[00:07] Join: michal joined #corewars [00:08] MSG: Quit: GoodBye , My Friends... [00:27] Part: elkauka left #corewars [00:30] Join: datagram joined #corewars [01:06] Join: ZulNadzri joined #corewars [01:06] hi Zul [01:07] hi... just checking the final day preparation [01:07] see you later... [01:07] MSG: Client Quit [01:50] MSG: Quit: Leaving [02:12] MSG: [02:14] MSG: Quit: Connection reset by pheer [09:36] Join: Fluffy joined #corewars [09:37] :) [09:37] Fizmo: I know, that you read the logs: RESULTS! [09:46] Join: Roy joined #corewars [09:46] Topic Change: Roy sets topic: RESULTS - www.corewar.info - www.koth.org - corewar.co.uk - www.ociw.edu/~birk/COREWAR - corewar.atspace.com - RESULTS!! [09:46] Hi Fluffy/Enemy [09:47] :) [09:48] Good to have an enemy, who also wants results now :) [09:48] You know? Your not my enemy anymore, now its over, now we are partners-in-result-crime! [09:48] Your>You're [09:49] Why should it be over now? I haven't sent my warrior yet. [09:50] And you? Have you sent yours? [09:50] No?! Hrm, I thought the deadline was over :-) Ohw, its tonight at 9 heh [09:50] yes, 9pm CET :) [09:50] Hehe, you should have shut your mouth, I was almost telling what I send and asking what you send [09:51] That would be unfair [09:51] So yeah > I've send my warrior (made in under a hour :-() [09:51] Didn't have much time this week.. [09:52] I take that as a sign, that I really have a tiny chance to win [09:52] Not tiny, about 50/50, but thats a fact ;-) [09:52] It'll all depend on the choice of warrior.. [09:54] and the experience of the programmer ;-) [09:56] Maybe 0-10% experience [09:58] err ... 16 challenges to 94nop and no one made it onto the hill :( [09:58] There are 3 possibilities looking at the rock-paper-scissors, the first is you beat someone, the second is you loose, and the third is a tie... only in that case (33% chance) the strength of the warrior really counts [09:59] OK, then I'll send an imp and win ;-) [09:59] I'm curious about that total crap warrior :-) [10:00] It doesn't have a good qscan yet, with a qscan it would be very strong [10:00] No, its name isn't "total crap", but "No 3735928559" [10:01] Roy: I don't know, what a qscan is. Please explain ;-) [10:01] Fluffy, 'total crap' on the hill ;-) [10:02] The next warrior to be pushed of on the hill is either Halcyon or Solo4... both mine :( [10:03] Sure? After you've datted the hill? [10:03] Yup [10:03] Especialy after datted :( [10:04] Halcyon was very good on koenigstuhl, but not on the normal hill :-) [10:05] But at least Halcyon is now in the HoF [10:06] It is..? ohw, I thought it wasn't so old yet [10:08] And how I see, what you've meant with "total crap". He really should have added a qscan. Its score would be well above 150 then [10:08] *now [10:08] Hrm, well above 150 (don't know about that) [10:09] But it would have been top 5 [10:09] As far as I know a good qscan give about 10-12 points [10:09] *gives [10:09] Unoptimized and no qscan... its a new SoV ;-) [10:09] Of course you have to optimize your warrior together with the qscan [10:10] If he ever decides to add a qscan and optimize it, but will he do it? [10:13] Probably not, he should send it to me ;-) [10:17] Join: pak21 joined #corewars [10:19] Hi Phil [10:20] * Fluffy is away for a while [10:30] * Roy is away too, conquering worlds again [10:51] Join: datagram joined #corewars [10:56] Hello everyone [10:56] Hi Fluffy Roy [10:56] Hi bvowk [10:57] And pak21 ! Though I don't know who you are, all the other players are excited to see you, so you must be core-famous : ) [10:59] Join: fiveop joined #corewars [10:59] hi [11:00] Hey fiveop [11:02] Does anybody know a way to create 256 different colors, that are visually maximal apart from each other? [11:04] Explain "visually maximal apart from each other" [11:04] You mean 256 very dis-similar colors? [11:05] yes [11:06] I could sit down and do it myself, but maybe there is an easy method to create them [11:10] Fluffy: think of colors as elements from [0,1]x[0,1]x[0,1] and because green is the most significant color (for our eyes) you could spread them, so that you have a 4*4*8 grid (8 in green direction) [11:12] hmm [11:13] hm? [11:14] hmm = I'll try that and see what it will look like [11:14] wasn't that clear? [11:14] ;-) [11:53] tell me how it 'looks' like, so I don't even now yet, why you need 256 different colors :) [11:54] For displaying 256 different warriors in a multiwarrior fight. [11:55] with your mars? [11:55] yup [11:55] Be sure to order the way those colors are distrubuted, not that you have 2 very silimair randomly selected colors when you fight two :-) [11:56] Will do that :) [11:57] At the moment I've abandoned the idea of having one MARS for debugging warriors and one for benchmarking. I still can't find the bug in the benchmark-version. [11:57] But at least I could speed up the debug-version. It is now about 8000 insns/sec, which should be more than enough for debugging [11:58] Fizmo: http://tinyurl.com/cq6o5 [11:58] For debugging > not for playing ;-) [11:58] Roy: Nice idea [12:00] Roy: hehe [12:01] Still don't know where to set the max. coresize. 