[01:43] MSG: Quit: Leaving [03:54] Join: brx_ joined #corewars [03:56] MSG: Read error: Operation timed out [04:35] Nick Change: brx_ changed nick to brx [07:43] http://whywetype.typepad.com/my_weblog/2005/07/when_my_baby_sa.html [08:24] Join: Roy joined #corewars [08:26] hi, bit busy [08:26] * Roy idles [08:39] MSG: [10:06] Join: Roy joined #corewars [10:10] the puppies made a mess...! [10:10] there is a little poo in the middle :-O [10:46] Join: Ferlin joined #corewars [10:46] Part: Ferlin left #corewars [10:52] Topic Change: Mizcu sets topic: www.koth.org - www.corewar.info - corewar.co.uk | off-topic: http://83.91.88.90/view/view.shtml [10:53] hehe miz is addicted too ;-) [10:54] * Roy is waiting for somebody to clean it! [10:55] But why put a off-topic link in the topic, doesn't that make it the topic? [10:59] this channel's topic is about corewars, y'know [11:00] theme would be better word [11:01] but if you put something in the topic its the topic :-P [11:02] oh sod off [11:12] I was just kidding mizcu, grumpy old chap, hows life? [11:13] surprisingly good this morning [11:17] maybe i should go play some ET [11:22] Join: Fluffy joined #corewars [11:22] Hi :-) [11:23] brx: http://corewars.jgutzeit.de/score_surfaces/dissc/statistics.en.html [11:30] I should use that... [11:30] But first... dinner! [12:29] how cute.. [12:31] mommy is cleaning around and 4 puppies watched over the boxes border what was happenin [12:31] (not here, in the webcam that is) [12:38] aww.. missed that too [12:39] the webcam froze, just pressed refresh and they have a new blanket and look happy again [13:17] Join: caesar joined #corewars [13:17] Hi caesar! [13:18] hi guys [13:19] Part: caesar left #corewars [13:24] hmm [13:28] things just went from bad to worse, instead of java I'm now working on a flash application.. [14:55] sf was right, it IS addictive :) [14:56] http://195.113.136.83/view/view.shtml [14:56] Poor geek... sitting alone with 6 girls behind him [14:56] Ohw, he got up, now helping the others [14:59] * brx looks at puppues [15:00] they have a new carpet [15:01] btw roy, on "the other" cam, the remote control of the tv has moved twive [15:01] *ce [15:01] yes, mizcu saw the mommy do it :) [15:01] damnit! [15:02] :( [15:06] ohw, another geek appeared! [15:06] the first one is making a move now on the ladies... [15:07] * brx is not interested in anything but those puppies [15:28] and eve (wigtew) of course [15:29] MSG: Quit: leaving [15:31] secretcams lights just went on!! [15:32] ? [15:33] Join: brx joined #corewars [16:00] * Roy waves [16:01] MSG: [16:58] Join: sf joined #corewars [16:58] Hello [17:04] Roy: which one is secretcam? [17:12] Join: Roy joined #corewars [17:15] anything happened on seccam? [17:16] nope.. [17:16] brb [17:16] * Roy afk [17:16] Is the puppycam down? [17:17] sf: it was when I last looked, it comes up again though [17:17] (it has been down before) [17:33] Roy: http://www.griffid.com/?page=livecams [17:40] sf: http://cuteroverload.com [17:40] http://cuteoverload.com/ [17:42] Something like that yes [17:44] http://animal.discovery.com/convergence/puppybowl/video_gallery/videogallery.html [17:57] http://www.hundefeind.de/ [18:05] brx - 86 patches, Fluffy - 50 patches :-) [18:06] MSG: Quit: I don't like you. But Bersirc 2.2 does. Try it out now. [ http://www.bersirc.org/ - Open Source IRC ] [18:13] Fluffy: :) [18:13] I hope to become 1st soon :) [18:15] Fluffy: http://fettemama.org [18:17] Join: impBot joined #corewars [18:17] MSG: Read error: Connection reset by peer [19:02] Fluf, test it now, I'm going away, mention my name :) [19:02] MSG: [19:03] Fluffy: I will help you become first by stopping dissc now :) [19:09] Join: DzejKej joined #corewars [19:09] hello [19:09] Mizcu: