[02:18] MSG: Quit: leaving [06:22] Join: Mizcu joined #corewars [08:02] MSG: Quit: leaving [09:27] Join: pak21 joined #corewars [09:42] Join: fiveop joined #corewars [09:51] MSG: Read error: Operation timed out [10:03] Join: asw joined #corewars [10:22] Join: Nenad joined #corewars [10:24] MSG: Client Quit [11:29] Join: Core29 joined #corewars [11:34] MSG: Ping timeout: 252 seconds [12:09] Join: thedog joined #corewars [12:09] lo all [12:09] etonnant je ne te vois pas [12:11] Join: zoot joined #corewars [12:11] hello [12:11] hell0 [12:12] are you siblings? [12:12] no why? [12:12] are you? [12:12] cause you've got the same ip [12:13] aha [12:13] MSG: Ping timeout: 252 seconds [12:13] no its the same home [12:13] we are lovers [12:13] nice news :) [12:13] but not now cause i've a headache [12:13] "aha" sounds german [12:14] or jiddish [12:14] or dutch [12:14] dunno [12:14] or frankist [12:15] don't worry i'm just lurking the geek/techtalk [12:15] for a science project [12:15] as she already had a headach, this shouldn't help [12:15] so i know better what the dog is talking about with this freakin game code (: [12:16] rtfm :) [12:16] there is a manual? [12:18] It might get slightly over if youd rtfm, so i suggest a beginners guide first [12:18] yes! [12:18] http://vyznev.net/corewar/guide.html [12:19] beginners irc guide first it has been tooo long ago i can't remember what all the buttons are for [12:19] Mizcu, where can i find an advanced user guide ? [12:19] and where can i register to Core warrior and core explorer ? [12:20] they are sent automatically to rec.games.corewar when published [12:21] there isnt really any advanced users guide [12:21] ok there is no mailing list [12:21] the biginners guide looks good [12:21] the Corewarriors have a lot of things to check out [12:21] i meant something a bit deeper than this html nice looking guide [12:22] sa i said, theres not a single direct guide that goes deeper [12:23] ok [12:23] thedog maybe you should write that advanced manual?! [12:23] There are articles in Corewarrior, the corewar Lexicon has an excellent paper-article, and corewar.co.uk has some other [12:25] Mizcu : thks that's what i am dwnloading now [12:25] zoot, unfortunately, i don't think my warriors are able to climb a single hill [12:26] they are just able to fight against classical cases [12:27] you just started... when you're in it for a while you'll get better [12:27] thedog, the corewarriors pdf -file is really useful [12:27] yes that's wht i think about it [12:28] * thedog is lost in silk' edge effects [12:29] Mizcu, got an address for this, i think i missed this one [12:29] -, +? [12:30] http://www.firetrench.com/corewar/ [12:34] thks [12:43] * thedog goes loosing himself in a bunch or code wrriors issues [12:45] MSG: Ping timeout: 252 seconds [12:55] cu later :) [12:56] MSG: Quit: Quitte [14:10] Join: ranok joined #corewars [14:45] MSG: Ping timeout: 252 seconds [14:46] Join: cube joined #corewars [14:46] hiho [14:46] ho [14:46] whats going on? [14:47] not much [14:48] lol [14:49] what are you doing in the moment? [14:50] friend just came to visit [14:51] Morning. [14:55] is this channel always as empty as now? [14:55] usually at this time of day yes [14:56] itll take few hours for people to start coming [14:58] i see [15:03] greetings all. [15:03] I'm *ALMOST* done a top50k rerun.. [15:03] with all of infnano.. [15:10] um.. [15:10] thats either wrong, or just very unexpected.. [15:10] 50087 41.4 2.7 55.9 TYPE-1.RED 126.90 [15:13] is here sb from germany? [15:13] or where do you come from? [15:15] ??? [15:17] www.math.ualberta.ca/~bvowk/50k-report.txt [15:17] I think that'll make C|N>K [15:21] wbtw. [15:21] eep. [15:21] Join: Fluffy joined #corewars [15:21] hey Jens [15:21] :) [15:21] you might be interested in www.math.ualberta.ca/~bvowk/50k-report.txt [15:21] and the report.txt [15:22] doh! [15:22] ? [15:22] you might be interested in www.math.ualberta.ca/~bvowk/files/50k-report.txt [15:22] wrong url [15:22] Thanks, but at first I have to eat a little bit. I'm starving [15:26] lol [15:29] ok ... that's better [15:32] hmm ... is HYPERGATE on Koenigstuhl? [15:33] Seems to be, but it is 133th on Koenigstuhl! [15:33] bvowk: Is is the same warrior? [15:35] It