1000x1000=10**6 should be enough, shouldn't it? [12:01] why do you need a max coresize? [12:02] I could use MAXINT as a limit, but then I don't know how to display it properly [12:02] ah [12:08] MSG: [12:34] Join: Fizmo joined #corewars [12:34] hi [12:34] RESULTS!!! [12:34] err ... hi Fizmo [12:34] heh, you're too early with that [12:35] hi Jens [12:35] At least one match is ready :-P [12:35] Fizmo, Working on mine atm [12:35] I have many hours to submit, right? [12:35] yes, you have [12:35] it was just a kind of reminder [12:36] Alright good [12:36] last round one player nearly forgot the deadline, while one missed the deadline by one day [12:36] You worried me that my interpretation of your time zone was screwed up [12:36] No I know what it is, I use a world clock online [12:36] I just check Berlin time [12:36] (which I figure is close enough) [12:37] ;-) [12:37] Right? [12:37] Or are you +1 -1 hour from Berlin? [12:37] yep [12:37] I am sitting right in the south of Berlin [12:37] Awesome [12:38] Never been to Germany [12:38] One day, yesh? [12:38] I'm going up to Canada during the holidays though [12:38] Well, I was just once in USA. One week business trip to Orlando [12:38] Again I suggest to to include that little country US of A into the EU and declare CET/CEST as the official time [12:39] Any supporters out there? [12:39] ;) [12:39] lol [12:39] *shrug* [12:39] I know all the time zones of others, so it doesn [12:39] 't bother me [12:42] ok, I have to leave now. Be back later [12:42] MSG: [12:42] Fizmo: bye and remeber the results :) [12:42] grrr .. too late [12:53] hm [12:57] I hate this give/taken crap [12:57] Because I always get confused it the W L T is MY score or what THEY scored against me [12:57] Drives me nuts [13:00] hehe [13:00] Is there a standard way of displaying it? [13:00] Like when I look at my score and it lists all my opponents is win always how well they did against ME? [13:00] Always? [13:02] not in brx koth.pl script ;) [13:03] * datagram shoots myself [13:04] inversed: Congrats! You have won! datagram is dead ;-) [13:05] He can probably beat me if HE is dead [13:05] :'( [13:06] Noticing the Microsoft threat to withdraw Windows from South Korea, the Linspire CEO, Kevin Carmony, just offered to license every computer in the country with Linspire, for just $5m. This would be around 10 cents / person [13:06] Hah!!! [13:07] Join: Roy joined #corewars [13:08] BEWARE! THE ENEMY IS HERE! [13:08] ;-) [13:09] * Roy ducks [13:09] WHERE!? [13:09] just inside you ;0 [13:09] Roy: Try to hit him ;-) [13:09] Aaahhh!! (does scene from Alien) [13:10] Yippie ... I've won, Roy is dead, too ;-) [13:10] :P [13:10] Roy: Or is your second name Ripley? [13:10] surely ... [13:11] But she is killed in part three, too. At least there is hope then [13:11] Roy Ripley van Rijn, yeap [13:11] Hi Roy [13:11] No hope for you Fluf, that means I'll be knocked out in R3 [13:12] (then I have to beat you first) [13:12] I also noticed that problem [13:12] hmm [13:12] Roy: next round you'll fight elkauka I guess ... haven't seen brx for days [13:12] How about your second name being "Bishop"? He dies in every part :) [13:12] or Fluffy of course! :) [13:13] I talked to brx the other day [13:13] oh [13:13] He should submit something, at least [13:13] I cannot say who will win that matchup though [13:13] Very even, to me [13:13] so perhaps one of you'll fight brx instead of elkauka [13:14] We'll see.. [13:14] Let's simply assume, that I will win this tournament. It would make things easier for me [13:14] ;-) [13:14] First let us annoy Fizmo this round.. RESULTS!! [13:14] We should change the topic then accordingly. [13:14] humhum [13:14] Any suggestions? [13:14] hm [13:15] how about: Results!!!!!1111elevenoneone [13:15] why "1111elevenoneone"? [13:16] lol [13:16] !!111!1111 (11 == eleven, 1 == one) [13:16] (People tend to forgot a couple of shifts) [13:17] * Fluffy switches to "stupid mode" [13:17] Can someone please explain that [13:17] I just did.. [13:18] * Fluffy switches to "extremely stupid mode" [13:18] ... [13:18] People do !!!!11!!!1!!!1 [13:18] How about being a little bit more verbose about that [13:18] When most people say: "!!!!!!!!!" quickly they forget to push the shift thus: "!!111!!" [13:18] eleven = joke about 1's [13:18] ahhh [13:18] ! == shift+1 [13:18] AHHHH [13:18] ;) [13:18] 1 == ! - shift :P [13:18] because typing eleven, people do to be stupid [13:19] * Roy thinks this is the right time for Fluffy to send his warrior [13:19] Despite my recent enlightment about "!!111..." I'll stay a while in "extemely stupid mode" ... just to be sure [13:19] Roy: have you sent your's? [13:19] Yup, yesterday.. [13:20] so [13:20] Fizmo ... Results!! :P [13:20] Roy: Fortunately I've sent it before switching into "stupid mode" [13:20] Too bad... then its back to a 50/50 again :) [13:20] :P [13:20] The name will make the decission [13:21] "No 3735928559" ... let's see whether you can beat that [13:22] hehe [13:22] Thats easy ;-) [13:22] Some minutes ago I've tested my warrior against wilfiz ... 