[00:06] MSG: Quit: humhum [07:14] Join: fiveop joined #corewars [08:00] Join: Mizcu joined #corewars [08:21] Join: fiveop_ joined #corewars [08:25] MSG: Ping timeout: 252 seconds [10:25] MSG: [10:41] Join: Mizcu joined #corewars [14:17] MSG: [15:53] Join: Metcalf joined #corewars [15:53] Hi [15:59] I hope everyone has a good Christmas [15:59] * Metcalf waves [15:59] MSG: Quit: mov.i #1,1 [16:22] hrm [18:11] Join: Core29 joined #corewars [18:28] Join: Fluffy joined #corewars [18:28] :) [18:29] hey fluffy [18:29] how goes? [18:32] I've just noticed, that I have my first +200-warrior on 94nop :) [18:34] nice [18:34] And you, already fixed your evolver? [18:36] yeah.. [18:36] but its off while I'm using up the computrons [18:37] we've moved into 6th place :) [18:38] What are you using your computers for? [18:38] 6th place on which hill? [18:39] no.. [18:39] http://www.recmath.org/contest/standings.php [18:42] Interestin task. How long have you already been working on it? [18:45] couple weeks [18:45] I intend to win! [18:47] What algorithm are you using? Do you simple generate coordinates and test them? [18:47] *simply [18:47] no.. [18:47] its a little hard to describe.. [18:47] and I'm hesitant to do it before the contest is over :) [18:48] but its a really stupid algorithm.. and I have a feeling that if we win there are going to be people with much smarter approaches upset :) [18:48] Yes, I can understand that [18:48] (its very effective tho) [18:48] I just wish there could be 3 names on the entry instead of just two.. [18:48] oh well :) [18:49] Why is that? [18:51] because the signup form says only 2 names per entry [18:51] and who is no. 3? [18:53] me.. [18:53] you'll notice the two names on #6 don't include mine :) [18:55] hehe ... I've only skimmed through the table and have seen on Joonas and assumed, that the other person was you [18:55] on->only [18:55] eek! you mentioned he who must not be mentioned! [18:56] Why must he who must not be mentioned not be mentioned? [18:57] cause he yells at me when we mention him [18:57] you don't want to get me in trouble do you?! [18:59] any special reason why he then yells at you? [18:59] I dunno.. you'd have to ask him [18:59] I imagine he's just very private [18:59] and google is forever. [18:59] I don't think it to be such a sacrileg to mention his name [19:00] He is probably right [19:00] thats cause you don't get yelled at :) [19:01] It was part of my decision not to use my real name any longer here [19:03] You've written log_guy. Why don't you change it to replace HWMNBM's name with "He Who Must Not Be Mentioned"? [19:04] because I don't want to bother tuc too much.. [19:04] I've been trying to keep my pesterings to quaterly. [19:05] Then remeber my proposal, when the it is time for your next pestering ;-) [19:05] *remember [19:07] Any while you are on it ... it would be nice to have my real name to be replace by "He Who Must Not Be Mentioned As Well" ;-) [19:08] If not I'll YELL AT YOU ALL THE TIME! [19:08] DID YOU HEAR THAT! [19:08] lol [19:09] you yelling is funny tho.. you're fluffy. [19:10] ME YELLING SHOULD BE THREATENING AND NOT FUNNY [19:10] HARMLESS MIGHT BE OK, BUT NOT FUNNY!! [19:10] awww.. is the cute little fluffy all maaad?! [19:10] isssit that cuewwwte. [19:10] MAD, YOU DON'T KNOW, HOW MAD I CAN BE! [19:11] AND YOU DON'T WANT TO MAKE ME *ANGRY* AND MAD! [19:11] stop trying.. you can't be fluffy and threatening.. [19:11] just doesn't work [19:12] lol [19:12] err .. LOL [19:12] I FORGOT TO YELL! [19:13] Now I know how I can force you to be nice to me! [19:14] I will mention He Who Must Not Be Mentioned's name AND what the M is for!! [19:14] Then he'll yell at you and I don't have to do it myself! [19:14] Nice idea, isn't it? [19:15] heh [19:15] or I could just skin you and serve you as a pre-xmas snack [19:16] hehe ... that is nearly impossible [19:16] It is a loooong way from your tiny country to Berlin [19:17] tiny/ [19:17] ? [19:17] its the second largest country in the world! [19:17] of course.. its virtually all uninhabitable.. [19:18] but thats beside the point! [19:18] It is not "virtually all uninhabitable". It is uninhabitable ;-) [19:18] heh [19:19] Otherweise you'd have more inhabitants [19:19] thats not really true.. because even the good parts are pretty sparsely populated.. [19:19] there's just not that many people who want to live this far north.. [19:19] or that close to the Us without being in the US. [19:20] http://www.lonsteins.com/management_techniques.html [19:20] lol. [19:21] Hey, I'm only kidding. I really love Cananda [19:21] Especially after the last South Park movie ;-) [19:24] yeah.. keep backpeddling.. you've been added to the shitlist.. [19:24] no getting off it now.. [19:24] damn canada hater. [19:26] Hey, I really, really loves the part with Canada invading the US [19:26] *loved [19:28] In any case I swear, that I will never make fun off people, who live in tiny countries like Cananda!!! [19:29] I think the US has more transsexual prostitutes than we have citizens.. its unlikely to work out that way [19:30] More than 