[03:55] Join: salah joined #corewars [03:55] hello [03:57] i [03:57] *hi [03:57] what is corewars? [03:57] and what is the game about? [03:59] corewars is a game [03:59] where u write a little program [03:59] what kind of game? [03:59] written in a pseudo assembly language [03:59] typically two of these programs are loaded onto a game board [04:00] and they try and wipe each other out [04:00] sounds fun [04:00] * salah wants to learn assembly [04:01] it is fun [04:01] its not reall assembly [04:01] im just starting again [04:02] i forget how many instructions there are [04:02] i think 12? [04:02] and 8 in the basic version [04:02] okey [04:03] well, it can be some hard for me to begin, since im programming php/mysql/java and just started with writing "hello world" in C++ yesterday [04:03] ah [04:03] well its not that hard really [04:04] cause again this is really simplified [04:04] the game isnt about learning the language so the language is easy [04:04] its about killing the enemy program XD [04:04] and that can be hard [04:04] there are different kinds of programs [04:04] like [04:04] scanners [04:04] imps [04:04] papers [04:04] i forget what they do and stuff [04:04] and bombers [04:04] like the scanner [04:04] will search memory [04:04] for an enemy program [04:05] if it finds evidence of one [04:05] it starts wiping that part of memory [04:05] other programs self replicate their small amount of code in memory [04:05] and bounch their instruction pointer around [04:05] in hopes of running into the enemy program's next instruction and wiping it [04:06] or there are ones that spawn tons of threadds of them self [04:06] and replicate all over [04:06] its really amazing what cna be done [04:06] wow [04:06] this sounds very fun [04:06] where do I download it? I use Ubuntu Linux [04:07] www.koth.org [04:07] thats the main "league" [04:07] a league is here is called a "king of the hill" [04:07] u submit yer program to a hill [04:07] and if it scores high enough against the other programs [04:07] it gets put on the hill [04:07] and one of the other programs gets pushed out [04:08] the true measure of how good your program is, is how long it stays on the hill [04:08] the most popular hill is the 94nop [04:08] i think from www.koth.org u can find links to most things u want [04:08] also [04:08] www.corewar.info is good [04:11] thanks [04:12] i'll check this out tomorrow, it's very late now (clock is 5:12 am) [04:15] lol [04:15] or early? XD [04:16] yeah.. lol [05:32] MSG: Ping timeout: 252 seconds [07:32] Join: Mizcu joined #corewars [08:26] shot down in flames.. [08:27] ....? [08:35] idea didnt work [08:36] o [08:36] :( [12:06] Join: Core29 joined #corewars [12:24] Join: Roy joined #corewars [12:25] h R [12:28] Hi Miz [12:29] MSG: Ping timeout: 252 seconds [12:50] Join: Fluffy joined #corewars [12:50] :) [12:50] * Fluffy is now reading the logs and r.g.c for a while ... [12:51] Not much in the log (HI!) [12:52] r.g.c is active though [12:52] Nice to see it living up again, we have to keep the momentum [12:53] Hmm ... it seems, that I have posted HFB's code too early. It has already aged past 200 :) [12:54] Indeed, now Eccentric is going to be pushed off :( [12:54] Maybe I can still get my first +10000 warrior with HFB ;-) [12:55] Join: Neogryzor joined #corewars [12:55] Hi Neogryzor! [12:55] Seems, that you've been playing around with HFB [12:55] Maybe, its pretty odd, new scanner and papers arrived and its safe(r) now [12:56] At first I was very surprised to see warriors with my name on the hill again altough I haven't send any [12:56] Hi [12:56] I was trying a modiffied version of HFB [12:56] I'm experimenting further with papers too [12:56] .. if you don't mind [12:56] Currently working on this: [12:56] spl 1 [12:56] spl 1 [12:56] spl 1 [12:56] spl @0 , >1313 [12:56] mov.i }-1 , >-1 [12:56] mov.i {-2 , {1 [12:56] spl 2900 , }2353 [12:56] spl 4129 , {3462 [12:56] mov.i }-5 , }-1 [12:56] mov.i #1243 , <1 [12:56] djn.b -2 , #7482 [12:57] Neogryzor: If I don't want you to experimentate with my warrior, I wouldn't publish its sources [12:57] :) [12:57] Neogryzor: But next time you should leave my name out. After you've modified it, it becomes you warrior along [12:57] *alone [12:57] I never suspected it would be so simple... (hfb) [12:58] Roy: Why 1243 in mov.i #1243,<1? [12:58] nor did i about arrow [12:58] No idea.. just a random number :P [12:58] Wait 10 mins... then I publish some further data about HFB [12:58] No indeed, Arrow is also so simple, its nice [13:05] Join: Judodudo joined #corewars [13:05] hi [13:05] Hi Judodudo! [13:05] hello [13:06] Is the '94 standard out of draft yet? [13:06] hi Judo [13:06] hi [13:06] Judodudo: yes [13:06] good [13:07] Judodudo: ' is '94draft without pspace, ' included everything of the draft [13:07] It's just I couldn't find a copy that doesn't say draft browsing around [13:08] Judodudo: ? [13:08] Draft is everything, and 94-nop is the same but with the p-space left out [13:08] I searched '94 draft corewar on google [13:08] http://www.koth.org/info/icws94.html [13:08] Now I tink about it I should have searched r.g.c [13:09] Roy, Neogryzor: I've just posted a little bit more about HFB to r.g.c. [13:09] Still says draft on the top [13:09] Tnx Fluf [13:09] But I'll stop being pedantic [13:09] thanks [13:10] Judodudo: The ICWS no longer exists and that is the most current version [13:10] Fkuffy: nice [13:10] Judodudo: Altough it says draft it is now THE stardard. [13:11] gdgd [13:11] Judodudo: As well as pMARS is probably the reference for all MARS implementations altough its sources are a little hard to read [13:11] yes [13:12] You should take exhaust's sources, if you need a good and fast implementation [13:12] OK [13:13] BTW Roy: When will the next issue of CoreExplorer be out? [13:14] Err.. I think Nenad is in charge about that now [13:15] He was planning on writing more articles this week and probably publish it in one or two weeks [13:15] ok [13:15] I don't know my planning for this week, but hopefully I'll have time to write some more too [13:16] cool [13:16] It's very good [13:16] btw: I've also written a piece of text about Reepicheeps paper, analyzing it and trying to optimize it... I send it to Metcalf for the new CoreWarrior but I don't know when its going to be published :( [13:17] Neogryzor: Could you please stop to use my name, if you send Harmless Fluffy Gremlin. It is your warrior, not mine :) [13:25] haha. It is 95% yours! [13:25] Yes, maybe, but it is quite confusing to see my name on the hill for a warrior, that I haven't sent. [13:26] okay [13:26] :) [13:28] Wow ... look at 94nop. "speed of light" is now koth with 16 point to place 2! [13:28] Thats just crazy.. [13:28] even on a DATed hill it still has 13 points to place 2 [13:29] And I really love HazyLazy C 42 :) [13:29] I could fix that (a little) [13:29] If eccentric is pushed off it will have a even bigger gap! [13:29] The question isn't, whether you could do it. The question is, whether you will or will not do it ;-) [13:30] I will, just wait a little while :) [13:33] I sooo have the feeling I'm going to push of my own old eccentric, but well, you can't stop time [13:34] impressive [13:34] time to go for me [13:34] * Fluffy waves to Neogryzor [13:34] bye! [13:34] Roy: quite close on 94nop [13:34] Merry Chrismas to all and happy redcoding [13:34] * Neogryzor waves [13:35] MSG: Quit: Physical Wreck IRC webscript: http://www.pswclan.com/cgi-bin/irc/irc.cgi [EOF] [13:35] Hmm ... I thought, that HFB might be on Koenigstuhl by now, but it isn't :( [13:35] I'm really curious to see how it scores [13:36] http://www.koth.org/lcgi-bin/warriorinfo.pl?hill94nop:21:taken:1 [13:36] You'll like that if it made it on the hill :-P [13:37] yes, yes, yes, yes, yes!!! [13:37] But it didn't get on the hill... so uhm :-P [13:37] Try to change its constants [13:39] You do it, its just Frantic :-P [13:46] i have to go bye. [13:46] * Judodudo waves [13:46] * Fluffy waves [13:46] MSG: Quit: Chatzilla 0.9.69.1 [Firefox 1.0.7/20050915] [14:56] Hmm ... I'm looking now at the sources of fmars. [14:56] I will be damned, if I cannot take advantage of its ideas for PyCorewar :) [14:57] Nice! [15:01] * Fluffy is away for a while ... working on PyCorewar [15:35] Join: Fizmo joined #corewars [15:35] hi [15:39] Hi Fizmo! [15:42] Hi Jens :) [15:42] Join: Nenad joined #corewars [15:42] hi Nenad [15:42] Hi Nenad! [15:42] Hi [15:45] * Roy is joining in: [15:45] Hi Nenad [15:45] Hi Fizmo [15:46] Hi Roy ;-) [15:46] Hi Fluffy [15:46] (just to continue it ;-) [15:46] Nick Change: Fluffy changed nick to Metcalf [15:46] :) [15:46] (I'm waiting, Roy!) [15:46] not again ffs [15:46] hehe [15:46] Nick Change: Metcalf changed nick to Fluffy [15:47] Join: Metcalf joined #corewars [15:47] DON"T USE MY NAME!! [15:47] MSG: Client Quit [15:47] lol [15:47] Roy: You should change you ip address to make it more real ;-) [15:48] Thats a bit hard to do :) [15:49] How about hijacking John's computer ;-) [15:49] Bribing him might be an option, too ;-) [15:50] Nah.. [15:50] But making a trip to the UK should be the easiest option [15:50] (and probably cheapest) [15:51] 20 dollars or something for me :) [15:51] Dollars? Is that a