[00:23] MSG: [03:21] Join: brx_ joined #corewars [03:25] MSG: Ping timeout: 252 seconds [07:35] MSG: Ping timeout: 252 seconds [07:40] Nick Change: brx_ changed nick to brx [07:41] Join: datagram joined #corewars [08:00] Join: Roy joined #corewars [08:13] Join: Mizcu joined #corewars [10:01] good morning guys. [10:01] mornin [10:01] a beautiful morning indeed :) [10:01] yes, -20c [10:02] you live in the south of finland, don't you? [10:02] y [10:02] it got -40 in the north [10:02] yes. [10:02] -20c are temperatures they get near oslo already [10:03] I enjoy jogging in the mornings when I am there in winter :) [10:04] after a few minutes your lungs feel like ice blocks [10:19] after a sprinkle minutes your lungs feel like ice blocks [10:21] heh still playing with that thing ;) [10:22] I like "megalopolis" for "city" [10:23] I will make it follow entry box code when caching, and maybe those "see also" links [10:24] So [10:24] I'm painting in watercolor for the first time [10:24] then I could also begin mining webster.com . rather boring actually, I am only interested to see if there are any deadends when following related words [10:24] Going to try to get some chinese techniques down so that I can paint kick ass fish and birds [10:24] datagram: life sucks [10:25] brx, That bottle of vodka isn't looking so bad now is it [10:25] :P [10:25] I prefer whiskey, but I get it. [10:25] brx: not everyone shares your view [10:25] And wow [10:25] Mizcu: you do.. [10:25] You guys are suckers [10:25] Want to know the temp here in sunny california? [10:26] datagram: I dislike warm temperatures.. [10:26] "too much" [10:26] 43 F [10:26] Here is great weather, for the most part [10:26] Never stupid cold, and only for a month is it real hot, but even then never more than 105F or so [10:27] No tornados...no hurricanes...no snow (good and bad) [10:27] Every once in a while an earthquake, but that's a good trade for not having a tornado come and blow everything away every 6 months [10:27] What are the natural disasters like over in finland? [10:28] killer bees and giant ants approaching from south every year.. [10:28] there aint much n-disasters around here [10:28] Roy: this channel has left a stain on my internet record already. [10:28] No earthquakes or anything like that? [10:28] mostly snow pulling electric wires down, and few mini-tornados here and there [10:28] I see [10:28] That's not so bad...if it weren't cold as hell [10:29] It was funny I was in Canada for the holidays, and everyone told me I was going to freeze my ass off [10:29] But I went...and it wasn't cold.. [10:29] he lives in the south, only -20c in winter [10:29] The girl I was with said I brought like 20 degrees of weather with me :P [10:30] well, under Finland is the oldest and most stable (whats the word.. translator cant find it)-- rock? [10:30] I see [10:30] I'm under a major fault line [10:30] but we haven't had a major earthquake for about 10 years [10:30] how is that line called? [10:30] San Andreas Fault [10:31] that's right. it's my fault [10:31] the one that will really have a blast in next 100 years [10:31] Mizcu: and it is san andreas' fault [10:31] Hehe [10:31] I'll be dead or living somewhere else by then [10:32] So I'm not too concerned [10:32] your consciouness will have been uploaded to an external memory device [10:32] I will be called wintermute [10:32] And you will all tremble before me [10:33] * brx thinks [10:33] that short story.. [10:33] for a breath I tarry? [10:33] You do not know Wintermute? [10:34] It's from a book [10:34] the wintermute i know is a group from Shadowrun.. [10:34] datagram: no. [10:34] Wintermute is the name of an AI in Neuromancer [10:34] The book that started