165 points [13:22] I'll beat that using my ultimate cassette tape power! [13:23] http://hanazuc02.ld.infoseek.co.jp/cassettes/cassettes.htm [13:23] unfortunatly I've forgotten to change the -p in my options file back to 8000 ;) [13:24] Roy: ... and I thought, that playing cw is already very frivolous [13:28] Roy: what kind of warrior did you sent? [13:29] What do you think? :) [13:29] scanner? [13:29] Nope.. [13:29] stone/imp? [13:29] No... [13:29] stone? [13:29] No [13:29] paper? [13:29] No, not even a paper [13:30] imp-spiral? [13:30] no, no spiral [13:30] clear? [13:30] no [13:30] clear/imp? [13:30] Nah... [13:30] What did you send..? [13:30] stone/clear/imp? [13:30] No Fluf [13:31] OK, I've sent my warrior and you yours, right? [13:31] Yup [13:31] ok, I take that as granted [13:31] Fizmo: We are not going to change our warriors, don't allow us to change it! [13:32] Mine is a qscan->clear/stone [13:32] I send a scan/paper/stone/clear/imp [13:32] a what? [13:32] (never guessed that didn't ya!) [13:32] how did you do that? [13:32] all running the same time? [13:32] Just paste some warriors together...! [13:33] hmm [13:33] Yeah, well, a qscan->paper/imp/stone/clear [13:33] Lp paper/stone/SD clear/imp spiral [13:33] No idea how/if it works, but its worth trying :-) [13:34] I've tried to "optimize" my warrior against everything, but papers [13:34] You made a stone/clear/imp? (or no imp?) [13:34] no imp [13:35] Will be pretty close I guess..., I think yours will win the 8kp part, and mine the 20-50p part.. [13:35] At first I was thinking about submitting only a little stone. [13:36] Of course it scored very well against scanners under both settings, but then I thought it to be too risky [13:36] Unfortunately with imps it didn't work very well [13:37] So I've taken a clear and placed the stone inside the area, that isn't touched by the clear [13:38] I had the same thing, I started out with Eccentric, which does well in both 8000 and 20-50 [13:38] (due to the clear and stone) [13:38] The SD clear also killed some LP papers and normal papers, so that was safe too [13:38] I'll sent it how to the tourney hill ... let's what happens .. probably it will be crushed [13:39] But in the small core stones still crushed me, so I added a single process to a LP-paper [13:39] That helped a lot against stones in the limited process bit, and in the 8000p it doesn't really matter [13:40] If you warrior has so many components, it is probably ver susceptable to qscans [13:43] RESULTS [13:44] hmm ... a scoer of 89.6 on 94t [13:45] *score [13:45] I'll send mine too [13:45] and then I'm off.. [13:48] It seems to take ages before the result is displayed on SAL [13:49] Yeah.. [13:49] But thats good, I can use that time to pack my sportbag and tape my finger [13:50] 124.1.. [13:50] I'm doomed [13:51] That doesn't say anything about the 20-50 size.. [13:51] Join: fiveop_ joined #corewars [13:51] I'm still doomed [13:52] Heh [13:52] It doesnt matter though [13:52] Because the scores are based off of who you beat on the hill [13:52] Not each other [13:52] Because he scored higher versus the hill doesn't necessarily mean that he will score higher against YOU [13:52] But still he's doomed, I haven't revealed my biggest power, the name! [13:53] hahah [13:53] I'm DOOMED [13:53] I named my warrior "Human" [13:53] Ok I'm off, ciao :-) [13:53] * Fluffy waves [13:53] If anyone gets the reference please let me know [13:53] Sleep well tonight flufis ;-) [13:53] MSG: [13:54] MSG: Ping timeout: 252 seconds [14:11] Join: sf joined #corewars [14:11] Hi [14:11] results? Isn't the deadline today? [14:11] Yes, in less than 6 hours [14:12] Hi sf [14:12] Have many people written their entries yet? [14:12] don't know [14:12] I've sent mine today, and you? [14:13] I am having problems. Mizcu usually writes stone/imps and I'm having trouble beating them :-( [14:14] I usually write papers, but haven't done so this time [14:14] I've got a reminder email! [14:14] I think, everybody did get it [14:15] Has Roy sent his entry, otherwise you should say that here [14:15] Roy said, the has and I trust him [14:15] but I'm doomed anyway [14:16] I've already revealed almost everything about my warrior, but the real code [14:16] Were those submissions to the 94t hill your entries? (You and Roy) [14:16] yes [14:16] Oh? In the logs? [14:17] yes [14:17] * sf goes to check [14:17] Don't bother ... I'm doomed [14:17] :-( [14:17] Do you want to test it against mine? [14:17] why not [14:18] Okay, I'll email it to you. Please keep all details to yourself! [14:18] of course [14:19] I won't even thell you ;-) [14:19] *tell [14:19] No, please tell me the results [14:19] In a /msg just in case anyone can figure something from the results [14:20] OK, is that your final decision? You've said to keep the results for myself ;-) [14:20] (only kidding) [14:20] I haven't emailed it yet, I hope you're agreeing to share! [14:20] You can count on it [14:32] * Fluffy is away for a while [14:46] ups [14:47] Hi