[05:20] Join: Mizcu joined #corewars [05:40] MSG: Ping timeout: 252 seconds [05:45] Join: Mizcu joined #corewars [05:48] damnit, got a coaster [05:50] MSG: Read error: Operation timed out [06:01] Join: imrahil joined #corewars [06:02] hi [06:02] mornin' [06:02] i had something like an idea [06:02] org scanner [06:02] scanner add #-7,1 [06:02] jmz -1,@-102 [06:02] spl @-1,<-1 [06:02] jmp scanner [06:03] what do you think? [06:03] troll/nightmare splitter, eh [06:03] Problem is that i cannot beat anything, and will only get points from ties [06:03] Which is not good enough to get on hills [06:04] it actually beat the wilkies in 5% [06:04] ^^ [06:04] and got a 47-48 tie-losses [06:05] Join: datagram joined #corewars [06:06] well, I'm afk [08:08] Join: fiveop joined #corewars [08:43] Join: fiveop_ joined #corewars [08:46] MSG: Ping timeout: 252 seconds [10:05] Join: michal joined #corewars [10:14] MSG: Quit: michal [10:14] Join: michal joined #corewars [10:43] MSG: Quit: michal [12:29] Join: Core29 joined #corewars [13:37] are there jumps that are able to compare something? [14:20] Join: caesar joined #corewars [14:20] hi [14:21] hi [14:24] imrahil.new guys,cool [14:24] how r u? [14:24] too late thats what i am [14:24] damnit [14:24] ^^ [14:24] * imrahil is afk [14:25] sorry,i had go now. bye,imrahil [14:25] MSG: Quit: GoodBye , My Friends... [14:45] Join: elkauka joined #corewars [14:45] hi [14:54] MSG: Ping timeout: 252 seconds [15:01] MSG: Ping timeout: 252 seconds [15:18] Join: datagram joined #corewars [16:05] Part: elkauka left #corewars [16:27] Join: pak21 joined #corewars [16:44] Join: Fluffy joined #corewars [16:44] Hi everybody :) [16:44] hi [16:44] Nick Change: fiveop_ changed nick to fiveop [16:46] :) [16:47] hrm [16:48] what? [16:51] * bvowk stabls fluffy with a mechanical pencil for being too fluffy. [16:51] meh. [16:51] still trying to get the huge score array done :) [16:52] its actually alot harder than I thought it would be.. [16:52] because of the size of the data.. [16:52] but I did get it imported into a mysql db [16:52] Join: Core29 joined #corewars [16:52] grats :) [16:53] aren't there any better free dbs than mysql for such huge amounts of rows? [16:53] heh.. [16:53] well.. [16:54] mysql runs fast and loose with some of the sqlish stuff.. [16:54] so its a little faster.. [16:54] on the other hand, for building the score report.. its pretty much useless, as it would take about 4851 days to generate the report (on a dual O252 w/ 4GB ram and a kickass raid) [16:55] so Joonas wrote a cute little hack to write it into a binary database, but its unsorted so far, so I'm writing a hack to put it into huge array style order.. [16:55] which should let me generate a report in pretty short order.. [16:55] I've just gotta get past the disk seek time issue I'm having :) [16:57] the big news this week is the impending release of the new movie based on J.K. Rowling's phenominally successful book series, Harry Potter And The Enormous Royalty Check. [16:57] lol [17:00] * Fluffy pokes bvowk in both eyes just for fun [17:00] Hi bvowk [17:01] Have you ever tries sqlite? [17:01] *tried [17:01] It supports max. 2 terabytes and quite fast :) [17:03] hrm [17:03] MSG: Quit: leaving [17:11] bvowk: What exactly are you benchmarking? [17:11] 152k nano warriors.. [17:11] MSG: Read error: Connection reset by peer [17:13] Join: johnkw joined #corewars [17:13] Why 152k nano warrior? Is anything special about them? [17:13] *warrios [17:13] *warriors [17:13] happy microsoft patch day [17:13] well.. its all the nano warriors I ever evolved.. [17:13] so I was going to rank them all nicely [17:13] Hi johnkw! [17:13] greets john [17:13] :) [17:14] the problem is, that 152k works out to a *HUGE* number of battles.. [17:14] johnkw: Have seen you a long time here, but you've been silent all the time [17:14] 152k*152k [17:14] * johnkw waves [17:14] so a) the data is too big to fit in memory b) disk access is painfully slow [17:15] yea this irc chan existed for like 2 years, but no one ever stayed, cause it'd just be empty a lot. so I started idling here 24/7 to encourage use. [17:15] now people camp here all the time! [17:15] johnkw: Unfortunately I cannot do that atm, but maybe in a couple of months [17:16] which gives john a chance to avoid getting holed once a month :) [17:16] bvowk: You should give SQLite a try. So far it always has exceeded my expectations [17:18] Its big advantage is, that it isn't server-based. It is just a tiny library, which can be included in any program :) [17:19] Fluffy: the problem is diskaccess speed [17:19] even on the raid which has a seek time somewhere down around 2-3ms [17:20] bvowk: How about adding just another 18 GB of RAM ;-) [17:20] heh.. [17:20] .. [17:20] indeed after I stuck around for a couple months, the ball got rolling and now things are probably self-sustaining :) [17:21] you'd need a 64 bit OS [17:21] already there.. [17:22] 64bit linux? [17:22] johnkw: But you should prevent bvowk from using senseless force against other playes. Today I've already been tortured by bvowk ;-) [17:22] I wonder if I could convince Jim to let me have a go with his 32GB quad O [17:22] hehe [17:22] 64bit FreeBSD [17:22] and Solaris, and OpenBSD [17:23] bvowk: maybe a 36- or 37-bit-OS is enough ;-) [17:23] does glibc let you new() over 2 gig on those? [17:23] libc does [17:23] although, on freebsd, you can't mmap more than 2GB.. [17:23] which is kinda a pissoff. [17:24] hrm.. [17:24] even 64bit freebsd? [17:24] actually.. let me test that.. I don't recall if I've ever mallocd more than 4GB in a single swath on freebsd befor.. [17:24] yeah.. [17:25] 64bit free still has 2GB mmap limit. [17:27] yeah.. looks like its good for huge memory allocs [17:28] Join: sf joined #corewars [17:28] Hi [17:29] Hi sf :) [17:35] WOW [17:35] i reached the buss [17:35] Hi Imrahil [17:35] about 10 seconds before it arrived ^^ [17:35] hi ;) [17:35] -s [17:35] ^^ [17:37] :) [17:39] I still have absolutely no idea for a succesfull warrior [17:39] Imrahil: do you remember that little scanner you posted in here? [17:39] yeah [17:39] you mean this multiprocess scanner? [17:39] Try it on the nano hill and the multiwarrior hill. [17:40] that thing: [17:40] [07:04:26] org scanner [17:40] [07:04:26] scanner add #-7,1 [17:40] [07:04:26] jmz -1,@-102 [17:40] [07:04:26] spl @-1,<-1 [17:40] [07:04:26] jmp scanner [17:40] ??? [17:40] Yes [17:40] it sucked pretty bad on the beginner hill [17:40] And if it doesn't work, try making it bomb instead on splitting [17:41] that's not that big a problem [17:41] If it bombs with a simple dat bomb it might get onto the nano hilll [17:43] hm [17:43] a cycle of -102 isn't likely to be of any use [17:43] ^^ [17:43] I've made it into the top four of CWSET! [17:44] Anyone want to update predictions? [17:44] -102 is the starting location. -7 is the step. [17:46] For the nano hill try changing the -102 to a smallish number (-10) because the coresize is only 80 [17:47] i know that ;) [17:47] sf i created it from scratch, well it's not more than a scratch so this information kind of makes no sense but no matter [17:47] ^^ [17:48] It could get on the nano hill with a little bit of work [17:49] hm, work in which direction [17:49] as a newb I really have no idea of where to start with recreation [17:50] maxlength on nano hill is 5 [17:50] so a good step would be 5. [17:50] and it would be better to start scanning just before or just after your program [17:51] i start scanning at the point right in my back [17:51] and do