the whole computer hacker "cyberpunk" genre [10:35] yah, quick check to wikipedia showed it [10:35] yes I googled. from the found pages there are also references to the short story I named [10:35] I'd check it out if it's available in your languages/countries [10:35] Also Ender's Game is really good [10:36] So I'm reading this book [10:36] And it is telling me all the symbolic meanings of objects in chinese paintings [10:36] Its interesting [10:37] *y* are the chinese obsessing about dr*awn* symbols anyway? [10:38] I am gonna venture into chinatown sometime this weekend to a) hit on a large number of asian girls b) buy some nice shuan paper [10:38] *y* are the chinese obsessing about dr*awn s*ymbols anyway? [10:38] are some of them goodlooking? :) [10:38] Dude asian girls are hoooooot [10:39] "dude", I'm partly asian and I like only a tiny minority of asian girls. [10:39] and the minority's majority is surprisingly based in korea [10:39] ...why? [10:39] Heh, korean girls are good [10:39] I like all the light skinned asian girls [10:40] I like asian girls, brx is partly asian and would like finnish girls. Go figure [10:40] Not big on filipino and such [10:40] Hehe, I think that's how it works [10:40] exactly [10:40] White guys always like asian girls [10:40] datagram: korean girls are among the ugliest [10:40] datagram: ask *anyone* [10:40] Well the korean girls *I've* met have been adorable [10:40] however, those "goodlooking" korean girls are special [10:41] brx: http://irc-galleria.net/ <- some wankmaterial for you. No, even though its "irc" gallery, only about 5-10% of users really use irc. [10:41] Mizcu: why thank you. [10:41] datagram: don't get me wrong, those asian girls I like, I love. [10:41] http://www.deviantart.com/view/27843112/ [10:41] The girl in the middle is the one I just met [10:42] After the tragic wtfery of last night, and the fact that she likes me, it's going good. [10:43] she's not bad. [10:43] Heh [10:43] Mizcu: I like the cookie [10:43] I have an asian friend and he always despises the asian girls I like [10:44] But since I have a thing for asians, I just tell him add 4 to whatever he scores them as. Relativity rocks. [10:44] Go einstein! [10:44] datagram: I don't particularly like her eyes and the face is typical korean blocky, but not as bad as usually [10:44] Haha [10:46] Just +4 it :P [10:46] datagram: I am part filipino, part german actually. [10:47] Cool [10:47] I'm italian [10:47] * brx looks for some interesting links [10:49] I have a few issues with my heritage. I don't like all the filipino bonding going on everywhere for example. [10:50] ? [10:51] datagram: two filipinas meeting on the street, strangers actually, they hug and start chattering like long friends, then they have a big celebration together, inviting friends and family of both sides. [10:52] datagram: they have just gathered mass. [10:52] Why is that problematic? [10:52] because if you grow up in such an environment, "family" becomes a weird concept [10:53] at least if you happen to see contrast [10:53] and everywhere you go as a young kid the "el guapo" talk [10:54] at least if you are partially german or anything else. [10:54] you are only referred to as "el guapo" [10:54] and those big smiles drive you insane [10:55] I see [10:55] Being italian means I have a lot of family but I am inclined to secret not want to talk to most of them [10:56] secretly* [10:56] yes, sure. [10:56] actually I am pretty open about the crimes of my family. [10:57] doesn't concern me. strangers treating you as if you were a distant relative and you go: "who the fuck are you? I don't know you, leave me alone" [10:57] Heh [10:58] and the girls are mostly ugly. [10:59] : / [10:59] apart