ok ok its a bit much, I know :-) [08:43] But I'm really thinking about this now, I might set up a plan and post it on r.g.c [08:43] Just to see the animo [08:45] Ok, I'm off to a meeting, bye! [08:45] MSG: [10:18] Join: |caesar joined #corewars [10:25] Join: elkauka joined #corewars [10:25] hi [10:26] <|caesar> hi,elk:-) [10:27] <|caesar> nice to see u [10:27] Nick Change: |caesar changed nick to caesar [10:28] hi c [10:30] have you already writen a cw warrior on your own? [10:32] :( no this time [10:38] but i have chang the program"corewar2.exe"to chinese [10:39] MSG: Ping timeout: 252 seconds [10:39] i have to eat sth,bbl [10:59] MSG: Ping timeout: 252 seconds [11:25] Join: caesar joined #corewars [11:27] Join: |caesar| joined #corewars [11:33] Join: Roy joined #corewars [11:37] Join: Nenad joined #corewars [11:37] Hi [11:37] Hello friends. [11:37] Hi Nenad [11:38] <|caesar|> hi nenad [11:38] MSG: Quit: GoodBye , My Friends... [11:38] Nick Change: |caesar| changed nick to caesar [12:14] Join: elkauka joined #corewars [12:14] hi@all [12:14] hi elkauka [12:15] Hi elkauka [12:20] * Nenad throws a piece of garlic at elkauka, trying to drive away his vampires [12:20] t:) [12:21] who can tell me the maxtor 6Y080L0's MTBF? [12:22] ? [12:22] how long a hard's life? [12:23] *hard-HDD [12:25] I've got to go. I was only here for a short visit today. bye! [12:25] * Nenad waves [12:25] * Roy waves! [12:25] MSG: [12:26] * caesar waves [12:26] bye,nenad [12:33] MSG: [12:58] Nobody here..? :( [14:06] yes,roy [14:11] how are you? got it working? [14:12] fine,it's evening here,im watching a dvd now:) [14:12] not making a warrior? :) [14:13] no this time [14:13] what dvd? [14:13] did u? [14:13] I make warriors all day :) [14:13] that's cool [14:13] im just a begining now [14:14] and i still not got the first step to the corewar:( [14:15] Just try and see what happens [14:16] u like the 94nop too? [14:16] yes, its my favourite [14:17] is it hardly for a new player? [14:18] yes its pretty hard, but if you try hard you'll learn it [14:19] MSG: [14:35] MSG: [15:00] Join: sf joined #corewars [15:00] Hiya [15:03] hi,sf [15:03] but it's for sleeping time for me [15:03] bye,all [15:03] :( [15:03] Good-night [15:04] Part: caesar left #corewars [15:04] Join: Jens joined #corewars [15:04] :) [15:04] Hello Jens [15:09] fiveop: have you got a corewar page? (just looking through logs) [15:34] Join: brx joined #corewars [15:36] Hi Brx [15:36] hi Sf [15:37] (two fsck runs and a few strained nerves later, my system finally decided to boot today) [15:41] you must be running linux [15:42] Hi Bvowk [15:42] Have you turned your autosubmitter off? [15:45] yes [15:45] its going to be off for a while.. [15:45] I'm attempting to clean my nano pit.. [15:45] but I'm having problems scaling my scoring software up that high :) [15:46] :( [15:46] It was helping me reach age 100! [15:46] mmap won't let me play with that much memory in python.. and it turns out that the database driver won't let me stuff 23GB worth of data away [15:51] What are you trying to do? Round-robin them? [15:52] You could divide into chunks of a few thousand warriors, round-robin those and take the best 50 out of each for a final round-robin [16:00] yeah.. I'm trying to roundrobin the whole wad [16:01] sf: that'd be quite a pile of splits tho [16:01] there's 152,000 [16:01] Not many of your hill warriors are published [16:02] just ask :) [16:02] they're all almost identical [16:02] bvowk, please can you publish some of your hill warriors [16:02] heh [16:02] can you read tarballs? [16:02] I would like to benchmark against some of them :) [16:02] Yes [16:02] oh.. excellent! [16:03] one second. [16:03] Are you going to make me search through 152,000 warriors myself?! [16:04] www.math.ualberta.ca/~bvowk/files/save-152k-2005-10-12.tgz [16:04] erm.. [16:04] well.. that'll have pretty much everything ever.. [16:04] so if you want one from a ways back.. [16:04] are you running unix? [16:05] Windoze [16:05] use find [16:05] Okay thanks [16:05] just drop the -eve-foo bit, and they're in the file with the same name [16:05] erm.. [16:05] what version of windows? [16:06] (before you try untarring that) [16:06] XP [16:06] I won't untar it [16:06] I'll just open it in word and seach for the names :) [16:06] lol [16:07] xp is good.. you won't have any problems if you untar it.. [16:07] That many files might take forever to untar! [16:07] if you were running something older, 152k files in a single directory can be problematic. [16:07] yeah [16:07] I'll post the top end of the thing if I can figure out how to score them [16:07] MSG: Ping timeout: 252 seconds [16:09] Join: brx joined #corewars [16:13] How about an Olympus approach to scoring [16:14] MSG: Ping timeout: 252 seconds [16:14] Join: brx joined #corewars [16:15] hey.. [16:15] I think this might work :) [16:20] MSG: Ping timeout: 252 seconds [16:21] Join: elkauka joined #corewars [16:22] Hi [16:23] hi [16:28] Join: brx