[00:07] MSG: Read error: Connection reset by peer [00:10] Join: johnkw joined #corewars [00:10] happy MS sploitpak day [00:10] hullo [00:12] hi [00:13] had to ms sec update my dad's xp today. [03:13] MSG: Quit: leaving [04:12] Join: pkhuong joined #corewars [04:20] Join: Mizcu joined #corewars [06:36] MSG: Ping timeout: 252 seconds [06:57] Join: datagram joined #corewars [07:04] Join: brx joined #corewars [07:04] good morning. [07:23] Join: fiveop joined #corewars [08:05] MSG: Ping timeout: 252 seconds [08:52] Join: willvarfa joined #corewars [09:17] MSG: Quit: Chatzilla 0.9.68.5.1 [Firefox 1.5/undefined] [10:17] serenity. good movie. I recommend it [10:41] Join: Roy joined #corewars [10:42] Yay, www.redcode.nl is online..! No corewar information (yet?) but a website about my birthday :) [10:51] MSG: [11:48] Join: brx_ joined #corewars [11:51] MSG: Ping timeout: 252 seconds [11:53] Join: Roy joined #corewars [12:05] Join: brx joined #corewars [12:07] MSG: Read error: Operation timed out [12:08] MSG: Ping timeout: 252 seconds [12:10] Join: brx_ joined #corewars [12:11] MSG: Ping timeout: 252 seconds [13:03] Join: Roy joined #corewars [13:12] hey Roy [13:12] Nick Change: brx_ changed nick to brx [13:13] hi [13:16] to be able to call (phone) my router from somewhere in this town, calling through to another number somewhere within germany using dsl telephony for no costs, nifty [13:17] nice [13:18] this router/telephony thingy/dsl modem is wonderful [13:18] just wait for VoIP [13:19] it is voip. [13:23] MSG: Ping timeout: 252 seconds [13:25] Well yeah, but VoIP phones instead of mobile phones [13:25] So you can call for free at for example all Mac Donalds :) [13:26] ah :) [13:26] I like the alarm clock feature of the router [13:27] (using some/all of the phones) [13:29] Hehe, that would just bug me :) [13:29] * Roy likes to sleep [13:30] same here.. suffering from sleep deprivation again [14:51] MSG: [15:21] Join: Nenad joined #corewars [15:21] Hi [15:21] Hi Nenad [15:23] Don't kill Hulla nor Eccen :) [15:23] heh. my oneshot apparently did well :) [15:24] yeah! [15:26] :) its scores are very nice balanced, it doesn't feed on one or two warriors... I'm satisfied now :) [15:28] wow. look at the 94draft hill... the bpttpm 9 warriors are within a little more than a point [15:41] I hate your oneshot.. [15:41] :-) [15:42] :) [15:42] yes. both Hulla and Ecc lose to it [15:42] With a well placed attack you can kill Hulla now :) [15:42] But then I'll submit H3, maybe its better.. [15:42] I don't intend to [15:43] not today, anyway :) [15:43] have to go and learn for some tests [15:43] I wanted to try just this warrior today [15:43] Ok, good luck! [15:43] I coded it in 10-15 mins while I was taking a break [15:43] pfft.. [15:45] btw, I still vote for August [15:45] Yes, most people say august.. begin or late august? [15:46] middle August :) [15:47] The weekend of middle august... sounds good to me :) [15:47] :) [15:50] I've got to go... bye! [15:50] * Nenad wabes [15:50] MSG: [15:50] * Roy waves too [15:50] MSG: [16:57] Join: Metcalf joined #corewars [16:57] Hi [17:00] heya met [17:00] How's the circle thing going bvowk? [17:01] 3rd place.. [17:01] running out of time.. don't know if we'll win :/ [17:01] I hope you are saving some good results to submit at last minute. [17:01] So the competitors don't know which number of circles to concentrate their efforts on [17:02] You're welcome to check if my entries beat yours ;-) [17:02] we don't have the records for most of the top half :) [17:02] heh [17:02] do you have any entries? [17:02] Yes [17:02] I don't see metcalf on the scoreboard tho [17:02] My larger entries aren't very good yet. My smaller entries aren't too bad [17:03] Look about 70th :-( [17:03] Just below Roy [17:03] oh.. you are there.. [17:03] yeah.. we've got records from 5->26 + 29,30 [17:04] got any records met? how are you generating? :) [17:04] MicroGP is high on nano with a new entry [17:04] No records, generating by hand! [17:05] I discovered the contest to late