[00:06] Part: Core29_ left #corewars [00:19] MSG: Quit: Leaving [00:19] Join: asw joined #corewars [00:21] MSG: Client Quit [00:21] Join: asw joined #corewars [01:44] Join: brx_ joined #corewars [01:46] MSG: Ping timeout: 252 seconds [04:05] MSG: Ping timeout: 252 seconds [04:05] Join: brx joined #corewars [04:35] MSG: Ping timeout: 252 seconds [04:36] Join: brx joined #corewars [04:57] MSG: Ping timeout: 252 seconds [05:02] Join: brx joined #corewars [05:27] I'm actually doing good with optimizing my warrior lol [05:27] I got +6 pts! woot! [05:48] MSG: Ping timeout: 252 seconds [05:48] Join: brx joined #corewars [05:52] Join: fiveop joined #corewars [06:00] MSG: Ping timeout: 252 seconds [06:01] Join: brx joined #corewars [06:18] MSG: Ping timeout: 252 seconds [06:19] Join: brx joined #corewars [06:56] Join: fiveop_ joined #corewars [06:59] MSG: Ping timeout: 252 seconds [07:02] MSG: Ping timeout: 252 seconds [07:04] Join: brx joined #corewars [07:09] MSG: Ping timeout: 252 seconds [07:10] Join: brx joined #corewars [07:14] MSG: Read error: Operation timed out [07:15] Join: brx joined #corewars [07:31] MSG: Ping timeout: 252 seconds [07:31] Join: brx joined #corewars [08:33] Why does optimax hate me [09:16] MSG: Ping timeout: 252 seconds [10:29] Join: michal joined #corewars [10:45] Join: Roy joined #corewars [10:46] Hey Roy & michal [10:46] Roy, Apparently I'm retarded because I can't get optimax to work [10:47] Hi data [10:47] What is wrong with it? (error?) [10:47] Do you have perl installed etc..? [10:49] Yeah one sec [10:49] I'll get the error [10:50] The steps are easy, just make a warrior, with some variables filled by optimax, and then run optimax :-) (perl optimax.pl -o warrior.red) [10:50] It tries to divide by 0 [10:50] Give it a second to get there [10:50] I am going ./opti06.pl -o warrior.red, but yes [10:50] doing* [10:51] well thats ok.. and what are the ;optimax settings in the warrior? [11:22] MSG: Quit: Download Gaim: http://gaim.sourceforge.net/ [11:22] Join: michal joined #corewars [11:46] MSG: Remote host closed the connection [11:47] Join: datagram joined #corewars [11:57] MSG: [12:04] Join: Core29 joined #corewars [12:29] Join: caesar joined #corewars [12:30] hello [12:46] Part: michal left #corewars [12:49] Join: michal joined #corewars [13:01] Join: Mizcu joined #corewars [13:52] MSG: Ping timeout: 252 seconds [13:58] Join: caesar joined #corewars [14:17] Join: grirgz joined #corewars [14:17] hi [14:17] hi grirgz [14:17] hi? [14:18] so, what brings you here, gri? [14:21] i want to learn redcode :) [14:22] Well thats good :) [14:22] You've found the tutorial-section at corewar.info yet? [14:24] i dont know this site [14:24] www.corewar.info - place for most of your corewar-needs [14:24] sorry i dont speak english very well, i am french :p [14:25] not a problem, many of us dont speak english for first language [14:26] wooo! [14:26] i am seeking for the best redcode simulator under unix [14:27] Pmars [14:27] french! [14:28] caesar: what ? [14:28] grirgz: http://sourceforge.net/projects/corewar [14:28] i frm china. [14:29] ok :) [14:29] so i dont use english better too. [14:29] redcode is some hard for me [14:33] grirgz: but for any questions about redcode and corewars, just ask here and we will answer. [14:34] Also notice, that all discussions here are logged in www.koth.org/irc-logs/ , so be careful about pasting e-mail addresses. [14:34] Join: Roy joined #corewars [14:34] hi Roy [14:34] And I read the logs > here to encourage you to learn redcode ;-) [14:35] Hi gri/caes/miz [14:35] hi,roy [14:35] grirgz: There are some other french players, Lachi is