some bombing [18:01] huge malloc ok, but what about a huge new? [18:01] Hi John [18:05] Join: Roy joined #corewars [18:05] Hi all [18:07] Hi Roy [18:08] Hmm, intresting new set of rules [18:09] 32 processes... [18:09] Yes, I can't remember where I saw that neat switcher with parallel processes? [18:10] What kind of switcher? [18:11] Um. Just remembered who I'm up against this round [18:11] Hehe (hi!) [18:16] YIPPIE ;) [18:16] first bot on the nanohill ;) [18:18] Congrats :) [18:18] eh? [18:18] Nice! [18:19] well, first bot anywhere ^^ [18:25] what do you mean by bot? [18:26] bot equ warrior [18:26] (I think( [18:26] Evolved by super-secret evolving technique [18:26] On the hill with about 2 minutes evolving time, you have some competition bvowk [18:27] lol [18:46] Part: Fluffy left #corewars [18:58] Join: Fizmo joined #corewars [18:58] hi all [18:58] Hi Fizmo [18:58] Hi Christian [18:58] hope you're happy with the rules for the semifinals ;-) [18:58] hm [18:59] They look tricky [18:59] i'm rank 32 on the nanohill, thx to sf stopping me from taking an outtime ^^ [18:59] thx *g* [18:59] :) [19:00] That's okay :) [19:00] You did all the work I just asked the right questions [19:00] welcome to the hill experienced redcoderz :-P [19:00] lol [19:01] Imrahil: a lot of programmers try to get on the nano hill and fail! ;) [19:02] _o/ [19:02] try it Chris [19:02] hm, I try to get on the beginner hill and fail [19:02] but I think I captured the idea now ^^ [19:02] well, the beginner hill is still tough to enter [19:03] I need to kill dragonfly [19:03] but in near future we'll implement an age limit [19:03] hm, i would be greatfull to define near future as "in about one minute" [19:03] ^^ [19:03] that the hill didn't get too hard to enter [19:04] well, it should be within this year [19:04] ok, close enough ^^ [19:05] 4 48.9 44.6 6.4 Bombus Bohemicus S.Fernandes 153.3 1 <- that guy is togh [19:05] +u [19:05] :) [19:05] i think the idea behind my bot isn't good enough to cover this ^^ [19:06] I do well enough against the infininanohill-bots but my ranking is about the same there as here [19:07] ;-) [19:14] Wow!!!! [19:14] I MADE SECOND [19:14] 2 51.0 44.4 4.6 SuperSentryIV J.J. Wingert 157.5 1 [19:14] scanning backwards did the trick! [19:14] yay [19:15] so much about that one there: [20:07:11] i think the idea behind my bot isn't good enough to cover this ^^ [19:15] congratulation :) [19:24] imrahil: welcome to the alomst King-of-the-Hill club :-P [19:24] ^^ [19:25] *almost [19:25] heya fiz [19:25] hey Bvowkium [19:26] how's it going? [19:26] pretty well [19:27] Join: sascha joined #corewars [19:27] hi Sascha :) [19:27] Hi, everytime i log in there are new nicks on my screen...thats very nice... [19:27] Hi Chris.. [19:28] Hi Sascha [19:28] Sascha: Congratulation [19:28] Hi sfs...nice success at cwset..wish you the best against Roy... [19:28] Thanks sascha [19:29] My fingers are crossed [19:29] Congrats for what ? [19:29] Sascha: You're german cw tutorial reaches the university as a cw tutorial script in a lecture [19:29] found a very interesting link :) [19:30] oh my god...if they see all the typos they will erase it from their servers... [19:30] from this years summer semester [19:30] http://mwilhelm.hs-harz.de/scripte/pwoche/CoreWars.pdf [19:31] he added a complete description of how CoreWin is working, etc. etc. [19:31] after the course they made a tournament and finally a copy of d-clear won :-P [19:32] http://mwilhelm.hs-harz.de/vorlesungen/projektwoche/ss205/index.html [19:33] Heh, and CoreWin shows as warrior Revenge of the Papers [19:33] Nice! [19:33] and CrazyShot 2 [19:39] Gotta go, bye [19:39] MSG: [19:39] * sf waves [19:42] * Fizmo waves [20:00] ha and i'm still coding on it ^^ [20:00] :) [20:01] Try any ideas you