Fiveop [14:47] had sent my entry with 8192er steps comented and 8000er steps in ... :) [14:47] Nick Change: fiveop_ changed nick to fiveop [14:47] steps? [14:47] More than one step :-) [14:47] scan/stone/paper/imp/boot/whatever steps ;) [14:47] You're giving away details fiveop [14:48] not too much [14:48] scan & stone normally one step, paper steps wouldn't matter much from one coresize to another [14:49] It's an imp! [14:51] without anything other of course! [14:56] Does anyone have inversed's email? [14:58] look at rgc [15:12] MSG: Quit: I don't like you. But Bersirc 2.2 does. Try it out now. [ http://www.bersirc.org/ - Open Source IRC ] [15:33] Join: Fizmo joined #corewars [15:33] hi [15:33] RESULTS! [15:33] :) [15:33] lol [15:33] Well, three matches are done [15:33] Did you get my entry? [15:33] yep [15:33] and Roy's, too? [15:33] yep [15:34] Then: RESULTS [15:34] !!! [15:34] I know, that I'm doomed, but now I want confirmation ;-) [15:35] Well [15:35] yes [15:35] RESULTS!! [15:35] You think Roy would agree to post your results here? [15:36] Look and the logs, he wants results, too [15:36] Did inversed submit his? [15:36] I will be done soon [15:36] He has already changed the topic [15:36] that means with the results the deadline is over for you [15:36] 12:58 < Roy> Fizmo: http://tinyurl.com/cq6o5 [15:36] lol [15:37] ok [15:37] We've already talked about our warriors here so the deadline is already over for both of us [15:37] Fizmo: they've already told each other what they've send in ... ;) [15:37] heh, and what is your feeling, Jens? [15:37] I'M DOOMED. [15:38] I think, that it describes it very well ;-) [15:38] Fizmo: have you got my second email? [15:38] Fizmo: And? [15:38] fiveop:yes I got it [15:39] phew ;) [15:39] ok here is the result for the match Jens vs. Roy [15:39] it was quite close match, but in the end there was a clear victory [15:39] grr [15:40] Battle SR2 Result [15:40] Jens Gutzeit 233.30 [15:40] Roy van Rijn 285.80 [15:40] datagram: Yes inversed already sent his entry [15:40] Fizmo: Are you sure and have not switched the results (or sth. similar) ;-) [15:41] Roy: Congrats :-) [15:41] no. The scores were quite similar for both matches [15:41] And I lost both of them [15:41] Roy scores in both slightly more [15:42] But here is another result from the Second Chance Event [15:42] for the what? [15:42] Nenad Tomasev vs. John K. Lewis: [15:43] It was a more clear victory [15:43] Battle SR8 Result [15:43] Nenad Tomasev 493.80 [15:43] John K. Lewis 81.60 [15:44] uff ... [15:45] hope that Metcalf doesn't crush me like this :/ [15:48] * Fluffy limps into a corner and cries for a while ... [15:59] Fizmo, About to send in my entry [15:59] I think I actually made it worse, lol [15:59] Well, then I'll immediately run the match against inversed [15:59] that will save time for tomorrow [16:04] Sent [16:04] * datagram hopes he doesn't get owned too bad [16:04] Maybe some random victory or something will work [16:04] Fizmo, I didn't leave you a description or player forecast or anything [16:04] I figure I know I will lose unless inversed didn't submit anything [16:04] And he did......so bad news for me this is. [16:04] For my fans: ( Fluffy <_< >_>) I tried to write a stone/imp/partial clear [16:04] Depending on the LP settings.......I might get owned [16:04] With a super optimized cool qscan, though [16:04] So that makes me semi happy [16:05] But I got imps right [16:05] And qscans [16:05] That's good enough to lose [16:14] ok, match is done, still add the results to my offline site for tomorrow [16:15] Join: Mizcu joined #corewars [16:15] Part: Fluffy left #corewars [16:17] hi Miz [16:21] hi Fiz [16:27] still in progress with your entry? [16:27] Just rose from the bed [16:28] So yes [16:30] :) [16:36] :) [16:37] Night night [16:37] * Fizmo waves [16:41] * fiveop waves [16:42] when's the deadline? [16:42] in 3 hours [16:42] hmhm [16:43] I have to go now. Be back later the evening. [16:43] * Fizmo waves [16:44] * fiveop waves [16:44] MSG: [17:17] MSG: Ping timeout: 252 seconds [17:17] Join: datagram joined #corewars [17:34] Join: Metcalf joined #corewars [17:34] Hi [17:34] h Met [17:34] hi [17:35] Just reading the logs [17:37] How long until the deadline? [17:38] Is it just over 2 hours? [17:39] y [17:39] Has you all sent entries? [18:03] Join: elkauka joined #corewars [18:03] hi [18:03] Hi Elkauka [18:05] sending my entry to fizzer [18:05] I've just sent mine, and I'm not very confident [18:06] It has too many weaknesses [18:07] Join: Core29 joined #corewars [18:08] Metcalf: Don't worry ;) [18:08] Hi [18:08] Have you sent your entry yet fiveop? [18:08] yes [18:08] Hmmm... do you want to exchange ;strategy lines? [18:09] If we do of course, it wouldn't be fair to send a replacement warrior [18:09] ? [18:09] * elkauka should read the logs first... [18:12] he, my fight with brx is the first in the list - maybe i get the results already this afternoon [18:15] hrm [18:15] Hi Bvowk. [18:15] how's it going met? [18:15] 152K round-robin, do you have results yet? :-) [18:15] no.. [18:16] scoring