french if I remember correctly [14:36] Ohw he's italian sorry [14:38] There are no French players currently, last one was Pascal.H bit under a year ago [14:38] mizcu,what's the first one chinese player? [14:38] caesar: you are the first one i have heard of [14:38] his name is caesar I think ;-) [14:39] ok.it's great. [14:39] i have to gone now,bye. [14:39] http://www.vis.uni-stuttgart.de/roettger/ <- The author of XTC :-) [14:40] Part: caesar left #corewars [14:45] grirgz: Maybe you could help us out a little bit :) [14:46] We found a french website about a 3d corewar(-ish) game, but we don't really know how it works [14:46] Its found here: http://www.epitech.net/v3/article-projets-142-corewar.html [14:51] Join: Fizmo joined #corewars [14:51] hi [14:51] hi fizzer, how many entries so far..? :) [14:52] have you send yours already? :) [14:52] 6 [14:52] and my yahoo account disappeared :-( [14:52] I've to write mine now ... hadn't got any time this week [14:53] * Roy send his entry yesterday [14:53] Nick Change: fiveop_ changed nick to fiveop [14:53] my nasty little paper will kill all of you! [14:53] Roy: so youre sending a stone? [14:53] :P [14:53] Heh, that would be too obvious [14:54] I goota go now, but back soon [14:54] laterz [14:54] * Roy waves [14:54] MSG: Client Quit [14:54] anyone has spare benchmarks? :) [14:57] Join: Nenad joined #corewars [14:57] Hi [14:58] Hi nenad [14:58] I see that 94nop is aging by that jtest warriors .. nice :) [15:07] Yup, but it isn't scoring so well [15:08] looks like a oneshot from scores against my warriors [15:08] I haven't bothered to look at the whole table of scores yet [15:10] blah, still not above 142 on my benchmark >:( [15:10] heh. [15:11] you are in a tough group [15:12] besides, it all depends... if your benchmark is not really big - 30-40 warriors, at least, it won't give you much info about how good your warrior is [15:12] and I guess that your bench is smaller [15:13] so don't worry about it [15:14] heh, my benchmark sucks bigtime, my best warrior scores 228 points :-) [15:15] lol [15:15] really? [15:15] that's one bad bench then... [15:15] is the benchmark optimized? a little? [15:15] Nope, thats unoptimized 8000 and tiny warriors [15:16] But my other very small specialist bench is 8 warriors big only... and there I score around 160 [15:16] (161,9) [15:16] nice... [15:16] But those where all optimized [15:20] But there is a big change I might not be first [15:21] ? [15:21] It might have some serious problems against some warriors, depends on the type of enemy [15:21] (but that is probably the same for everybody) [15:22] yup [15:25] i found different instruction sets, is "move, jump, data, etc" the old standard ? [15:26] ... not used anymore, that's for sure [15:27] I've made a couple of '88 warriors, but used also mov, jmp, etc [15:28] Join: brx_ joined #corewars [15:28] hi brx [15:28] hullo. [15:28] Nick Change: brx_ changed nick to brx [15:29] brb [15:30] grirgz: it was made as different version of corewars, we have never used it, because it was too simplified. [15:37] MSG: Ping timeout: 252 seconds [15:38] Join: brx joined #corewars [15:42] MSG: Ping timeout: 252 seconds [15:49] Join: brx joined #corewars [15:49] re :) [15:50] MSG: [15:51] brx: what are your predictions? [15:51] to the ranking in our group.. do you think you might qualify with your entry? [15:54] MSG: Ping timeout: 252 seconds [15:56] is pmars anymore developped ? [15:56] Not really, since its as good as needed [15:57] There are faster programs that do the same thing, but they are not graphical [15:57] i would be great if they made a .deb package :p [15:58] and an option to choose curses or X at runtime [16:02] Join: Neogryzor joined #corewars [16:02] ñ [16:04] what's up? [16:04] HI Neo [16:05] did you send your warrior to Fizmo? [16:05] Join: brx joined #corewars [16:06] i'm going to send it right now [16:06] I just did :) [16:06] hi brx [16:06] 17:52 I don't think I am going to qualify [16:06] 17:53 I have sent it in yesterday. some cannonfodder for you guys :) [16:06] ? [16:06] hi neo [16:07] oh. [16:07] Nenad: what do you think? :) [16:07] about what? [16:07] 17:52 < Nenad> to the ranking in our group.. do you think you might qualify with your entry? [16:07] well, I think that I might :) [16:08] Nick Change: brx changed nick to brx__ [16:08] MSG: Read error: Connection reset by peer [16:08] Nick Change: brx__ changed nick to brx [16:08] heh [16:08] Join: fiveop joined #corewars [16:08] my prognosis is : 1. Sascha 2. Nenad 3. Michal 4. sf 5. brx 6. X-man [16:08] Nenad: michal has a wonderful warrior name. if we had consulted each other we could have used a rather witty naming scheme [16:09] what is the name? [16:09] "ratatosk" [16:09] means something? [16:10] apparently that was the name of a squirrel running up and dow yggdrasil insulting an eagle and a dragon hoping that they would start a war [16:10] :) [16:10] michal liked the notion of "insulting squirrel" ;) [16:10] I like norse mythology when it comes to warrior names [16:10] well me too. I do not like valkyr names however. [16:11] "skogul", "raogrior" [16:11] I just use what comes to my mind [16:12] And too often affected by what song is currently playing on wiamp.. [16:12] :) me too [16:12] but not winamp [16:12] Nenad: i am rather interested in qualification results. I hope michal comes out first so that my final prognosis turns out to be correct ;) [16:12] that honor might help me get over my early dropout [16:13] Well, it's ok for you. you've got nothing to lose (in a sense of reputation) [16:13] * Neogryzor guesses "Disfunctinal dishwasher" is not the best name for my entry... [16:13] *disfunctional* [16:13] Nenad: that is no comfort to me actually ;) [16:14] Neogryzor: how do you predict the rankings in your group? [16:14] it is a pity this tournament is not sponsored. [16:15] when i saw this: http://www.koth.org/kofacoto/ I was quite surprised [16:15] i see Michal on top [16:15] -? it was sponsored [16:15] your group... [16:15] he is not in it [16:15] Neogryzor: me too. [16:15] but, you might be right... [16:16] on my group? not sure, i guess Metcalf will win. 2nd or 3rd would be okay for me [16:16] well, I think you have pretty good chances of 1st, too [16:16] Neogryzor: you don't have any fears of dropping? :) [16:17] datagram: what about you? [16:17] I just don't think of it. Do you want me to get nervious? [16:17] yes :) [16:17] Neogryzor: :) [16:18] but I'm more interested to see what happens in D [16:19] I will have a bear with D's dropout [16:19] and I am anxious to see if fiveop manages to qualify [16:20] C isn't clear... [16:20] I see Roy on top [16:20] but have no idea about the remaining places [16:20] I think lachi might make secod [16:20] +n [16:20] not sure about inversed and fiveop [16:20] I think Simon has better chances than LAchi [16:21] knowing what fiveop is going to send in I am kind of looking forward to the result [16:21] ? [16:21] is it good? [16:21] he told me. [16:21] he might make it. I am not entirely sure. [16:21] depending on the other entries [16:22] it is rather hard to make such a prognosis [16:22] I just got an veeery evil feeling upon realizing something.. [16:22] But cant write it here [16:22] evil? [16:23] Nenad: it