32 million transsexuals? [19:32] have you seen their TV shows lately? :) [19:34] No, usually I don't watch any TV shows. Anything special? [19:35] no.. [19:35] US tv is god awful for the most part.. [19:35] I've pretty much stopped watching television completely [19:35] my wife still feels the odd craving to turn on the idiot box.. [19:40] One day I must take the time and watch the News in the US. I'm quite curious what to talk about if they pretend, that the US is the whole world [19:40] (apart from maybe Iraq) [19:40] (and France) [19:40] (and Canada) [19:41] naw.. they're pretty much the center of their world.. [19:42] and the scary part is that the "NEWS" section of the news is actually about 45 seconds long, and the rest is about celeb gossip [19:43] It is awful to know what the future of News here in Germany will be :-( [19:44] Unfortunately they tend to import every bad idea from the US some years after it has become common there [19:45] At least we already had our episode with being the "center of the world" ;-) [19:45] It is still hard for me make jokes about the second world war [19:45] yeah, I think the US is taking some notes from your 1940's era.. [19:47] It is not only them. Sometimes I think, that even our government hasn't learned anything from history. [19:48] It is "terror" and "child pornography" and "even more terror" and they expect everybody to say "yes" to their wet dreams about surveilment [19:48] well.. I'm kinda disgusted by the whole worlds rush to start logging and monitoring all aspects of our life.. [19:48] err ... surveillence [19:48] although, I know for a fact the US has been really hammering on our government to pass surveillence laws.. [19:48] you probably know how it is spelled correctly ;-9 [19:49] I really wish we'd find a government strong willed enough to say "fuck off!" [19:49] because really, what are they going to do? stop trading with us? [19:49] No, but ignoring the US would be a nice idea [19:49] it'll hurt them far more than it'll hurt us.. the only parts of their economy that aren't in the middle of a nose dive are the ones that depend on our resources :) [19:51] I'm just hoping for the day when the duties come off canadian lumber, because that ought to drop the US housing market a fair bit.. [19:52] How much do you (Canada) export to the US? [19:52] which will be funny because of the constant banter we hear about housing being the real growth industry of the US.. [19:52] I mean for their houses [19:52] almost all the lumber comes from here.... [19:52] they've been illegally putting heavy duties on our lumber for the last few years.. [19:52] hehe ... maybe they really should stop trading with out [19:53] Would be nice to see the results [19:53] even tho we win every time we get to the WTO, they just change the wording and do it again.. [19:53] almost all the oil this area produces goes straight south too.. [19:54] Tha won't much longer a problem [19:54] Simply wait until there is no more oil [19:54] gypsum and paper and various metals... cattle, grains.. [19:55] just about everything the US produces has canadian components. [19:57] At the moment I can't think of a product from the US, that I use. [19:57] It is all made somewhere in Asia ;-) [19:57] the Us does better an manufacturing than we do, simply because they've got way way more people to work the factories.. [19:57] yeah.. [19:58] err ... the two Celery processors, that I use [19:58] in alot of cases, we ship stuff south of the boarder, they put it on boats, and then the chinese build stuff out of it, and then send it back to the US, and they ship it back to us [19:58] kinda silly when you think about it. [19:59] Yes, that is why you have to study economics to understand it ;-) [19:59] I think outsourcing is really entertaining.. because when they finally get enough government support to kill it off, or tax it or whatever.. they'll suddenly have a big pool of well trained, now unemployed people sitting in places with huge cheap labour forces.. [20:00] Do you know "Snow Crash" by Neil Stephenson? [20:00] Sounds like start-ups to me. [20:00] yeah.. [20:00] I don't really like any of his stuff except cryptonomicon.. [20:00] Do you remember the part about what is really good in the US? [20:00] Only two things: Pizza and Software [20:01] I could really laugh about that [20:01] heh [20:01] well.. soon it'll just be pizza [20:01] yes, that's what I've thought, too [20:01] and I expect most of the components are made in china anyways :) [20:02] actually, I think most of the software I use is written by people in europe.. [20:02] Then you really should start using PyCorewar [20:02] I think its all the extra vacation days, people have hobbies of writting nice software.. [20:02] ... once I'Ve released it ;-) [20:04] hmm ... do you think, that you have less spare time than we do? [20:05] um.. yeah.. [20:05] how many holiday days are you getting a year? [20:06] nice jobs like mine get you about 15 days a year.. [20:06] most people get 10 days.. [20:06] some people get their vacation time paid out.. [20:06] so they