from some exceptions, who are only phil to some degree. mostly spanish/german etc influences [10:59] those are cute [11:00] one of the cutes girls I knew was norwegian/chinese/phil [11:00] Curious combination [11:00] the norwegian part brings the cleavage and some facial corrections [11:01] Hehe [11:02] there are certain advantages you have here when not being completely german. you are automagically marked as being "mysterious". [11:03] while retaining many of the common characteristics of a western european, like a nice nose. [11:03] :P [11:04] the typical phil attribute is not "mysterious" however. it is "familiar" or "simple" [11:06] :P [11:06] Well, here in LA we have most all cultures [11:07] and the girls have fake breasts. [11:07] Interestingly enough that doesn't both 99% of the men here [11:07] If I can see, touch, and bite them: they're real enough. [11:08] they look stupid and feel fake. not comfy. [11:09] bother* [11:32] Join: Core29 joined #corewars [11:44] Join: fiveop joined #corewars [12:28] I don [12:28] 't care :) [12:30] * brx sighs [12:31] does anyone know an interesting browser game in need for a bot? [12:31] uhm.. [12:31] that might prove to be fun. [12:32] you could build a MUD-bot..! [12:33] will get kicked too quickly. [12:33] account deletion. [12:33] Maybe there are muds which allow bots..? [12:33] I once knew a game named uhm.. Bolo! that was fun, programming your own aid-bot :) [12:34] That was encouraged [12:34] I doubt there are such muds [12:35] you could try Bolo instead, google it [12:35] http://www.mudconnector.net/mud-bin/simple_search.cgi?Mode=MUD&mud=SMAUG [12:36] Heh nice [12:36] Bots allowed [12:36] "Min. # of Players Online: Under 10" [12:37] Well, thats what you get, but if you encourage other coders to do the same, compete for the best bot, you might spark life there [12:42] .. heh, no way. [12:44] Roy: http://www.opencyc.org/announce/firstCycPrizes [12:45] Ah, what is it? [12:45] (working at the same time, not much time to read everything) [12:45] Ah, a commonsense system.. [12:46] call for papers contest about cyc [12:49] MSG: Ping timeout: 252 seconds [12:53] So, any plans what to do with it and then going to write a paper? [12:55] no, I got that link yesterday and thought I might share with you since I am definitely not trying [12:56] hehe [13:07] Cyc sounds very comprehensive [13:10] Damnable fish [13:10] Not sure if this one central fish is good enough... [13:10] To draw more fish or not? [13:25] MSG: Ping timeout: 252 seconds [13:36] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/YOU_FM [13:57] Join: Roy joined #corewars [13:57] hrm [13:57] hrm [13:57] somebody decided to change the firewall :) (during the middle of the day) [13:58] you got disconnected again? [13:58] I see [13:58] So yeah, disconnected :( [13:58] my dworak is getting better and better [13:58] hrm, I hate this chair, my elbows hurt after a days work [13:59] You typing dvorak now? :) [13:59] although I actually never use it [13:59] You should...! [13:59] why? [13:59] and yes I am [14:02] Why? because its kinda cool :) [14:02] is it? [14:02] hrb [14:03] I don't like it [14:04] I hate having to keep my hands in one position only [14:04] I have never done that [14:06] hehe [14:23] MSG: Read error: Connection reset by peer [15:06] Join: Fluffy joined #corewars [15:06] :) [15:07] hello there [15:08] I'm starting to feel like world's most stupid person. [15:09] what happened [15:09] For more than a week I'm trying to implement a parser [15:09] for "normal" warrior files [15:09] i.e. it should be able to parse everything, that pMARS can [15:09] having trouble with the preprocessor? [15:10] yes [15:10] those damn EQUs [15:10] * brx smiles [15:10] Let's me guess ... with LISP is it quite simple. Right? [15:11] * brx wonders if pmars allows FOR ROF EQU combinations but doubts it [15:12] well actually, EQUs were not that much of a concern. I had more trouble doing the preproc "loops" smoothly. [15:12] FOR/ROFs are quite easy as soon as I can savely handle multiline EQUs [15:13] But unfortunately mutiline EQUs can contain almost everything ... [15:13] from partial instructions to nested loops :-( [15:14] oh, multiline equs. I don't think I have eben bothered with them [15:15] I don't think I have ever seen a multiline equ. actually i have never heard of it. [15:15] imp2 EQU mov 0, 2 [15:15] EQU mov 0,2 [15:15] yes. never saw that :) [15:16] s/saw/seen [15:16] Maybe I should simply ignore it [15:17] and allow only for math. expressions for EQUs [15:17] That should cover most cases [15:18] hey, thank you, brx :-) [15:18] That's the solution :) [15:18] Why should I want to solve a problem, if I can redefine the problem :))) [15:19] Now I only have to catch recursive definitions [15:24] Yup, seems to work :) [15:24] I should have talked to you sooner, brx :) [15:41] that's right. brx embodies the principles of "worse is better" [15:42] sorry, had to store away some foodstuff for the coming 8 days [15:42] 16 pizzas, loads of "heat me up, gulp me down" curry [15:42] oranges [15:42] of course the spraypaint for my keyboard and case mod [15:43] spraypaint? [15:43] No, I don't want to know :) [15:44] I was thinking that a black monitor screen would look real nice [15:44] switch it off [15:44] then your screen is almost black :) [15:44] almost.. [15:45] hmm ... do you know any easy way to catch recursive definitions [15:46] like "x EQU (x+1)" or "x EQU test ... test EQU x"? [15:46] I know what you mean. sure, just resolve a fixed amount of times and if some labels are not gone there is a circular [15:46] :) [15:47] yes, that's what I have tought, too, but that doesn't sound very effective [15:47] any other ideas? [15:47] yes [15:47] build a network [15:47] a graph :) [15:47] I mean [15:48] and then look for loops, right? [15:48] make it directed. [15:48] Join: Neogryzor joined #corewars [15:48] Hi Neo :) [15:48] if me has connection to you and you have connection to me go "bleh" [15:48] hello [15:49] hello neo [15:49] brx: nice idea [15:49] Neo: A while ago you've said, that you couldn't decompress a file from my hoempage [15:49] * brx shrugs [15:49] Fluffy: do you want to tune in my live stream? :) [15:49] s/in/into :) [15:49] Fluffy: I only have an ISDN connection [15:50] oh, that's right [15:50] Neogryzor: What was the exact problem [15:51] Fluffy: Let me try again [15:52] brx: what should I want to it anyway? [15:52] Fluffy: excuse me? [15:52] could you give me the link, please? [15:52] . [15:52] .m,. [15:52] Neogryzor: corewars.jgutzeit.de/score_surfaces/index.en.html ? [15:53] brx: why would I want to tune into your live stream? [15:53] Could you write the link, please? [15:53] rt [15:53] Neogryzor: Last time you've only said, that you could decompress a data file for the score surfaces, but you haven't written which :-( [15:54] Fluffy: I am good. [15:54] Neogryzor: The main page is at http://corewars.jgutzeit.de/score_surfaces/index.en.html [15:54] brx: If you say so [15:55] Fluffy: no teasing, please [16:11] Neogryzor: If you have problems again, just send an email to :-) [16:14] MSG: Quit: Physical Wreck IRC webscript: http://www.pswclan.com/cgi-bin/irc/irc.cgi [EOF] [16:22] brb [16:22] Part: Fluffy left #corewars [16:24] Join: Fluffy joined #corewars [16:27] MSG: [16:51] Join: Core29 joined #corewars [16:58] the problem is the noodles, can those kids make noodles to actually