is just a simple gate [15:38] Hi cube, never seen you here before. [15:38] Join: Metcalf joined #corewars [15:39] HI [15:39] Hi John! [15:39] I've just finished work, it makes a change to finish early [15:41] It been a long time since I've asked that: Is your "unbeatable" warrior ready? [15:42] No. [15:42] I haven't done anything with it recently. I have been concentrating on CWSET and work :-( [15:43] Now I know, why it is unbeatable. It will never fight any other warrior. That way nobody can beat it ;-) [15:44] :-) [15:58] hey met [15:58] Hi Bvowk [15:58] you see the results? [15:59] I think you have wins / losses flipped! [15:59] heh [15:59] hrm... [15:59] let me go check the code.. [15:59] The warriors are in more or less the reverse order to those on infinano! [16:00] hehe ... that would explain a lot [16:01] yeah.. actually it might.. [16:01] :- [16:01] ) [16:01] let me check flap, because my code seems correct.. but joonas's might not be.. [16:02] err.. [16:02] sonaj? [16:02] dammit.. I'm going to hear it for that.. [16:02] bvowk, you write the log_guy. just add an extra line of code to censor the offending name [16:04] And while you are upgrading log_guy, it might be useful to create extra dirs for every month [16:04] and put the logs in them :) [16:08] send me an email with those.. [16:08] they'll get done then [16:09] If you reverse the wins/losses, I will be koth :-) [16:11] with type-1? [16:11] No [16:11] Trial by fire [16:11] I haven't even got to start on my CWSET entry for this round yet : / .... [16:12] Type-1 is dropping rapidly down the hill [16:12] It's been a while since I've last checked nano [16:13] It started dropping over the weekend. Multiple submissions of similar code [16:13] you're right.. they're flipped! [16:14] :-) [16:14] 46539:37470:77,64:64,77 [16:14] 46539:37470:64:77: [16:14] doh! [16:15] How about using English, bvowk ;-) [16:15] Maybe I could understand it then, too :) [16:16] sorry the top one is the source, warrior id 1:warrior id 2:warrior1's wins,losses: warrior2's wins, losses [16:16] bottom one is a dump of the binary log [16:16] you'll notice that wid1 has wid2's wins [16:17] How long will it take until the corrected data is online? [16:17] 5 minutes? [16:17] Goodnight, kids. [16:17] not long for the 50k one.. about 45 minutes for the big one.. [16:18] * Metcalf waves [16:18] but the problem is I took the *BOTTOM* half of the big hill to make the 50k one.. [16:18] so I'll need to rerun that :) [16:18] I've been up for about 12 hours dealing with stupid CEOs who <333333333 Microsoft. [16:18] * datagram passes out [16:18] :-( [16:19] won't take very long to run 50k tho.. [16:19] But you need to rerun the 152K first right? [16:19] Any chance of including all of those hand-written warriors in the 152K then? ;-) [16:20] erm.. [16:20] I was just going to re-run the report generator with the fix.. [16:21] Ah, okay [16:21] the 152k run would take... [16:21] Won't that need to run some battles anyway though? [16:21] about 2 weeks [16:21] nope.. I've got a db of all the scores [16:21] Because the 50K warriors are the wrong ones [16:21] So it will need to run the hand-written warriors agains the right ones [16:21] the 50k one I'll have to rerun [16:22] :-( [16:22] that ones not that bad.. [16:22] few hours [16:23] Wouldn't it just take a day or so to run the 152K with the hand-coded warriors? [16:23] hrm.. [16:23] 152000 * 130 nano battles = about 4 days on my rubbish machine [16:25] This webpage looks very familiar http://alife.tuke.sk/index.php?clanok=559 [16:27] Yes [16:28] How about sueing the webmaster ;-) [16:28] .sk? [16:28] Slovakia? [16:29] I think so [16:30] yes [16:30] http://www.iana.org/cctld/cctld-whois.htm#s [16:31] I guess if all my new !evolver warriors really belonged on the bottom, I have to go back to thinking my project was kinda a flop :( [16:31] :-( [16:33] :( [16:47] MSG: Quit: ... cu [16:48] bvowk: What do you think about a multiwarrior-hill for nano? [16:48] I dunno.. [16:48] it'd be pretty random [16:48] Maybe with a core, that is a little bit larget [16:48] *larger [16:48] Well, you couldn't have more than 16 warriors on it [16:49] Optimizing for mw-hills seems to be far more difficult. [16:50] I don't