joined #corewars [16:30] MSG: Quit: "Help! I've been g:lined from my mIRC!!" Bersirc 2.2: less n00bs [ http://www.bersirc.org/ - Open Source IRC ] [16:32] * Jens is back [16:32] I'm 0.02% through my scoring. [16:33] Hi bvowk! How long did it take? [16:34] to get that far? [16:34] 20 minutes or so [16:34] for 0.02%? [16:34] but thats only one machine.. [16:35] and then I've got postprocessing [16:35] aw crap.. there's not enough disk space here :/ [16:37] Join: Roy joined #corewars [16:37] Hi all [16:37] hi roy [16:37] hi bvowk [16:43] Join: brx_ joined #corewars [16:43] MSG: Ping timeout: 252 seconds [16:46] ok. [16:46] looks like I'm going to need 450GB for processing and postprocessing. [16:46] erg. [16:47] ok... the reports size is inconsequential compared to that.. [16:49] MSG: Ping timeout: 252 seconds [16:51] Join: brx joined #corewars [16:55] Join: brx_ joined #corewars [16:55] hurry roy [16:56] * Roy is fast as lightning [16:56] MSG: Ping timeout: 252 seconds [17:00] MSG: [17:00] Join: Roy joined #corewars [17:03] . [17:03] . [17:03] test [17:03] Nick Change: brx_ changed nick to brx [17:03] seems to work :) [17:04] good. [17:05] do you have any ideas for it already, roy? [17:06] yes, a lot :) but its still secret until I know a little more [17:06] :) alright then [17:06] * Roy got some ideas from Nenad about finance, hopefully it'll work out [17:07] whats finance? [17:07] If it works I might get a free (good) place to sleep for everybody and free food! I already know how to get a beamer (for presentations etc) [17:07] ICC2006 in Holland [17:24] What does ICC stand for actually..? [17:24] International Corewar...C? [17:27] heh. I am not too sure about that last C either. convention? congress? [17:27] comunity? [17:27] Convention sounds ok.. from now its convention :) [17:28] :) [17:28] I am sure fizmo knows [17:30] Yes, he must come online...now :) [17:33] little pushy eh roy? [17:34] No, wishfull [17:34] anybody who has a .torrent file - url that works? still testing azureus under suse 9.1 [17:34] elkauka: you are not serious, are you? :) [17:34] elkauka: try www.animesuki.com [17:36] newnova.com mininova.com etc...www.bitorrent.com and search :) [17:40] Part: Jens left #corewars [17:51] seems to work [17:51] that said [17:52] there have been some problems regarding azureus and the bt protocol [18:01] is there any published server software to run a cw hill? or am i forced to rewirte p mars on my own :) [18:01] elk: I'm sure there is some.. [18:01] but I've never found it [18:01] if you write one.. publish the code! :) [18:02] that helps :) [18:02] no, not really :) [18:02] hrm, isn't that only a matter of a few scripts, a mars and a mail server? [18:03] the mail server being optional. [18:04] you could ask jens, I wager his quickscanner hill is pythonized [18:30] http://home.kabelfoon.nl/~mtr/roy/ICC2006/ [18:33] Join: brx_ joined #corewars [18:33] ok, I'm off, ciao! [18:33] MSG: [18:34] MSG: Ping timeout: 252 seconds [18:41] MSG: Ping timeout: 252 seconds [18:42] Join: brx joined #corewars [18:47] Join: brx_ joined #corewars [18:48] MSG: Ping timeout: 252 seconds [18:52] Join: brx joined #corewars [18:54] MSG: Ping timeout: 252 seconds [19:54] Join: Fizmo joined #corewars [19:54] hi [19:59] * Fizmo thinks he would attend on a ICC2006 in Holland ;-) [20:06] greets fizzer [20:06] how goes? [20:13] * bvowk checks to see if fizmo is still breathing. [20:15] oh, hi ;-) [20:15] I'm fine, thanks. And you? [20:17] pretty fair [20:17] I've laid my mits onto 2TB of storage and I'm gunna try scoring the worlds largest nano hill [20:18] I'm hoping it'll take 2 weeks [20:18] heh, that's pretty cool [20:19] still wondering why none of the evolvers creates something like Metcalf's Type-1 [20:20] because we need a path [20:21] its hard to develop something brittle [20:22] well, I think the reason is, that scanner and other more 'complex' strategies are very sensible to a single wrong instruction and to wrong values in the a- and b-fields [20:22] every instruction must nicely fit [20:23] in contrast to papers or clears [20:23] yeah.. [20:23] thats it exactly [20:23] you can't approach with an almost scanner.. [20:23] its either working or its trash [20:24] and trash won't be brut foreced [20:24] ... :) [20:24] so there seems to me a kinda evolution in evolving [20:24] imp -> clears -> papers -> ?? [20:25] heh [20:25] fancy papers -> nothing :) [20:25] well, that seems to me the dead end of evolution [20:26] I'm working on it :) [20:26] wouldn't be interesting to use the instruction statistics of scanner only? [20:27] I know that you have a general instruction statistic over all kind of warriors [20:27] yeah [20:27] I've tried that.. [20:27] I don't ever seem to get anything.. [20:27] although I got a scanner with the new not evolver [20:28] but even feeding a few million variations on that guy back to the old evolver, no luck [20:29] hmm. 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