[01:01] MSG: [02:12] MSG: Quit: leaving [07:05] MSG: Ping timeout: 252 seconds [07:12] Join: datagram joined #corewars [12:58] Join: Fluffy joined #corewars [12:58] :) [13:02] In case anybody is intrested. I've started to test the score surface client. [13:03] ... and if somebody would like to test it, too ... just tell [13:14] Join: brx joined #corewars [13:14] Hi brx :) [13:15] hello Stuffy [13:15] * Fluffy kicks brx [13:15] Do you still want to test the score surface client? [13:15] bsg is being shown in german television [13:15] yes [14:13] MSG: Ping timeout: 252 seconds [14:35] brx: It works under WinXP perfectly. I just got the second set of data :) [14:35] Fluffy: dissc randomly deleted files in my homeidr [14:36] brx: Really? [14:36] Fluffy: positive. [14:36] err [14:36] I don't think so [14:37] How can it do that, if it only reads files [14:37] you ahve the source [14:37] :) [14:37] grr ... [14:37] * Fluffy kicks brx [14:38] patch 7 should arrive in a few minutes [14:38] :) [14:39] I think I can let it run for a while longer [14:39] Would be nice, if you'll that after the test is finished. [14:39] ah you are not interested in this data? [14:39] At the moment there are only 256 patches (i.e. one score surface) available. [14:40] brx: I'm interested in the data. It is a new score surface [14:41] You're right. Let it run as long as it works fine :) [14:41] That's what the test is all about. To test everything :) [14:41] hai hai [14:42] brx: wrong language? ;-) [14:43] brb [14:43] By the way, you are doing a score surface of YAP vs. Muskrat, but this time YAP uses a jmp instead of the djn.f [16:00] brx: 10 patches completed :) [16:23] Fluffy: mh? [16:23] sorry I was gone longer than expected [16:23] no problem [16:23] what can I say. we have a new coffee machine [16:23] :) [16:24] (I had to test all the different settings and compare the tastes) [16:24] and test different kinds of beans [16:24] hmm ... coffee ... not, what I usually drink [16:24] :) [16:25] I've worked on a little script, that download all data create a (possibly partial) image from the data. [16:25] Fluffy: I like feeling nervous [16:25] because of the coffee? [16:25] yes [16:26] I drink coffee until I start shaking [16:26] I like it :) [16:26] Try to get more computers, which then run the client :) [16:27] by the way: At the moment I'm compiling erlang ... takes quite a while [16:27] I imagine it does [16:27] it has much.. stuff. [16:28] But it is nothing compared to compiling X Windows on a 486DX-66 [16:28] I've done it once and will never do it again [16:28] how long did it take? [16:28] more than 2 days I think [16:29] I've done it a long time again ... shortly after I've started with LFS [16:29] *ago [16:30] 2 days. :( [16:30] If I had to install LFS again on such a slow computer I'd settle now for a cross-compile :) [16:57] hmm ... bvowk should be here [16:57] That way we'd probably have more clients :) [17:02] probably [17:03] maybe we should ask log_guy ;-) [17:06] :) [17:29] I am going to stop calculating patches now [17:30] no problem [17:30] well in 10 minutes after patch 8 is finished [17:30] That's what I had in mind. You start and kill the client, whenever you want it :) [17:31] it would be nice to be able to upload partial patches [17:31] so that you *really* can kill it whenever you like to [17:31] hehe ... I'm already working on that [17:31] but on a slightly different solution [17:32] I'll make the client save the data every 100 pairs and you can restart the calculation as the data isn't too "old" [17:33] *as->if [17:33] too old = nobody else has worked on the patch yet [17:34] err ... you know, what I mean [17:34] well that's not half as good. [17:34] that means that you may pause calculating, but if your work is going to be worth something you better complete it before the time runs out [17:34] Maybe I should make the patches smaller [17:35] at the moment you do complete 50x50 patches [17:35] "there are no patches" [17:35] ? [17:35] don't make them smaller [17:35] make them nonexistant :) [17:35] why? [17:35] what would you suggest to do? [17:36] just don't have patches. [17:36] Then I would have to work on pairs [17:36] i.e. points of the score surface [17:37] But administrating and transmitting 640000 pairs/score surface will be overkill then [17:39] But using 25x25-patches or 20x20 might be a good idea tough. [17:40] If you have another idea for distributing the work, I'd really like to hear [17:42] I hope no bad guys are using