to write a program. I would have managed okay if it was something simpler. [17:05] Like fitting squares, that would be easier to code [17:05] Hmmm... what is the record for 5? [17:06] I've got 9.0025911607357551850809894243141284254041 [17:07] the record is around 9.0014 [17:07] Hmmm... not far off [17:07] generating by hand! you madman! :) [17:07] hrm.. [17:07] maybe I should let you look at our bigger configs that we're stuck on and see if you can optimize :) [17:08] I am impressed by Roy's 50 circles generated by hand. [17:08] we have been using heavy applications of computrons to get things right.. [17:08] Are you anywhere close to 155 for 50 circles? [17:08] 155?! [17:08] Hmmm... okay 207 then ;-) [17:08] the records somewhere about 223 [17:09] And Roy managed 234 by hand, impressive. [17:09] nice [17:09] it took us a LONG time on many computers to get past 234 [17:10] Have you figured which ones to concentrate you efforts on over the last couple of days to gain most points? [17:11] 31->50 :) [17:11] I think we're pretty close on 50 [17:11] and 33 is really tight.. [17:12] Have you voted for the next contest? [17:15] I haven't.. [17:16] I think joonas did [17:16] I'm just deciding now [17:26] There's probably someone who hasn't submitted any solutions yet, who is waiting until last minute to do it [17:34] Join: Fizmo joined #corewars [17:34] hi [17:34] Hi Christian [17:36] hi John [17:36] I've had to move house recently :-( [17:36] :( [17:38] some new warriors are now on koen [17:39] I saw :-) [17:39] Kline pushed me off the hill :-( [17:40] really tough papers he sent [17:41] I'm curious about it [17:52] hrm [17:52] Join: Nenad joined #corewars [17:52] Hi Christian, John [17:53] Hi Nenad [17:55] Hi Nenad [17:58] Join: katafutr joined #corewars [17:59] Hi Katafutr [17:59] Hi katafutr [18:04] hi [18:05] hi [18:08] Nenad: Nice oneshot :) [18:08] MSG: Ping timeout: 252 seconds [18:08] Join: Nenad joined #corewars [18:10] Fizmo: how much stronger is the new nop fsh? [18:10] in terms of difference in score of the warrior being optimized [18:12] Bvowk: François Glineur in 4th place hasn't submitted any improvements for 1 week. I bet he is saving them until last minute :-( [18:12] JM: what are you guys talking about? [18:12] http://www.recmath.org/contest/standings.php [18:12] hmm, I didn't compared this much, I think it depends on the strategy [18:13] did you upload the list of the scores of warriors in the fsh when fighting each other (the final rankings) [18:13] met: he might just be tapped out [18:13] :-) [18:14] no, not yet. [18:14] But a similar fsh is already uploaded [18:15] btw, did you think about the weighed optimization? [18:15] http://www.corewar.info/optimax/94nop/ [18:15] weighting the scores for each strategy? [18:16] I've discussed this issue with Sascha and I hope that it will implemented in the next optimax version [18:17] Join: Roy joined #corewars [18:17] := using the respective strength of each warrior (according to some criteria (for example, its place in that score table mentioned above)) and multiply the score of your warrior against it with some factor before calculating the arithemtic mean [18:17] hi ya'll [18:17] Hi Roy (again) [18:18] Fizmo: something like the weighed Koenigstuhl - scores against better warriors would be worth more [18:19] JM: I didn't do it completely by hand, I programmed a little application to visualise everything, it just shows all the circles and you can move them around :) [18:19] who cares if his pws beats the hell out of Clockwork that has optimax score of 116? But you do want to have a good score against Hullabaloo. [18:19] Metcalf: do you use bvowk's computation power to solve the problems? [18:19] so, weighed scoring could be useful, IMHO [18:19] no, but that's a nice idea [18:19] hi Roy [18:20] Nenad: well, that's the reason why I would like to implement weigthed scores by strategies [18:20] I'm thinking of making a simple form+database where everybody can upload their warriors and search them (by