[02:10] MSG: Ping timeout: 252 seconds [02:13] Join: datagram joined #corewars [02:23] MSG: Read error: Operation timed out [02:26] Join: datagram joined #corewars [07:14] Join: Mizcu joined #corewars [09:50] Join: fiveop joined #corewars [09:51] Join: caesar joined #corewars [09:52] Evening, everyone. [09:53] heh,datagram [09:54] MSG: Ping timeout: 252 seconds [09:56] Join: fiveop joined #corewars [10:09] I'm working on a tiny python script to help with steps and overwriting your own code [10:11] ok,datagram maybe oneday i'll know what's ur say,but now i want to reading [10:15] Enjoy caesar [10:29] Join: fiveop_ joined #corewars [10:29] MSG: Client Quit [10:43] Join: Jens joined #corewars [10:43] :) [10:44] Hey Jens [10:44] Working on a new warrior, datagram? [10:47] Working on a program to help me with coresteps and overwriting my own code [10:49] Do you understand Python? [10:49] Yes [10:50] I've already written several Python-scripts to help me benchmarking and optimizing my warriors [10:51] Maybe I should put them online ... [10:51] But I think most people just use their own methods and scripts. [10:52] *shrug* [11:06] Join: sf joined #corewars [11:06] Hi all [11:06] :) [11:07] Great, a new tournament! :) [11:07] I'm in [11:10] Is the tournament page online? The post doesn't mention where [11:11] http://www.corewar.info/tournament/cwset2005/ - but most links don't work [11:11] Notttttttttttt yet [11:11] Err [11:11] Damnable touchpad [11:13] :) [11:14] If thinks I'm holding the key down when I hit the touchpad by accident [11:14] :) [11:14] hehe [11:14] And I type so fast all of that is already in buffer and enter has been pressed : ) [11:18] The nano hill has gone quiet and I'm nearly age 100 on there [11:18] I'm waiting patiently [11:31] Heh [11:32] What position are you in? [11:32] 42nd age 97 [11:34] The evolved programs are very good at nano [11:34] But humans rule the hill :) [11:34] : P [11:34] So they should [11:36] Are vampires considered rock or scissors? [11:37] scissors [11:37] Is stone the only rock? [11:37] and various bombers [11:37] But you cannot put all warriors in the three categories stone/scissor/paper [11:38] I'm just trying to make a basic intro to strategy for my presentation [11:38] imp + specialist [11:38] paper > rock > scissors > paper [11:38] Or paper > rock < scissors, I don't know [11:39] I have: Paper = Replicators (Paper, Silk) Rock = Bomber (Stone), Scissors ?? [11:39] I don't know how to classify scissors [11:39] Stone (= Bomb) [11:39] *bomber [11:39] But it's not rock stone scissors [11:39] I mean, paper stone scissors [11:40] That sounds weird [11:40] Yes, we already had that problem. It is a cultural thing [11:40] Hehe [11:40] paper beats stone (bombers), which beats scissors (scanners / vampire), which beats paper (replicators) [11:40] sf, I know [11:40] But I need a way to describe scissors [11:40] Like how Paper = replicator and Stone = bomber [11:41] scanner [11:41] But vampires aren't scanners (or don't have to be) [11:41] No [11:41] hmm ... you can write a vampire, that doesn't scan [11:42] I don't know what to do :/ [11:42] scissors is a class of warriors which generally beats a class of warriors known as papers [11:42] That's why it makes sense to me that a vampire is a bomber, because it bombs jmps back to its core (unless it scans and then bombs) [11:42] sf, I understand that but I need a general term (that != scanner) to describe the class [11:42] vampires and scanners are two different types of warriors in the scissors category [11:42] datagram: The sto/pap/sca is a quite old analogy and cw has developed a lot since then [11:43] Well, because people blend types, but it still makes sense [11:43] But there are papers, that can be beaten by