your client [17:42] the 8 hour timeout is a nice way to dos [17:43] Yes, that's right, but I think, I'll deal with that problem, if (!) it arises [17:43] about patch sizes, I actually really don't know how this point can even come up [17:44] What do you mean? [17:44] I am sure there are reasons for it though and I am just overlooking them :) [17:44] so I won't talk about it [17:45] hmm ... There have to be some way, that I avoid having two persons, which work on the same position of the score surface [17:46] That's what I divide the surface into 50x50 patches and have my database remeber, that a patch is free to work on/worked on/finished [18:02] Join: Mizcu joined #corewars [18:02] MSG: Client Quit [18:02] Join: Mizcu joined #corewars [18:02] Hi Mizcu! [18:02] hi Fluff [18:03] hmm [18:09] Fluffy: so? doesn't matter. :) [18:09] brx: ??? [18:09] hi Mizcu [18:10] Fluffy: you can give out 50x50 but why not allow clients to return less. have your server figure out which part has not been calculated and make it a new job [18:10] Mizcu: My supernatural powers tell me, that you don't know, what to do with you computer. I have the perfect solution: Run the Score Surface Client :) [18:10] or just let the client *send* the required information [18:11] Mizcu: I already calculated my share :) [18:11] brx: But that would make the whole thing more difficult for the server [18:12] Fluffy: marginally. [18:12] Fluff: of course, i could alst run Optimax or Genepool with same power [18:12] brx: I think, that smaller patches would be good enough. [18:13] Fluffy: but that is suboptimal :) [18:13] you know it! [18:13] A computer, which isn't as old as my should need less than an hour for a 50x50 patch. If I'd use 25x25 patches, it would need about 15 mins/patch. [18:14] And I think, that we both agree, that we can loose about 7.5 minutes, if the client is killed prematurely [18:14] Fluffy: I can't give up 7 minutes of work. [18:14] you are wrong, we disagree. [18:14] Then wait until a patch is ready [18:14] I want to make every second count! [18:14] I don't want to sit here looking at the client all the time! [18:15] brx: There's another solution. [18:15] DON'T KILL THE CLIENT :) [18:15] That way every minute counts :) [18:15] Fluffy: I can't even run it if it doesn't allow me to upload partial data [18:15] it feels icky [18:15] * Fluffy sighs [18:15] :) [18:16] Mizcu: Mizcu Mizcu Mizcu Mizcu Mizcu [18:16] I am going to get more coffee, I am on the verge of going nuts [18:16] Mizcu: wait for me ! :) [18:21] ? [18:21] Mizcu: Ignore him. He's got a coffein overdose [18:21] caffeine [18:22] yes [18:22] I was never good at spelling [18:22] especially, if it is the wrong language [18:23] *when [18:23] Mizcu: And? Already started the client? ;-) [18:24] i have no interest [18:25] Say that again and I'll cry the rest of the day! [18:30] re [18:31] this machine is heaven sent [18:31] No, it should read "this client is heaven sent" ;-) [18:32] I am going to drink as much coffee as I can today [18:32] I have never done that [18:32] Then it'll be a long day [18:33] I have already tried to beat the "staying awake" world record [18:33] it's 11 days and something [18:33] I only did 4-5 days I believe [18:33] I had next to no coffee. now the emphasis is different [18:33] Maybe you should first read about what might happen, if you stay awake too long [18:33] I want to know how it feels like when totally going nuts on caffeine [18:33] Anyway ... time to go [18:34] * Fluffy waves [18:34] Fluffy: nothing happens [18:34] Fluffy: you just start acting funny [18:34] * brx waves# [18:34] Part: Fluffy left #corewars [18:49] Join: willvarfa joined #corewars [18:49] MSG: Client Quit [19:02] Join: willvarfa joined #corewars [19:02] hi will [19:02] hi miz [19:03] going well? [19:03] quite fine [19:04] all quiet here these days? [19:04] mostly, but not totally [19:17] WTF [19:18] i didnt optimize the steps in that one for even ONE number [21:10] Join: Roy joined #corewars [21:10] Nooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo!!!!!!! [21:10] * Roy cries [21:10] MSG: Client Quit [21:11] what?;) [21:14] Join: Roy joined #corewars [21:14] Ok, calmed down now ;-) [21:14] im killing that test-one off anyway [21:14] Heh, thats helps (not) [21:15] I was going to make music tonight, but now I have to make a new paper :( [21:57] Ok, f*ck cw, going to make music anyway :) ciao! [21:57] MSG: [22:35] MSG: [23:04] MSG: Quit: Chatzilla 0.9.68.5.1 [Firefox 1.5.0.1/undefined]