is kind of hard to foretell what people like datagram, me, fiveop etc are going to send in. surprises are always possible. only 5-6 people. with a bit of luck anybody could get the topscore. [16:23] No, its not something that i can create a good warrior with, just something that i realized about this match [16:23] brx: I know. that's why I'm a little insecure [16:24] Mizcu: Do you have the feeling that you have selected the wrong strat? [16:24] even a dumb warrior can defeat a good one, depending on strategies [16:24] Neo: no. [16:24] Nenad: still if I had to guess I would say Michal, you, sascha sf, me, x-man in that order [16:24] * Neogryzor has that feeling [16:26] brx: so we disagree only about Sascha and Michal. Well, I wouldn't mind if you were right, either [16:26] you might try to poison sf, though [16:26] :) [16:26] :) [16:28] everybody cheer up! [16:28] [18:28:29] michalja: I decided not to use a benchmark [16:28] heh. Now I'm even more afraid [16:28] eh [16:28] because I know what his thoughts might be [16:28] haha [16:29] what they might be? :) [16:29] :) [16:29] I know it too [16:29] hehe [16:29] michal: you actually *told* me beforehand [16:29] and I have not forgotten [16:29] what did I tell you? [16:29] I can tell you in a query. [16:29] actually I won't [16:29] everyone is here is making fun of me :) [16:30] ;) [16:30] well, you'll make fun of us in the tournament, so we have to do it here :) [16:30] heh [16:30] I fear nenad is right [16:30] Join: Roy joined #corewars [16:31] I have to pass the qualification round :/ [16:31] welcome back, Roy [16:31] Dinner was good... :) [16:31] bone apetite [16:31] fiveop: this has been fun already. I don't mind dropping out now [16:33] Randry brx passes from the fear phase to the "don't care" phase [16:33] Join: Fizmo joined #corewars [16:33] Hi Fizmo [16:33] hi all [16:34] hi Fiz [16:34] nice :) many people here [16:34] 8 Entries so far [16:34] I have just sent mine [16:34] brx: did you sent your entry? [16:34] I didn't received it [16:34] Fizmo: yes! [16:34] Fizmo: you didn't get it? [16:34] ack! [16:34] can I paste it in irc?! [16:34] don't bother to resubmit :) [16:35] Fizmo: email address (something was wrong with your yahoo address you said)? [16:36] my yahoo account disappeard completely [16:36] :( [16:37] so would you query me a working address? [16:37] I don't know the reason, but I hope it wasn't hacked in any case [16:37] [16:37] please :) [16:37] thanks [16:37] yup [16:37] MSG: Ping timeout: 252 seconds [16:40] Fizmo: when will you run the fights? [16:40] saturday night? [16:40] or on sunday? [16:41] Join: Neutrino joined #corewars [16:41] Hi Neutrino [16:41] hi [16:41] you didn't apply for the tournament? [16:41] hi [16:42] I do some other things at the moment [16:42] no time for redcoding .. :-p [16:42] hi Neutrino [16:42] hi fizmo [16:42] brx [16:43] and brx [16:43] I mean [16:43] hi neutrino [16:43] Nenad: on sunday morning I'll let run the qualification round [16:44] when? [16:44] at what time? [16:44] calm down, Nenad [16:44] * Nenad won't be calm until he qualifies or drops out [16:45] btw, nice warrior at LP hill [16:45] I would like to know the time alsp! [16:45] Neo: thanks. [16:45] I think on noon I'll ready to post the results [16:46] whats happen with sourceforge hill? You will redirected to sal ... [16:46] I also post/upload on sunday morning the rules for the second round [16:48] * brx will be here, at noon. [16:48] you too nenad? [16:48] I guess [16:48] probably [16:50] I have to see how michals ultra-undefeatable warrior did [16:51] :P [16:52] MSG: Ping timeout: 252 seconds [16:53] Join: brx