stones [11:43] Not my stone :'((( [11:43] Hehe [11:44] You should present is a basic concept, which no longer holds true [11:44] The top of the slide does say " A very basic look at strategy" [11:44] : P [11:44] Then forget about all the "special" cases [11:45] Heh, it's just that I'm not a huge fan of scanners. It's not fair to vampires, who are awesome, to be labeled scanners. [11:45] I got a windows box with Office up just to make this presentation : P [11:45] How about issue new labels. Every scanner is called from now on "foo", every stone "bar", ... [11:46] It has a neat little grid scheme that I'm using [11:47] Are there any windows mars emulators that you can make full screen, with bigger core dots? [11:47] I see in corewin you can do it...but only if you reduce the size of the core [11:48] How about using a program to scale the image? [11:48] But I will be doing a live demo [11:51] pmarses will do fullscreen just nicely.. [11:53] But can you increase the display size? Even fullscreen the dots are very small [11:54] I dont think so.. [11:54] You could use older version of pmars [11:55] http://koti.mbnet.fi/mizcu/difference.png <- i use 085 Pmars on Dos and it looks like that [11:55] (well, dos-pmars on windows but thats not the points) [12:03] For -v what do the 2nd and 3rd parameters do? [12:03] dont know really [12:03] i just always use -v x03 [12:08] The last is "Display level" [12:08] Join: brx joined #corewars [12:08] . [12:09] hello. [12:09] what command did I need to use to invoke optimars properly? [12:09] Hi Brx [12:09] Mizcu It seems to change the detail of the dots in pmars [12:10] hey sf, what's new? [12:11] And the second digit changes the orientation of the window [12:11] With me? Nothing :( [12:11] But I am entering the new tournament [12:12] Haha, x6x looks funny [12:12] Did everyone read my post about the tournament? [12:12] I think some people go the wrong idea about what it is, unless I'm an idiot (which is probable) [12:13] Yours is the fourth post explaining what single elim means right? [12:13] MSG: Quit: Bersirc 2.2: Looks, feels and sounds (?!) different! [ http://www.bersirc.org/ - Open Source IRC ] [12:14] Yes [12:14] Err [12:14] Mizcu, True -v 063, it looks funny [12:15] try* not True [12:16] MSG: Ping timeout: 252 seconds [12:18] Join: brx joined #corewars [12:19] . [12:19] brx, you have too much RF : ) [12:20] Did you build that cantenna? [12:21] not yet [12:21] . [12:21] . [12:21] . [12:23] I hate this :) [12:23] . [12:23] . [12:23] . [12:28] We're still here [12:28] Stay strong, brx : ) [12:29] sigh. [12:30] I am gonna goto bed [12:30] still trying to access gougle groups :) [12:30] Heh [12:30] Which do you need to see? 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[14:39] bleh, aint working [14:39] why not? :) [14:39] Well, you need to be a Finn to understand it perfectly anyway [14:39] Join: Metcalf joined #corewars [14:39] Hi [14:39] hi Met [14:40] Join: Roy joined #corewars [14:40] Hi Roy [14:41] it'll just take a few hours [14:41] hi metc [14:41] hi asw/brx/caesar/datagram/fiveop/johnwk/log_guy/martin/Metcalf/Mizcu [14:41] hi [14:41] (Jens forbid me to say a lame: "hi all") [14:41] Roy [14:42] Roy: what about "Hi folks", "Hi peeps", or 'ullo! ? [14:43] * Roy is writing down the alternatives [14:44] MSG: Quit: Chatzilla 0.9.68.5 [Firefox 1.0.6/20050717] [14:46] * brx has a styling top knot [14:46] I look like a yakuza [14:47] :-\ [14:47] * Roy has spikes as always [14:47] I have uncharacteric short hair at the moment [14:48] My girlfriends hair is in the catagory "sheephair" [14:48] * Roy gets hit [14:48] I think you should be hit several times for a comment like that Roy [14:49] Hey, Roy's girlfriend are you there now? [14:49] Please give