will be done here in half an hour or so [18:16] :-) [18:16] ran into some problems with the taskdb that slowed me up a little bit.. [18:18] I crashed the database box out while doing some debugging on another program.. and the database of unreturned tasks fell out of synch slightly with the actual outstanding tasks.. [18:18] so it couldn't find about 20 of them... [18:19] :-( [18:19] so I had to make a quick run through the returned log and synch the databases all up [18:19] oh well, these are the dangers of running -RC software right? :) [18:20] (I really wanted that extra 30MB/s of disk) [18:27] what about you met.. [18:27] what are you up to today? [18:27] Just made my round 2 entry [18:28] I was working most of the day :-( [18:28] that sucks [18:37] aw, i want to go back to berlin. you could shop atleast milk 24/7. the shop closed 6p.m today! thats gonna be a lousy breakfast tomorow [18:38] :-( [18:38] where are you elk? [18:38] i moved to magdeburg (200km away from berlin) to study computer science there [18:39] Join: Fizmo joined #corewars [18:39] hi fizzer [18:39] Hi Christian [18:39] hi all [18:39] Did you receive my entry? [18:39] Are you still waiting for any? [18:39] and mine? [18:39] still checking [18:40] 4 matches are already done [18:40] results!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! [18:40] ok met.. [18:40] 3 more entries received: JM, elkauka, Miz [18:40] starting the post processing.. [18:41] Post processing will take 2 days right? [18:41] thats what I'm guessing.. [18:41] Can you see which is the best already? Why not try it on the nano hill? [18:42] no.. right now I've got a ~50GB log of a bunch of compressed packets.. [18:43] postprocessing will take each of those packets, read the 500k or so battles out of them, and stick them into a huge score matrix.. [18:51] Any results ready? :-) [18:52] yep [18:52] Roy van Rijn vs. Jens Gutzeit [18:53] Jens Gutzeit 233.30 [18:53] Roy van Rijn 285.80 [18:55] So, elkauka or brx goes on to fight Roy. [19:00] Join: sascha joined #corewars [19:00] hi maniacs ! [19:01] short jump in... [19:01] Hi Sascha!!! [19:01] Hi, i'm just preparibng my< entry for sending... [19:01] but i need a name..... [19:01] lol [19:01] that's for sure the hardest part [19:02] It's Guy Fawke's Night here, name it after a firework or something [19:07] Join: Fluffy joined #corewars [19:07] :) [19:08] Hi Jens [19:08] Metcalf: Got your email :) [19:08] Metcalf: Will sent answer soon [19:08] ... after I've finished crying for not winning against Roy [19:09] heh [19:09] So I could set up my current email address to forward all mail there. Then let the spam filter clean if for me! :-) [19:09] Hmmm... [19:09] Entry send - now going to window and pray for it ;-) [19:09] Fluffy: thanks :-) [19:11] Got my entry Fizmo ? [19:11] Metcalf: sent email [19:11] yes, got it [19:12] Where i have to send 500? for winning this round ? [19:12] To me :) [19:12] Okay, it's almost time to go :-( [19:12] * Fluffy waves [19:12] * Fizmo waves [19:12] cu [19:13] still continuing with the matches [19:13] still waiting for two entries [19:13] Fizzer, did you recieve Chip's entry- because of i wan't to send my entry to the tourney hill.. [19:13] yes, I got Chip's entry [19:14] O.K, thanx [19:14] Good luck everyone. [19:14] * Metcalf waves [19:14] MSG: Quit: mov.i #1,1 [19:15] brx and Wainwright haven't sent an entry [19:15] Join: Nenad joined #corewars [19:15] hi!!! [19:15] Hi [19:15] hello nenad.... [19:16] so, Roy has won? [19:16] yep [19:17] expected... [19:17] congrats for re-entry ! [19:17] Fizmo: Don't hit that spot so often! I've started crying again [19:17] Hi Nenad! [19:17] Hi Jens [19:20] Fizmo: when will you post the rest of the reults here? [19:21] Join: simple joined #corewars [19:21] Hello [19:21] hi simple [19:21] Busy here [19:22] :) [19:22] heh. I hear another beep :) [19:22] I'll probably make another nop challenge late tonight [19:22] Hi simple :) [19:23] got your entry ready? [19:23] How many days until the deadline? [19:23] an hour [19:23] 0 [19:23] or two.. [19:23] 47 minutes [19:23] err 37 [19:23] 37min to eact [19:24] *be exact [19:24] That's longer than for an irc tournament and only one entry to be made [19:24] then hurry up [19:25] Fighting German [19:25] ture optimist [19:25] *true [19:25] where is brx...... [19:26] Brx: After his impressive quali i thought he was the first who send his next entry... [19:26] well if doesnt this round is going to be a walk in the park for me :) [19:27] hrmm [19:27] If someone drops out, the person in qualification who was knocked out by the narrowest margin should take their place [19:27] IMHO [19:28] o.k, back in 30 minutes ! [19:28] * sascha is back [19:29] * sascha is back [19:29] * sascha is away: for 30 minutes [19:29] hehe [19:30] German looks as though he's good at lp. [19:30] * bvowk backs away from sascha [19:30] My only chance is to surprise him [19:33] If someone drops out, the person in qualification who was knocked out by the narrowest margin should take their place [19:34] well, I'm really