name/author/strategy/hill)... would be quite easy to make.. [18:20] what circles? [18:21] katafutr: http://www.recmath.org/contest/index.php [18:21] Fizmo: congrats on Arrows score at 94nopKoenig. It rates really high for a scanner [18:21] is it fun? :) [18:22] yes :) [18:22] I like especially the 10% and 15% scores [18:22] Hi Roy [18:22] Fiveop: no [18:23] there's only this one task? [18:23] Fizmo: I've sent a couple of warrios to C.Birk to test them against the hill. ... I may publish some of them if they do well enough [18:23] It looks that Last Judgement will be seen soon under the top 10 [18:23] have a look to 10% [18:23] 1. Arrow [18:23] 2. Last Judgement [18:24] is it hard? :) [18:24] and is it computationally intensive? [18:24] Have a look at the normal mode :-) Hulla/Halcyon (yaaay!) [18:24] I'm making my entries by hand, just testing them at http://www.recmath.org/contest/test.php [18:24] hey, cool. It's online now. 6th on koen 94nop :-P [18:25] It look that I have the highest positioned scanner and stone/imp now :-P [18:25] Fizmo: I thought that you'd include WaterDragon in fsh03? [18:25] Try entering "-1 4.5 1 1 1 3.5 4 1 1 -2.5 -3 1" on the test page for an example [18:26] Well uhh well uhh I'm first uhh on 94nop/top50/nano and the odd hill :-) [18:27] Join: Mizcu joined #corewars [18:28] Hi Mizcu [18:28] Hi Mizcu [18:28] I might be offline in a couple of seconds, everything hangs except IRC now.. [18:28] Hi miz [18:28] hi peeps [18:29] Nenad: yes I was thinking about using it. It's quite painfull to decide which use to fsh and which not. I tried to be as divergent as possible if the scores are good enough [18:29] Argh this is so annoying, nothing works except this window.. [18:29] The most important one ;-) [18:30] Hurray, its working again (a bit) [18:30] I'm going to blame.... my virusscanner for being to agrassive [18:30] *agressive [18:31] I've got to go now. bye. [18:31] * Nenad waves [18:31] MSG: [18:31] * Fizmo waves [18:32] * Metcalf waves [18:33] Roy: and after Hulla/Halcyon 4 times my name :-P [18:33] Hehe so? :-) [18:33] I like much more the 10% scores :-P [18:33] I'm waiting for someone to push hulla of the hill, time for Hulla3 [18:37] Hmm, just got a email, the first week in august is available for the ICC2006.. [18:37] I'm wondering about John's paper, because it scores somehow strange [18:37] Magic Snap [18:37] :-) [18:37] 20% win against Klines 'magic' paper [18:38] That can't be all coming from a different/other qscan [18:38] there are significant amount of wins for paper vs. paper [18:38] Maybe its a scan>paper! [18:39] WOW, John.... [18:40] heh, after inversed paper posting on rgc I optimized my LP paper Mufineer against 94nop [18:40] It could do well..! [18:40] got up to 80% wins against some few paper but scores horrible against all scanner [18:42] What do you guys think about a searchable warrior archive? isn't that what people wanted some time ago? [18:43] heh, that would be pretty cool, but also searchable by strategy or components [18:44] search string: Schmidt, scanner, qscanner [18:44] result: Arrow, Jinx2, Speeed..... [18:45] search string: Rijn, scanner, qscanner [18:45] result: none :-P [18:45] ;-) [18:45] (Lux!) [18:45] ? [18:45] ah, yes [18:46] Have you seen that warrior..? [18:46] :) [18:48] yes, on koen [19:34] brx, you mustve seen this one already, but nevertheless: http://unix.rulez.org/~calver/pictures/beer_solution.jpg [19:35] what a great idea (shruk...) [19:38] ok, gotta go nw [19:38] * Fizmo waves [19:38] * Roy waves [19:38] CU soon ;) [19:38] :) [19:38] bye [19:38] MSG: [19:42] * Metcalf waves [19:56] Time to go [19:56] * Metcalf waves [19:56] MSG: Quit: mov.i #1,1 [20:01] MSG: [20:27] MSG: [22:05] MSG: Quit: humhum [22:07] Join: pkhuong joined #corewars [22:16] get back to work on circles pk! [22:16] * bvowk cracks the whip! [22:18] MSG: Ping timeout: 252 seconds [22:21] http://www.6v6gt.com/humor/megaflicks.jpg [22:28] MSG: Quit: katafutr [22:33] Join: katafutr joined #corewars [23:28] Part: katafutr left #corewars