joined #corewars [16:53] re [16:53] Fizmo: did you include if (name == "John Metcalf"){ wins = 380 } ... no need to make your computer perform unnecessary fights [16:53] lol [16:55] just put his name as part of the warrior name to fear the opponent ;-) [16:55] :) [16:57] If we put "Fizmo" into the warrior name, would we get extra points? [16:57] no, you would get disqualified [16:57] because he isn't taking part [16:58] Neogryzor: try "brx" [16:58] :) [16:58] datagram might like that [16:59] brx: That would decrease the score :) [16:59] I really hope that I get from all player an entry [16:59] Neogryzor: nobody has faith in brx! [16:59] :( [16:59] Fizmo: is that guy in B taking part? [16:59] or did he give up? [17:00] seems, not. He didn't response anymore, so I wouldn't count him [17:01] is Neutrino taking part? [17:01] no :-/ [17:01] ... too bad... out of the last two players, there was a 50-50 chance that he ends in A... :( we've gotten sf instead [17:01] :/ [17:01] so, brx, you would surely qualify if it happened the other way around [17:02] Nenad: I know. compared to me, sf is god :P [17:02] sweet, better results from benchmark <3 [17:03] who wants to trade benchmarks with me? :) [17:03] "trade"? [17:03] what do you have to give in return? :P [17:03] desperate michal..? [17:04] My offer still stands, $2,- per warrior ;-) [17:04] * Neogryzor thinks A and D are probably the hardest groups. Though, there are not big differences [17:05] i sell and imp, only 1$! [17:05] michal: use dat 0, 0 and mov 0, 1 as a benchmark. you may even try a mov.i #1, *0! :) [17:05] Hullabaloo 3800, only $5,- (cheap!) [17:05] ... and don't forget jmp 0! [17:06] and a djn.f #1,<-10 [17:06] selling spl #0, <-10 / jmp #0, <-11 [17:06] privmsg with bids [17:07] okay first bid$3,99 [17:08] don't bother copy pasting it, it only works if you bought it.. [17:08] oh... a mysterious warrior at 94nop... [17:08] just a pathetic test.. [17:09] [17:09] oh [17:09] heh he would appriciate that in the log (not) [17:09] Join: grirgz joined #corewars [17:10] Roy: heh [17:10] "oups" [17:11] aren't addresses removed automatically from the logs? [17:11] no idea, log_guy? [17:11] yup they are [17:11] [17:09] [17:12] woo for techonology [17:12] [17:12] mov.i 1,@2 [17:13] intelligent logging. it does not remove redcode :) [17:13] mov src,@dest [17:14] hehe [17:14] mov src,@dest.ffff [17:14] with@no_comma [17:14] see the error@mov.i 10,@32 [17:14] are dost allowed in labels? :) [17:14] dots. [17:15] mov a,@b.com [17:15] ah, finally i did what i should've a long time ago [17:15] Mizcu: you are still alive, so i am not sure what you are talking about :) [17:15] Water the plants? Take a shower? [17:15] sry, that was evil. [17:15] i made my optimizer-loop be run constantly while dummy.txt exists [17:16] swith off the oven? [17:16] Now i can go buy some coke and know that 'puter will be crunching numbers all the time [17:25] heh. it suddenly became really quiet in here [17:25] 10 entries so far [17:27] and 11 more to go... [17:28] two groups needs just one entry to be complete [17:29] which groups? [17:29] A and B? [17:29] A and C..? [17:30] B and ..? [17:33] ..? [17:34] hm.. [17:34] deadline is tomorrow, right? [17:34] not today? :) [17:34] poor michal [17:34] he has some last-minute ass-whipping in store for A [17:36] okay, i have been spying michal, and now it is time to publish his stone/paper [17:36] :) [17:38] hrm.. [17:38] Nenad: Did you really write that in 4.7 mins? [17:39] yes [17:39] just an example in my future oneshot tutorial [17:39] completely? [17:39] yes [17:39] who has written what?! [17:39] A and C [17:40]