hoping that I get every round all entries [19:37] But if you don't it would be a good idea. [19:37] yes [19:37] If someone doesn't send their entry for the quarter final you could replace them with the person they knocked out. And so on [19:40] ... if only I had a faster computer... this optimization process can last forever... [19:41] Why not test it on the hill :) [19:41] heh. I will, probably [19:41] I've got one good randry so far [19:41] <50 randries tested [19:42] results!!! [19:42] working on a pws ... since Starfall is in the lower half of the hill [19:42] Have I missed any yet? [19:42] only Roy vs Jens [19:42] haven't missed that [19:43] Nenad: But you won't kill it, will you? [19:43] ? [19:43] no [19:43] of course not [19:43] it's not even the same style [19:43] I'm not reoptimaxing the old one, I'm making a new one [19:44] don't want to let Hullabatwo take all the glory :) [19:45] What it HullabaTwo? A warrior ;-) [19:45] well, I guess I might test it now... but I'll probably have to replace it later [19:46] Join the queue Nenad, I'm testing too :-) [19:46] :) [19:46] I had one test today at 94t ... did well ... 2nd atm [19:46] Is there a naming scheme this round? [19:47] naming scheme? [19:47] Does anybody know, when the Standard-Hill (ICWS'88) at koth.org was created? [19:48] 1994? [19:48] no idea [19:49] The first weekly posting to r.g.c. about the results is from Oct '95, but then there are already some old warriors on it [19:49] 10mins left for entry submission... [19:50] It would be nice to know that for the description of that hill for Time Machine [19:50] *for->for the [19:52] Jens: this FAQ mentions it http://groups.google.com/group/rec.answers/msg/f0376f7a1c22c41d?dmode=source [19:52] Is it in the time machine now? [19:52] 8 min [19:52] The '88-hill? Not yet. Only '94 and '94nop [19:53] I'll probably update it tomorrow or Monday and include the Standard-hill. [19:54] simple: The hill mentioned in the FAQ hasn't the same settings as the current '88-hill [19:54] Really? [19:55] yes, so it must be an abandoned hill [19:55] heh. both of my oneshots on 94nop and Fizmo's bishot do better against my pws than any from the 94nop optimax benchmark... the clr group should be updated in the next fsh... [19:56] It is a pity, that I can't include the data for the Pizza-hill, but I have almost no data for it :( [19:56] It has the same settings [19:57] err [19:57] ;redcode and ;redcode-x select hills with rules of the regular [19:57] and experimantal hills at intel.com (see above). [19:57] Core size: 8 000 instructions [19:57] Max processes: 8 000 per program [19:57] Duration: After 80 000 cycles per program, a tie is declared. [19:57] Max entry length: 100 instructions [19:58] err [19:58] now I'm confused [19:58] The hill in your link has a size of 8192, maxprocess=64, ... [19:58] There is a description of the icws hill there too [19:59] Core size: 8 192 instructions [19:59] Max processes: 64 per program [19:59] Duration: After 100 000 cycles per program, a tie is declared. [19:59] Max entry length: 300 instructions [19:59] yes [20:00] Just above that is a paragraph about the stormking koth. [20:01] It says the ;redcode hill is like the intel.com hill [20:01] Which is described about 60 lines above [20:01] hehe ... maybe I should read the whole text before complaining [20:01] :-) [20:01] thanks for the link [20:02] You don't by any chance have old results for any hill? [20:02] I sent everything to John and it's in his logs. [20:03] ok [20:03] I started playing in 1997. I would quite like to see some results from the beginner hill when I used to be on there [20:03] phew, done [20:04] Done? [20:04] Results? [20:04] the results? [20:04] yep, 7 results out of 8 [20:04] and the 8th? [20:04] simple: There was a beginner hill on koth.org? [20:04] brx hasn't send his entry so far [20:05] ... he knocked me out and hadn't even sent an entry... [20:05] Fluffy: No, it was on Pizza Hill [20:05] :-( [20:06] ... and no data available :-( [20:06] Fizmo: so, the results... we're waiting [20:08] you want the results? [20:08] What was -p Fizmo? [20:08] YES! [20:08] yes, of course... [20:08] ok [20:09] Jens Gutzeit vs. Roy van Rijn [20:09] Jens Gutzeit 233.30 [20:09] Roy van Rijn 285.80 [20:09] Don't hit that spot again! [20:09] :) [20:10] Are you teasing us Fizmo? :-) [20:10] S. Fernandes vs. Mizcu [20:10] S. Fernandes 282.90 [20:10] Mizcu 275.40 [20:10] ENGFEH [20:11] That's very close [20:11] (he sended oneshot, right?) [20:11] the closest one. Each won a match with a slight advantage for Fernandes [20:11] Mizcu: you too? [20:11] I haven't looked into the entries. No time for that [20:12] Nah, Recon 2 with different step, lot shorter scan-run and a decoy [20:12] datagram vs. inversed [20:12] datagram 175.20 [20:12] inversed 345.30 [20:13] then sf plays inversed next round [20:13] very strong entry of inversed [20:13] I guess he'll be first in the off-topic round robin [20:13] but we'll see [20:13] John Metcalf vs. fiveop [20:14] fiveop: still there? [20:14] John Metcalf 316.60 [20:14] fiveop 243.40 [20:15] is sascha still back? [20:15] he isn't back yet [20:15] * sascha is back [20:15] oh :) [20:15] just in time [20:16] Sascha Zapf vs. Chip Wendell [20:16] back again... [20:16] Sascha Zapf vs. Chip Wendell [20:16] Sascha Zapf 233.3 [20:16] Chip Wendell 295.70 [20:16] then John plays Chip next round [20:17] German Labarga vs. Simon Wainwright [20:17] :-( [20:17] * simple daren't look [20:17] German Labarga 309.40 [20:17] Simon Wainwright 253.00 [20:18] :-/ [20:18] Michal Janeczek vs. Zul Nadzri [20:18] My entry wasn't very good, I think German deserved to win :-) [20:18] Michal Janeczek 195.00 [20:18] Zul Nadzri 239.40 [20:18] a big surprise!!! [20:19] why? [20:19] I'm not so surprised [20:19] Well, I predicted Michal as first [20:19] well, you were wrong :) [20:19] Michal's gelatinous cube is, if i remember right, top-5 LP-warrior [20:20] Nenad Tomasev vs. John K. Lewis [20:20] I probably lost [20:20] Nenad Tomasev 493.80 [20:20] John K. Lewis 81.60 [20:20] !! [20:20] it was the clearest win of all [20:20] nope [20:20] elkauka 600 [20:20] brx 0 [20:21] Congrats, elkauka! [20:21] :) [20:21] LAchi didn't send, so I don't worry to win with my entry [20:21] I think the predictions need updating. [20:22] what about elkauka and brx? [20:22] elkauka, sf and inversed all need moving up 9 places! [20:23] 3rd palce then if i recall my old ranking position right [20:23] *place [20:24] You're definitely inside the top 8, whatever happens. [20:24] still wait a bit more for brx, maybe he didn'T heard the wake up call [20:25] heh. ... maybe I could step in for brx... but you probably wouldn't allow that, right? [20:25] Sorry I didn't realise you're waiting for brx. [20:26] Am I out, Am I out? [20:26] yes [20:26] Nenad: I suggest, that the one with the program with the best name steps in. And that is clearly me [20:26] ;-) [20:26] Sorry Fiveop. Your program did okay though [20:26] yes yes :) [20:27] what was the name, Jens? [20:27] were in the kitchen ;) [20:27] [20:14] John Metcalf 316.60 [20:27] [20:14] fiveop 243.40 [20:27] But ... this is a result I can live with :P [20:27] Not bad against Metcalf...congrat [20:27] What did everyone send? [20:28] Fizmo, did you a round robin of all entrys for the rounds beside the tournament ? [20:28] qscan -> Stone/Imp -> d-clear [20:28] ;strategy clear/imp [20:28] sai [20:28] What type was the warrior I fought? [20:29] sascha: Yes I'll do it [20:30] May I put my entry for round robin as well, even if I didn't fought LAchi? [20:30] Yes, you should do [20:30] all entrys... [20:30] If you are waiting for Brx maybe you shouldn't put elkauka's in [20:30] why? [20:31] In case the scores give something away? [20:31] datagram: when did you last spoke to him? [20:31] did roy say anything about when he'll be back here? [20:33] Fizmo: how long do you plan to wait for brx? [20:34] maybe another hour, not more [20:34] and then elkauka wins by default [20:35] :) [20:35] or atleast get +50 points for sending my entry within the deadline [20:36] :P [20:36] I think I have now all available results for the '88-hill at koth.org form Oct '95-Oct '05 [20:36] grats [20:36] still run round-robin but without el kauka [20:36] you want to see it? [20:36] yes [20:36] Yes [20:36] yes [20:37] yes [20:37] yes [20:37] Nick Change: Fluffy changed nick to Metcalf [20:37] yes [20:37] Nick Change: Metcalf changed nick to Fluffy [20:37] ... [20:37] Nick Change: sascha changed nick to roy [20:37] yes [20:37] # %W %L %T Name Author Score % [20:37] 1 50.9 36.6 12.5 Bewitching S.Fernandes 165.31 100.0 [20:37] 2 37.0 13.3 49.8 Wash'n'Go inversed 160.75 97.2 [20:37] 3 36.1 15.3 48.6 Dog ate my warrior Michal Janeczek 156.81 94.9 [20:37] 4 44.8 42.7 12.5 CSEC R2 warrior Miz 146.94 88.9 [20:37] 5 38.8 30.9 30.3 Straight through the core G.Labarga 146.75 88.8 [20:37] 6 26.4 6.9 66.6 Harmless Fluffy Time Zul Nadzri 145.94 88.3 [20:37] 7 30.1 22.1 47.8 la flufis. mrobi'o Roy van Rijn 138.19 83.6 [20:37] 8 31.5 27.4 41.1 toffee apple John Metcalf 135.56 82.0 [20:37] 9 31.6 29.8 38.7 entryInVain Nenad Tomasev 133.38 80.7 [20:37] 10 26.2 26.2 47.6 Human datagram 126.19 76.3 [20:37] 11 25.1 29.3 45.6 Modus operandi Sascha Zapf 121.00 73.2 [20:37] 12 23.4 31.3 45.4 swept away Simon Wainwright 115.50 69.9 [20:37] 13 21.2 29.6 49.3 Muffy Christian Schmidt 112.81 68.2 [20:37] 14 31.9 56.7 11.4 RedPixel.3 John Lewis 107.19 64.8 [20:37] 15 15.6 26.1 58.3 Cave Troll Chip Wendell 105.19 63.6 [20:37] 16 25.3 51.9 22.8 Ymir's Sporecloud Philipp Schaefer 98.69 59.7 [20:37] 17 16.9 37.1 46.1 No 3735928559 Jens Gutzeit 96.69 58.5 [20:37] that's for -p 8000 [20:37] omg I would've possibly beaten Jens! :P [20:37] Wow, that is bad [20:38] Chip is very low [20:38] Nick Change: roy changed nick to sascha [20:38] I still low the name of Roy's warrior [20:38] SF is very high again [20:38] again sf at the top [20:38] LP is here: [20:38] # %W %L %T Name Author Score % [20:38] 1 43.5 18.3 38.2 Dog ate my warrior Michal Janeczek 168.69 100.0 [20:38] 2 43.5 23.4 33.1 Muffy Christian Schmidt 163.63 97.0 [20:38] 3 42.0 23.5 34.5 