think, that the usual way of optimizing (against a benchmark) is enough to get good values for a warrior [16:50] Unfortunately I cannot prove it [16:52] But a tiny core has enough room for a multiwarrior-fights [16:52] You would just have to optimize against a multi-warrior benchmark [16:53] Join: cube joined #corewars [16:53] I don't think, that this is enough. (Apart from the fact, that there is no mw-benchmark out there) [16:54] Hi Cube [16:54] Your score far more depends on the current mix of warriors, that are on the hill [16:54] It can be done [16:54] Hi cube! [16:54] hi [16:54] But has sb. already done it? [16:54] No [16:55] hehe ... time to take over 94m then ;-) [16:58] MSG: [17:04] MSG: Quit: Hometime [17:09] * Metcalf waves [17:09] MSG: Quit: mov.i #1,1 [17:10] * Fluffy waves too late [17:11] time to go, too [17:11] * Fluffy waves [17:12] Part: Fluffy left #corewars [17:43] can i lower the speed in pmars? [17:44] Join: willvarfa joined #corewars [17:44] sb here who can help me? [17:45] whop can say how i can trim the speed of pMARS? [17:46] hey met, the results are up [17:46] they're right now too.. it looks like infinano [17:46] greets wil [17:46] cube: too fast or too slow? [17:47] it's too fast [17:47] too fast: pmars -e [17:47] run it in debug mode [17:47] and then it is slower? [17:47] well, you can single step it [17:47] thx [17:48] greets folks [17:48] how goes will? [17:49] www.math.ualberta.ca/~bvowk/files/report.txt [17:49] its right now :) [17:58] if i start pmars with the parameter -e it doesn't work.. [17:59] can you help me bvowk? [17:59] does it give you an error? [17:59] no [18:00] brb in 20 min [18:00] have to go eating [18:00] not bad, yourself bvowk ? [18:00] pretty good wil [18:04] Join: Roy joined #corewars [18:04] hey roy.. you're king of the 152k hill [18:05] Join: Fizmo joined #corewars [18:05] hi [18:06] hey fix [18:06] fiz even [18:06] Heh yes, I'm king! (yay) [18:06] hi bwovk [18:06] :-P [18:06] But its all because of Yace (I didn't do anything) [18:06] hi fiz [18:08] hi Roy [18:09] how is going? [18:09] Fizmo, I hate you :) [18:09] :-P [18:09] With your crazy hard rules [18:09] heh, wait for the finals [18:09] Nah, I'll probably be in the losersbracket [18:10] This round I have the least amount of hope :( [18:15] Join: ranok joined #corewars [18:16] hi [18:25] how's it going fiz? doing anything exciting? [18:31] * willvarfa yawns [18:32] I'm fine. Very busy at work, so I'm happy to relax after work [18:34] back [18:36] bvowk:can you say how i can do that the wariors battle in debugger mode? [18:41] press s [18:43] time for me to go [18:43] * willvarfa waves [18:43] MSG: Quit: Leaving [18:45] no that didn't work [18:48] MSG: Ping timeout: 252 seconds [19:11] Join: sascha joined #corewars [19:11] thats one step [19:11] hi Sascha [19:11] Hi2all [19:11] cube: don't take this the wrong way, but rtfm :) [19:12] ok,ok...but first i have to find a manual that i understand.. [19:18] There are enough manuals arround. Just read the first 5 issues from Corewarrior and you know how top handle the cdb [19:32] Join: ehy_key joined #corewars [19:33] hi [19:33] cube ? [19:33] hi key [19:33] hi Fizmo [19:34] ich und cube wir versuchen uns gerade ein bisschen an redcode ... [19:34] yo ehy_key [19:34] ich hätte da mal ne frage [19:36] b mov 1,@2 | ist b jetzt mov 1,@2 ? [19:36] quasi als wäre b ne fkt. [19:36] nee da muss noch nen EQU dazwischen [19:36] Was tun alle diese deutschen Leute hier?!? [19:36] ^^ [19:37] yup, dann würde es gehen [19:37] oh ok cool [19:37] wir lernen corewars... [19:37] kennen ... [19:37] Habt ihr mal in mein lexicon geschaut? [19:37] welches? [19:38] http://www.corewar.info/lexicon/ [19:38] cool [19:38] Cool, I got my first job offer :-) [19:38] (instead of me begging for one) [19:38] But I have to finisch my internship first.. [19:38] ist noch sehr unvollständig, wird aber noch werden [19:39] Roy: congrats :) [19:39] http://www.the-saints.nl <- they asked if I could join them [19:39] jo @fizmo [19:40] http://www.corewar.info/newsletter.htm [19:40] vorallem die älteren Ausgaben sind interessant. Pushoff und '94 warrior [19:40] ui cool [19:40] ok [19:42] wieso wird hier deutsch gesprochen? :P [19:42] ich habe keine anhung.. [19:42] keine