don't get a holiday unless they book time off work.. [20:07] Interesting. I didn't know, that you have that few holiday days [20:07] yeah.. [20:07] But you can be sure, that they are already working on changing that [20:07] here or there? :) [20:08] cause its getting worse in the US.. [20:08] hehe [20:08] *here [20:08] in Germany [20:08] they're cutting back on sick days now too.. [20:08] which is really stupid, because if you're sick, you're just going to make everyone else sick, which results in a loss of productivity.. [20:09] http://www.bryantchoung.com/archives/2005/12/dont_leach_band.shtml [20:09] just to change the subject :) [20:11] Nice idea [20:11] But to really change the subject, you should read http://uncyclopedia.org/wiki/Canada [20:13] grr ... I hate GOogle [20:13] I really hate it [20:13] Look at where my page is, if you search for "score surface" [20:14] heh [20:15] not bad [20:16] what? the canada page? [20:22] no.. your google rank [20:24] Hmm .... I have a google rank ? [20:24] ;-) [20:25] hey.. how come we're at the lowest average age in like 6 [20:25] years on 94nop? [20:25] are we that active? [20:27] Don't know, but the average is climbing at the moment [20:27] I haven't updated the image yet [20:28] jesus.. you point me to your page, but its out of date!? [20:28] what the hell?! [20:28] Maybe it is because nobody has yet found a new strategy to be Koth for a while [20:28] yes, it was likely people using MWR! [20:28] :) [20:28] I didn't do it [20:29] Not me ;-) [20:34] bvowk: It is quite unfriendly of you to say, that my page is out of date ;-) Now I have to start my "big" computer, work through the logs for 94nop, make a new image of the average age, upload it and point out, that it is no longer out of date! [20:34] Quite unfriendly [20:35] ;-) [20:36] And working through the logs is a lot of work. [20:36] There have been hundreds of challenges after the last update [20:36] heh [20:37] you need a faster computer then! [20:37] you realize you could get a machine that'd do about 4x more work in the same case for a couple hundred bux right/ [20:37] likely more than 4.. [20:39] I don't need a faster computer to update the image. [20:39] The problem is, that my current script has a bug and doesn't correctly extract the successful challenges from my emails [20:39] I have to do that part manually [20:40] ah. [20:40] fix the script! :) [20:40] Anyway ... Step 1: Start "big" computer - CHECK [20:41] you know.. the other day I gave away a dual 750 [20:42] Step 1a: Go to JM's page to see, whether he has updated his logs - CHECK [20:42] (no, he hasn't :-( [20:43] I'll buy a new computer after xmas [20:43] around February [20:48] I wholeheartedly recommend an athlon64 x2 :) [20:49] damn those things are cheap for the computrons they put out [20:50] As long as I can make it quiet enough I'll take them :) [20:50] Step 2: Started to update my logfile manually - CHECK [20:50] yeah.. they're pretty quiet.. [20:51] you can get some hugeass copper heatsinks that allow it to be silent [20:51] I've got that in my office here.. very nice.. [20:51] you can't only hear the muted pur of the hard disks and the 120mm low speed fans.. [20:51] maybe 22db? [20:58] Then problem is how much many do I have to spend to make it quiet [21:02] brb [21:02] Part: Fluffy left #corewars [21:03] Join: Fluff1 joined #corewars [21:09] ... only 40 successful challenges left to add [21:16] ... only 30 successful challenges left to add [21:21] ... only 20 successful challenges left to add [21:23] hm ... maybe I should a add a progress bar ;-) [21:23] Nick Change: Fluff1 changed nick to Fluffy [21:39] MSG: Quit: Trillian (http://www.ceruleanstudios.com [21:57] MSG: Ping timeout: 252 seconds [22:24] ... back at updating my log files [22:25] ... only 10 successful challenge left to add [22:31] Step 3: Update the logs - CHECK [22:41] bvowk: http://corewars.jgutzeit.de/history/94nop.en.html :-) [22:48] but I just submitted a warrior and I don't think its on there yet! [22:48] :) [22:48] It has to make it on the hill to be included in the logs [22:48] because only successful challenges age the hill [22:50] A warrior for 94nop? [22:51] no.. I was just fucking with you [22:51] How dare you! [22:51] ;-) [22:55] I've just posted the sources of Harmless Fluffy Bunny to r.g.c. [22:55] It'll die soon anyway [22:56] how did you know I was reading usenet?! [22:56] spying bastard! [22:56] That'll teach you to fuck with me ;-) [22:56] * bvowk tortures fluffy until he confesses to working for the americans [22:57] Do you talk about that other tiny country near Canada? [22:58] * Fluffy ignores bvowk until he has produced his first handwritten AND successful warrior for 94nop [22:58] No more sissy evolving! [23:16] heh [23:16] Took you quite a lot of time to notice ;-) [23:17] I was out getting a snack.. [23:18] If I wouldn't want to get some sleep soon, I would say: "You are going to need it!" [23:18] But of course I wouldn't say such a thing [23:19] Instead I wish you a very fluffy xmas [23:23] * Fluffy waves [23:24] Part: Fluffy left #corewars