have. [20:01] If they don't work, try to find out why not [20:03] hm [20:03] sf your trys are making my stats worse ^^ [20:03] 3rd now ^^ [20:03] Sorry [20:11] I'm currently on the starting point ^^ [20:11] i think if it is replaced correctly [20:11] i could gain some points [20:11] scanstart? [20:11] so long it looks fine [20:12] yeah [20:12] I'm trying it on -11 atm [20:12] There are only 80 possible values [20:12] no way to tell which one is best before testing every last one ^^ [20:12] 3/4 of those can be discarded [20:13] Some players would test every last one [20:13] ;-) [20:13] Hi Imrahil, [20:13] >> Please include this on the infinite nano hill! [20:13] Done. [20:13] Christoph [20:13] i'll do for shure [20:13] you never know [20:14] I think from probability it should be somewhere in the last quarter [20:14] 32nd :-) [20:14] nice [20:15] Join: Core29_ joined #corewars [20:17] * sf waves [20:17] * Fizmo waves [20:17] MSG: Quit: Get out of that boring IRC client! It's no good for you. Bersirc 2.2 is your answer! [ http://www.bersirc.org/ [20:17] * imrahil waves back [20:17] ^^ [20:17] argh too late ^^ [20:18] you think 250 rounds are enough to include relativity to the benchmark? [20:18] I would think so [20:18] MSG: Ping timeout: 252 seconds [20:25] hm, lets see wether it works out as expected [20:25] damn [20:29] nothing at all as expected [20:29] well, I'll work on it tomorrow [20:29] gn8 [20:30] gn8 [20:30] MSG: Quit: BLUT! BLUT! RÄUBER SAUFEN BLUT! HOCH VOM GALGEN KLINGT ES, RAUB UND MORD UND ÜBERFALL SIND GUT! [20:45] gotta go now [20:45] * sascha waves [20:46] * Fizmo waves [20:46] MSG: [20:56] Join: Philb joined #corewars [20:57] Hi Phil...Nice to see you ! [20:57] Hi Sascha and all. [20:58] Interesting results so far. [20:59] Yeah, Sandra and Zul are the surprises of the year...Chip seems better than ever.. [21:00] Bboth have bene on the hills. Zul has dominated the 94X hill with ( I think ) 3 strong warriors last I checked [21:01] O.K, but on 94nop his performance was not so good... [21:02] Ah SF has one there too. I haven't checked for a (long) while [21:02] True, he seems to prefer p-space. [21:03] OMG - what happened to Denial? [21:03] yes...He loves handshaking... [21:04] Did Dave Moore kill all his warriors? I can't belive they'd have been pushed off. [21:05] Ses, he kill all his warrioir and send a little stone/imp to the 94nop...we all thought that he will came back..but after he pushed of no one heard of him.. [21:05] we know nothing about his motivation to do this... [21:05] When did this happen? was the s/i any good? [21:05] Well he said 'good bye' in the newsgroup a long time back now. Maybe 2 years. [21:06] like some other..but sometimes they came back.... [21:06] Interestingly I see Paul Kline made the last submission to 94NOP [21:08] He did a challende last week to..We are very happy about that....And Phillip Kendall sometimjes appaer here on irc the last week... [21:09] Who are you Philb? [21:10] The mighty Waknuk. And Philb [21:10] hm :) [21:11] hey phil [21:11] If I had time I'd check see if DM is still active on nettrek. My guess he found he can use his brains for something u$eful [21:11] nice to see you [21:11] Hi bvowk, thought you were away. I am. [21:11] you are? [21:11] you seem here to me. [21:11] he is ! [21:14] * Philb can't deny it [21:16] * Philb is sad to be missing Fizmo's tourney. [21:18] * Philb waves [21:18] Part: Philb left #corewars [22:00] MSG: Quit: Trillian (http://www.ceruleanstudios.com [22:21] MSG: Quit: humhum [22:22] Join: pak21 joined #corewars [22:25] hmm...late in germany....g'night [22:25] * sascha waves [22:25] Part: sascha left #corewars [22:47] Join: michal joined #corewars [22:48] hey! michal! 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