ahnung ...weil viel deutsche hier sind ? [19:43] ein bitchen.. [19:43] bitchen ;0 [19:44] ja, wir übernhemn jetzt den kanal....huuuuurrraaaaaaaa [19:44] Roy: any concrete plans for CE2 yet? [19:44] * Roy 's deutsch ist nicht so güt :P [19:44] nope [19:44] o.k. switching to english please... [19:44] ok [19:45] Roy: the-saints.nl have a orthographical mistake right at their homepage ... [19:45] ok [19:46] Topic Change: Roy sets topic: Der deutsche kernkrieg kanal! www.corewar.info - www.koth.org - corewar.co.uk - www.ociw.edu/~birk/COREWAR - corewar.ats [19:46] lol [19:46] In german it's called: Krieg der Kerne [19:46] ;-) [19:47] right [19:48] Kernkrieg! :P [19:48] 'the-saints'... is a bit amaturistic I guess... the main programmer also looked like a junky :) [19:48] reminds me on Krieg der sterne lol star wars [19:49] Kernkrieg actualy doesn't sound to bad [19:49] jo [19:49] Roy: it's a startup at least ;) [19:49] Heh, I'm always laughing my ass of when I watch german television, everything has voice-over... so funny [19:49] In Holland 99% (except children programs) are subtitled [19:50] damn [19:50] 99% ? [19:50] heh, and your english isn't better then? [19:50] something like that, subtitles are (IMO) much better then voice-over [19:51] ;-) [19:51] My english speech is great, but the spelling is bad :-P [19:51] Roy: CE2? ... :) [19:52] 20:50 < Roy> something like that, subtitles are (IMO) much better then voice-over [19:52] ack [19:53] Just make your own "Forscher der Kern" or something... evil german people, always inviding (channels, countries..) [19:53] :-) [19:54] I would translate it Kernentdecker ;) [19:54] Hmm, yes, thats better :) [19:55] "Kernontdekker" (dutch) [19:55] (pretty similair) [19:56] Ok, I finished my semi-final warrior... I think.. [19:56] I really tried everything, including a 32 process qscan! (it worked pretty well!) [19:56] multiprocess qscan? [19:57] yeah [19:57] But I can't really discus it ofcourse, maybe after the tournament [19:57] you're sick! [19:59] if i carry out this instuction : b EQU MOV 2,@2 will it run MOV 2,@2 ? [19:59] no [20:00] ok it is only a definition ...right ? [20:00] yes, just a pseudo opcode [20:00] it replaces [labels] by text [20:00] ok [20:02] and on wich way can i call b ? so that it will run MOV 2,@2 ? [20:02] just write b in a later line [20:03] only b ? [20:03] fat [20:03] that should work, even if I never tried it [20:03] yes ok [20:05] where did you heard about corewar? [20:05] damn with ares 2.2 it doesn't work [20:06] you tried that with CoreWin, too? [20:06] we are in the hackerboard (me and cubic) [20:06] in a forum called HaBo [20:06] www.hackerboard.de [20:06] ehy_key: cube plz [20:06] lol [20:07] sorry [20:07] and there was a thread about corewar? [20:07] right [20:07] http://www.hackerboard.de/thread.php?threadid=21259 [20:08] Imrahil is there too [20:08] oh great if i use corewin it runs [20:08] cool, I didn't knew that there is a german cw wiki [20:09] Join: ranok joined #corewars [20:09] it isn't a cw wiki...it's only one thread in a big forum [20:10] http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Core_War [20:10] there was a link to that in the thread [20:11] ok [20:12] but thats only an entry in a big encyclopedia.. [20:12] lol [20:12] I never knew that Agony was a vamp [20:12] I think I should correct some aspects on that side [20:19] "nter anderem eine Art "Emulator" des Ur-Mars-Rechners der früher für Core Wars verwendet wurde.", Ur-Mars-Rechner! :) [20:19] Cool, you think I can send also something? [20:19] hehe [20:19] Fizmo: where do you want to send something? [20:20] http://www.hackerboard.de/thread.php?threadid=21259 [20:21] You have to anmelden first... [20:22] lol..das is ein english [20:22] yes you must list befor you can add things [20:22] cube: Soll ich mal eins von meinen Programmen dort posten? [20:23] list? [20:23] You must have a benutzername.. [20:23] oh, yes ;-) [20:23] you must be a registred user [20:23] lol my english is so bad [20:24] Nice questions you have to answer to join [20:24] that are? [20:24] yes Fizmo if you can register,do that.. [20:24] lol right ^^ [20:24] http://www.hackerboard.de/register.php [20:25] Fizmo: did you correct the Wikipedia page? [20:25]