Wash'n'Go inversed 160.50 95.1 [20:38] 4 48.0 37.1 14.9 Straight through the core G.Labarga 158.88 94.2 [20:38] 5 40.0 23.6 36.4 toffee apple John Metcalf 156.38 92.7 [20:38] 6 35.9 17.3 46.8 Harmless Fluffy Time Zul Nadzri 154.44 91.6 [20:38] 7 36.7 21.2 42.1 swept away Simon Wainwright 152.19 90.2 [20:38] 8 40.4 32.9 26.8 la flufis. mrobi'o Roy van Rijn 147.88 87.7 [20:38] 9 34.3 25.8 39.9 entryInVain Nenad Tomasev 142.69 84.6 [20:38] 10 43.8 46.1 10.1 CSEC R2 warrior Miz 141.38 83.8 [20:38] 11 34.9 33.0 32.1 Human datagram 136.88 81.1 [20:38] 12 36.9 39.6 23.6 Bewitching S.Fernandes 134.19 79.5 [20:38] 13 36.5 40.1 23.4 Ymir's Sporecloud Philipp Schaefer 132.88 78.8 [20:38] 14 27.3 37.3 35.4 No 3735928559 Jens Gutzeit 117.38 69.6 [20:38] 15 18.3 51.0 30.7 Cave Troll Chip Wendell 85.63 50.8 [20:38] 16 23.6 69.6 6.8 Modus operandi Sascha Zapf 77.50 45.9 [20:39] 17 18.1 63.7 18.3 RedPixel.3 John Lewis 72.44 42.9 [20:39] my warrior actually did ok. ... [20:39] * Fluffy hides and will never come out of his corner ... [20:39] lol: Dog ate my warrior [20:39] omg I would've possibly beaten Jens! :P (again) :/ [20:39] well, it's round robin, you can't directly compare [20:40] * Fluffy hides even more in his corner ... [20:40] I hope that brx gets beaten even if he sends his warrior within an hour. he had a very inappropriate statement here a few days ago ... [20:40] * sascha hides in fluffy's shadow [20:40] It looks like Michal's was the best overall, adding the scores together. [20:40] Followed by Inversed [20:40] Nenad: what statement? [20:40] and I'm sorry that I can't eliminate brx myself now [20:40] during the kosovo conflict, we germans showed those serbians what happens if they don't follow our orders. also, that one should not challenge armored, armed germans in fortified positions. [20:40] [02:18] though that should have been made clear enough by our performance in ww2. [20:41] :-( [20:42] well, Zul seems to have choosen the right strategy [20:42] in comon chat rooms that would cause kikc/ban [20:42] Best in round robin is clear inversed...2 and 3 place...followed by michal... [20:42] Nenad: This might be critic towars his own country [20:42] +d [20:42] I think it wasn't meant to be that [20:43] and I also feel that this is no place for politics [20:43] if he wants to discuss that, he can do that on a different chanell, as far as I'm concerned [20:43] *channel [20:43] Except for mentioning how stupid George Bush is! I think that is universally agreed! [20:44] (no offense intended!) [20:44] :) [20:44] Nenad: I don't think that brx realy identifies with germany, so that you can't take much on this statment [20:45] -can't +shouldn't [20:46] well, I was reading those logs after I came back from a visit to a friend that lost his home and much more on Kosovo, so I didn't feel comfortable about finding it said here [20:47] I never feel very comfortable with such things [20:47] You should always have in mind, that people like him and me and most of the others here, don't know the specific situations quite well, so that we are fast in making in apropriate statements like this [20:47] brx is a person that likes to provoke [20:47] (omg when he reads what I'm talking about him ;)) [20:48] a good friend of mine comes from Bosnia.. [20:50] so much about this, let's switch topic again ;) [20:50] yes, let's do so [20:50] Have to go. Back same time next week for results! [20:50] * simple waves [20:50] MSG: Quit: HydraIRC -> http://www.hydrairc.com <- IRC for those that like to be different [20:50] well, let's look of the pairs for the next round [20:50] * Nenad waves [20:50] * fiveop waves [20:51] German Labarga vs. Zul Nadzri [20:51] Chip Wendell vs. John Metcalf [20:51] S. Fernandes vs. inversed [20:52] roy vs elk? [20:52] el kauka vs. Roy van Rijn [20:52] :) [20:52] and me... vs ... ? what was that battle vs jkl for? [20:53] I have to make the lottery first [20:53] it's against one of the losers of Round 2 [20:53] but only that one who sent an entry [20:54] omg another week of stress :/ [20:54] so, it could be Sascha, Jens, Mizcu, fiveop, datagram [20:54] New rules out already? [20:55] tomorrow morning I'll upload the quarterfinal page [20:55] I have to prepare the fixtures [20:57] ok, time to go for me. [20:57] * Nenad waves to Fizmo [20:57] * Fizmo waves to all [20:58] cu fizzer [20:58] MSG: [21:01] * elkauka waves [21:02] Part: elkauka left #corewars [21:12] time to go [21:12] * Fluffy waves [21:12] Part: Fluffy left #corewars [21:16] MSG: Quit: humhum [21:17] Join: fiveop joined #corewars [21:22] MSG: Read error: Connection reset by peer [21:22] Join: fiveop joined #corewars [21:25] MSG: Read error: Connection reset by peer [21:25] Join: fiveop joined #corewars [21:31] * Nenad waves [21:32] MSG: [21:33] * sascha waves and goes crying in my bed [21:33] * fiveop waves [21:33] Part: sascha left #corewars [21:33] * fiveop waves [21:33] hm [21:33] by ;) [21:33] e [21:33] MSG: Quit: humhum [22:01] Join: Roy joined #corewars [22:01] Yay! [22:01] MSG: Client Quit [23:07] MSG: Ping timeout: 252 seconds