currency? [15:51] euro, whatever [15:51] How about Euro? It was developed to conquer the world ;-) [15:54] you are wrong, the new worldcash will be Nuyen, created by Zurich-Orbital bank! [15:54] no. SpeedOfLight was developed to conquer the world :) [15:55] (been reading shadowrun again..) [15:56] lol [15:56] still posted another unpublished warrior on r.g.c. ;-) [15:56] Arrow? [15:56] already there, Nenad! [15:56] I think I have too much unpublished warriors [15:56] Bite the Bullet [15:57] a quite interesting stone/imp [15:57] oh. :) I guess I could publish some, too. Lavos, perhaps... [15:57] but don't ask me how I have written this warrior, I can't remember [15:58] I just found it in one of the first optimax directories [15:58] whats so uncommon about that stone? Just a double-spl candy with > [15:58] the stone uses two different bombs [15:58] bombb dat <1, hop [15:58] bomba dat <5334, <2667 [15:58] ... [15:58] * Fluffy is ways for a while again ... [15:58] and that qualifies as uncommon todays? [15:59] the anti-imp bomb is quite nice, because you get some wins against other s/i's [15:59] hmm, don't know. But I haven't seen such a stone before [16:00] Join: Neutrino joined #corewars [16:00] hi [16:00] Fizmo: when will CoreWarrior be published? [16:00] hi [16:00] Hi [16:00] Hi Neutrino [16:00] still arrived in Berlin? [16:00] fizmo : sind vor ner stunde angekommen [16:00] :) [16:01] tomorrow advertisement time for corewar in Berlin :-P [16:01] ich melde dich morgen bei dir [16:01] mich [16:01] ok [16:02] gibt auch nacht tickets für 5 Euro von 0:00 - 6:00 uhr :) [16:05] Fizmo: Next month you'll be in Amsterdam right? Then we can advertise some more! [16:06] :) [16:10] Nenad: I don't know :-/ [16:14] Hmm, my version of HFB does well too! [16:15] Sascha won't like that [16:17] Fizmo: What about fsh94nop-0.3? Is it already finished? [16:17] :) [16:18] not finished. Give me some more time for that :-/ [16:22] Hullabatwo is low on the current 94nop hill... seemed impossible when it was first submitted. it ruled the top of the hill not so long ago [16:23] Well, that sort of thing happens [16:24] Your rezooom idea is nice, btw. although my scanner doesn't score that well (not optimized) - I've managed to remove the weakness of 50% chance to miss that the original had [16:25] Thats cool [16:25] but I have no time to work on it now, so it'll have to wait for a few days [16:26] I've got to go now. see you all soon! bye! [16:26] * Nenad waves [16:27] * Roy waves [16:27] MSG: [16:46] Eeek! what are you guys doing to all my warriors! [16:47] Yes! HFB needs more scanners on the hill :-) [16:59] heya, got my laters UO version on 94nop [16:59] *latest [16:59] well, usually it should be called as unheard-of III [17:00] Then you really should replace it :) [17:04] done ;-) [17:04] I'm away for a while [17:04] Nick Change: Fizmo changed nick to fiz_afk [17:05] hmmm ... who is Dennis? [17:05] Dennis the Menace [17:05] hehe ... no, I mean on 94nop [17:06] i see no Dennis [17:06] still in the queue [17:06] Me neither.. [17:07] Only Fizmo in the queue.. [17:07] Hmm ... Am I dumb [17:07] It was there seconds ago [17:08] hehe ... he's sent his warrior to '94 [17:08] scor 32 [17:08] *score [17:09] Friend of inversed? [17:09] who knows [17:10] In any case I never thought, that HFB would survive this long [17:11] Gotta go, ciao ppl! [17:11] MSG: [17:11] * Fluffy waves too late :( [17:11] MSG: Ping timeout: 252 seconds [17:29] MSG: [17:58] * Fluffy waves [17:58] Part: Fluffy left #corewars [18:05] Join: Fluffy joined #corewars [18:05] Yippie! I've got another xmas present :-) [18:06] The '88-MARS of PyCorewar is now more than twice as fast as pMARS :-) [18:07] I've just finished a little benchmark on my machine: pMARS - 4.0 MIPS, exhaust - 5.3 MIPS, exMARS - 6.4 MIPS, exhaust-ma: 6.9 MIPS, fmars - 10.2 MIPS, PyCorewar: 8.6 MIPS [18:57] Part: Core29 left #corewars [19:13] Join: Roy joined #corewars [19:13] :) [19:13] Nice benchmark results Fluffy! [19:13] Now make a 94nop version (please thank you) [19:14] Then make a draft version ;) [19:14] That is planned, but first I have to make two or three other improvements [19:15] I've simply made a big swith on opcode/a-mode/b-mode [19:15] for every possible '88-instruction [19:15] similar to fmars, but not (yet?) with that big jump-table [19:18] And then I have to make that big test with all '88 warriors from Koenigstuhl fight each other [19:18] I hope, that I get the same results as pMARS [19:21] I hope so too (for you) [19:22] What does the big jump-table do in fmars..? 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