fit the soup? [17:00] Join: Fizmo joined #corewars [17:02] Hi Fizmo :) [17:02] hi Jens [17:02] wie geht's Dir? [17:03] ehrm, how are you? [17:03] hehe [17:03] Quite well [17:03] (I'm only feeling a little bit stupid because I couldn't write a decent parser :-) [17:03] And you? [17:04] quite ok [17:04] on sunday I'll travel to Amsterdam :) [17:04] :) [17:04] hope to meet Roy next week [17:05] How long will you stay? [17:07] until thursday [17:07] Join: Neogryzor joined #corewars [17:08] hi again [17:08] :) [17:09] hmm ... my pumpkin soup is almost ready [17:09] Sorry, i had problems with this wireless connection [17:09] Neogryzor: No problem :) [17:09] hi Neo [17:10] hi Fizmo [17:10] Fluffy: Now i don't have problems to decompress the data... :) [17:11] Neogryzor: Then everything is fine. [17:13] btw guys, did you see inversed new s/i? [17:14] interesting.... [17:15] it is quite tough. I suspect it uses an a+b-imp launcher [17:15] mov.i #1,<1 doesn't hurt it much [17:16] yes, a a+b imps would make it very strong, but dat bomb should still hurt him in this way [17:19] ohh, where is Mandragora? [17:20] uh, uh ... [17:20] JOHN... why sent you a scanner two times on the hill... [17:20] :( [17:21] anyway, it was still too sensible against scanner :-/ [17:22] an major weakness in clear/imps [17:22] That was a SD-clear+imp, right? [17:22] yes [17:23] still available on koen and fsh94nop0.3 [17:25] * Neogryzor is testing those imps on the hill [17:28] Sorry about Black Knight... :-/ [17:29] MAG is certainly vulnerable to dat <2667,<5334 bombs [17:37] Join: Metcalf joined #corewars [17:37] Hi [17:37] hi Metcalf [17:38] Hi Neo [17:38] It has been a long time since we've been here at the same time [17:38] I wish I could remember what I wanted to ask you [17:39] to me? [17:40] Yes, I wanted to ask something, but now I can't remember what :-( [17:42] hrmmmmm [17:42] hi Johnnnnn [17:43] Join: Neutrino joined #corewars [17:43] hi [17:43] Hi John! [17:43] Hi Neutrino! [17:43] Hi Neutrino [17:43] hi Neutrino [17:43] hi [17:48] MSG: Ping timeout: 252 seconds [17:53] MSG: [17:54] hrm. [17:56] heh. shoutcast tv channel streaming saddam propaganda and anti bush stuff. [17:56] http://tv.vunet.org/ [18:10] MSG: Read error: Connection reset by peer [18:18] p/i: jmp bsilk [18:18] s/i: jmp stone [18:18] damn! [18:20] lol [18:21] MSG: Quit: Physical Wreck IRC webscript: http://www.pswclan.com/cgi-bin/irc/irc.cgi [EOF] [18:21] lol [18:21] see you soon Neo [18:22] Join: NeoClumsy joined #corewars [18:22] grrr [18:23] Hi NeoClumsy ;-) [18:23] Nice nick :) [18:23] hehe [18:25] * NeoClumsy wonders why when you click accidentally the mouse, there is a "close window" button below [18:25] lol [18:25] MSG: Read error: Connection reset by peer [18:25] See? :) [18:25] lol [18:26] see you soon Fluffy [18:26] hope I won't be pushed off the irc too [18:26] * NeoClumsy waves to Pluffy [18:28] Join: Fluffy joined #corewars [18:28] * Fluffy is clumsy, too [18:29] lol [18:58] ok, gotta go now [18:58] * Fizmo waves [18:58] MSG: [19:04] * Fluffy waves, too [19:04] Part: Fluffy left #corewars [19:05] * NeoClumsy waves late [19:06] gotta go too [19:06] MSG: Quit: Physical Wreck IRC webscript: http://www.pswclan.com/cgi-bin/irc/irc.cgi [20:46] Join: Roy joined #corewars [21:22] hello roy. [21:38] hi [21:38] Hrm, my sister is home from Austria [21:38] I enter my room: tv gone :-O [21:39] "My tv is still in austria, so I borrow yours ok? you don't use it so much anyway" [21:40] I don't use it the addictive way as she does, but I watch tv...! [22:07] heh [22:15] MSG: [22:55] MSG: Ping timeout: 252 seconds [22:57] Join: datagram joined #corewars [23:12] Heh, planter continues to climb 94b [23:12] : )