Roy a couple of extra hits from me! [14:49] We'll she IS my girlfriend, so I like it (for some odd reason) [14:49] He know's what they are for! :-) [14:50] you get fiveop's hair if you put a soup plate on top of your head and cut at its edges [14:50] * brx grins [14:50] Good thing she doesn't listen to strangers [14:51] gotta go now [14:51] (time to call ambulance) [14:51] MSG: [14:51] me too [14:51] laters [14:52] * Metcalf waves too late [15:23] I'm off home to work on the Who's Who [15:23] * Metcalf waves [15:23] MSG: Quit: mov.i [15:59] Join: elkauka joined #corewars [15:59] hi [16:11] Part: elkauka left #corewars [16:43] Join: Jens joined #corewars [16:44] :) [16:49] MSG: Ping timeout: 252 seconds [17:18] Part: Jens left #corewars [17:33] MSG: Ping timeout: 252 seconds [17:35] Join: brx joined #corewars [17:48] Join: Fizmo joined #corewars [17:48] hi [17:48] hi Fiz [17:48] hi Miz [17:49] are you plan on attend on the single elimination championship? [17:49] I even might [17:50] A thought just came to my head.. [17:50] Which one do you think would be more efficient in S/P? [17:50] S P S P S P S P [17:50] SSSSSPPPPP [17:51] this is speaking about the processes allocation [17:54] hmm, difficult [17:54] I would start the stone first [17:55] otherwise it would be too slow compared to the paper [17:55] so, sssssppppp would be better [17:58] MSG: Ping timeout: 252 seconds [18:23] Join: brx joined #corewars [18:26] be back soon [18:26] MSG: [18:35] Join: Fizmo joined #corewars [18:35] Join: elkauka joined #corewars [18:35] hi [18:35] MSG: Ping timeout: 252 seconds [18:38] hi [18:43] Join: brx joined #corewars [18:45] Join: Nenad joined #corewars [18:45] Hi [18:46] hi [18:47] * Nenad goes to check the logs [18:48] MSG: Ping timeout: 252 seconds [18:49] Fizmo: how many confirmations do you have so far? [18:50] Join: brx joined #corewars [18:51] Roy: (when you read the logs) we should meet here tomorrow night to finish CoreExplorer and post it to r.g.c. [18:53] coreexplorer? [18:53] the beginner magazine [18:54] i c [18:55] MSG: Ping timeout: 252 seconds [18:57] * Fizmo is still working on the tournament pages [18:57] well, I just came here for a short visit... I think I'll go now. Make sure you come tomorrow for an irct! 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[20:32] MSG: Ping timeout: 252 seconds [20:36] Join: Fizmo joined #corewars [20:36] hi [20:36] el kauka: got your e-mail [20:37] ok [20:38] please change: 2nd place mc#6 to - 2nd place mc#6 third run [20:41] ok [20:54] Join: brx joined #corewars [20:55] hello again, [20:55] wb [21:00] hi brx [21:00] MSG: Ping timeout: 252 seconds [21:19] Join: Roy joined #corewars [21:19] Nenad (for the logs:) Tomorrow is ok! [21:19] And for the other log-people, go to the ICC2006 website and click the google ads ;-) I want to see if AdSense actualy works and pays!! [21:20] btw: Hi fellows! [21:21] hi Roy [21:21] I'll have a look ;-) [21:21] Hi fizmo, hows life? any new warriors comming? [21:21] Did you saw my announcement? [21:21] Yes, count me in, not much time now to email [21:22] no new warriors. Still working on the tournament sites [21:22] ok, I'll do [21:22] Ah, I'm very proud of the scanner Nenad and I made, now I want to see what happens the next couple of challenges [21:23] (So I'm hoping for new warriors) [21:24] Well, I'll work on a new warrior soon then ;-) [21:24] Ok, I'm off again, very curious about the tournament (I had the same idea for ICC, in real life its probebly even more fun!) [21:25] * Roy waves [21:25] MSG: [21:31] datagram: still there? [21:46] Join: asw joined #corewars [21:51] MSG: Ping timeout: 252 seconds [21:52] Join: asw joined #corewars [21:56] MSG: Quit: humhum [22:24] MSG: [22:52] Part: elkauka left #corewars