hi :) .. remeber me? me previous nick was "jakub" :) [19:09] yes, i do [19:09] Kozisek [19:09] cool :) [19:10] howdy? [19:11] brx: :-( [19:12] So its been a while, what have you been going? [19:15] lot of changes [19:15] went to the university, got a job and fell in love :) [19:16] right [19:17] im still an average geek around, though got highschool finished finally. And my redcoding still socks. [19:18] you redcoding rullz, jeez :) [19:18] don't be so humble :) [19:19] I almost forgot everyting :( [19:24] willvarfa is still active? [19:24] not anymore [19:24] :( [19:24] he lurks here every once in a while [19:25] :( [19:25] hope to meet him sometime [19:25] * brx has some hopes of his own [19:28] tell us, brx :) [19:28] Join: willvarfa joined #corewars [19:28] talk about timing [19:29] were reading logs, will? [19:29] DzejKej: oh, nothing really :) [19:30] Fluffy: what are you testing? [19:31] where are the logs?? [19:31] willvarfa: http://www.koth.org/irc-logs/ [19:35] hello Jakub [19:35] did you fall in love with your work or your university? [19:35] Join: Metcalf joined #corewars [19:36] Hi [19:36] Roy: 2667*2^269854+1 is prime [19:38] Hi [19:38] Hi Will [19:39] I haven't seen you here for a while [19:40] Hi Jakub! [19:43] aha, been looking at the logs John? [19:44] I arrived first, then looked at the logs :-) [19:45] Happy birthday Will ;-) [19:46] is it my birthday? [19:46] do I get to collect £10 from each player? [19:46] According to the Corewar Who's Who, it's your birthday for the entire month of February [19:46] I hate Monopoly [19:49] ah thats better :-) [19:49] hi willvarfa! :) [19:49] what a timing ... [19:49] hi John! [19:49] It's nice to see you after all this time [19:50] its like a brithday for me :) [19:50] brb (5 min) [19:50] my veil remains [19:51] anyone got a quick summary of whats up on the hills? [19:52] Do you mean a list of current strategies? [19:53] yes and activity [19:53] I think last time I popped in nano was all the rage [19:54] Activity has been on '94nop, nano and draft. [19:55] http://corewar.co.uk/temp/noplist.txt show who has had the oldest warrior since you was last here [19:55] Arrow I remember [19:56] didn't the source turn up on r.g.c? [19:56] Jens has an interesting Corewar page, which includes a history of the '94nop hill http://corewars.jgutzeit.de/history/94nop.en.html [19:57] The nano hill has been busy. The oldest ever nano warrior is one of Dave Hillis's [19:57] Nano qscans and nano scans are still doing well. [19:58] Did you see the nano scan which entered the hill with a score of 170. 2nd place was 150 ... 50th place was 140 [19:59] that is a massive lead! [19:59] i'm back just to say, to be back in 30 minutes :) [20:00] evolvers doing strong on nano? (I'm guessing that Dave's is evolved) [20:00] i'm afraid I'll be offline in 10 :-( [20:00] i traveled with my gf to they parent's house [20:00] willvarfa: :( [20:00] willvarfa: will you join tommorow? [20:00] at this time? [20:01] evenings not so good for me [20:01] I can try to get online from work, but last time I tried it was blocked [20:01] :( [20:02] Not long ago 16 warriors on the 94draft hill had 50%+ ties. [20:03] Will: have you tried a webirc? [20:03] so brb [20:03] bye for now :) [20:04] I found a way out by a jabber server that took connections on port 80, from which I could get onto IRC.. [20:04] * Metcalf waves [20:04] time for me to go now [20:04] * willvarfa waves [20:04] * Metcalf waves :-) [20:04] MSG: Read error: Connection reset by peer [20:07] Hi DzejKej, Metcalf :-) [20:08] Hi Fluffy [20:09] Jens: do you have a script which could be used to show when the hill had most warriors with 50%+ ties on it? [20:10] It shouldn't be that hard to adjust my current scripts to do that [20:13] Current score surface of YAP (jmp) vs. Muskrat: http://corewars.jgutzeit.de/temp/surface.png [20:25] I never noticed your favicon until I installed Firefox [20:27] :) [20:28] hmm ... I really have to start to update the rest of my homepage. I've been neglecting it for more than a year now [20:28] Fluffy: what have you been testing? [20:29] brx: What do you mean? [20:30] 20:02 < Roy> Fluf, test it now, I'm going away, mention my name :) [20:30] oh [20:30] what a bastard [20:30] I think, that Roy meant, that he's start the client [20:30] *started [20:30] But as far as I can tell, he started the client and disconnected from the internet. [20:30] * brx checks the stats [20:31] no need to [20:31] hi Fluffy [20:31] Roy meant you should say his name to see if he reappears [20:31] I do the stats manually! [20:31] .. [20:31] how cheap fluff [20:31] Roy, Roy, Roy, Roy! [20:32] brx: Yes, I know, that I designed the server to be as simple as possible, i.e. I was lazy [20:32] and usernames aren't stored in the sql database [20:32] Fluffy: "false laziness", updating it manually is more of a hassle [20:32] Why can't I upgrade Firefox without closing it down? [20:33] Metcalf: sure you should be able to. only you won't be running the most recent binary until you have restarted it [20:33] Metcalf: Can you update Windows without rebooting ;-) [20:33] Ought to be able to [20:33] * brx tilts his head [20:34] brx: Everything for dissc is automated. I only have to start he appropiate script [20:35] Fluffy: cron? :) [20:35] no [20:37] http://corewars.jgutzeit.de/score_surfaces/dissc/index.en.html is a simple PHP script, which polls the database [20:38] And at home I have a bunch of python scripts, which download the data, extract the patches and create the image(s) [20:38] I am talking user stats here [20:39] MSG: Ping timeout: 252 seconds [20:40] I start a script, which counts the user names in the patch data. It then creates an XML page, which then is transformed into the HTML page you see. [20:40] I only have to upload it [20:41] that's why I said cron [20:42] But I don't like cron jobs and therefore I don't run cron [20:42] Join: DzejKej joined #corewars [20:43] Join: Fizmo joined #corewars [20:43] hi [20:43] Hi Jakub :) [20:43] hi Fizmo! :) [20:44] Nice to see you back after so long time :-) [20:44] Hi [20:44] Hi John [20:44] still playing guitar? [20:44] thats just cool ... joined some hours ago and I met so many cool ppl :) [20:45] Fizmo: not much time nowadays .. but I learning keyboard playing too [20:45] mainly I'm programming (job, uni, hobby) and enjoy life with my gf :) [20:45] hehehe, that sounds nice :) [20:46] it is [20:46] I had today sentimental mood, so I checked some corewars sites and join here [20:46] well, not really much changes here ;-) [20:47] IRCTs are not playing anymore, right? [20:48] maybe soon ;-) [20:48] MSG: Read error: Operation timed out [20:48] I plan on some of the coming sundays a new IRCT [20:49] would u like to join? ;-) [20:49] well, I forgot everything :( [20:49] but we could do some Java, C, Smalltalk tournamets :) [20:49] ;) [20:51] how about a haskell tournament. [20:51] or scheme, common lisp, erlang, ocaml [20:53] worst webpage of today: http://83degrees.com/ [20:53] smalltalk tournament sounds funny :-P [20:53] How about lispwars? [20:55] http://citeseer.ist.psu.edu/cache/papers/cs/3700/http:zSzzSzspi.lip6.frzSz~queinneczSzWWWzSz..zSzPaperszSzstrugman.pdf/struggle-the-first-denotational.pdf [20:57] * brx is reading [20:59] Join: elkauka joined #corewars [21:00] hi [21:01] Metcalf: I don't really get the drift of the paper's "criticism" of corewars [21:01] hi elkauka [21:01] hi brx [21:01] which paper? [21:02] 21:55 < Metcalf> http://citeseer.ist.psu.edu/cache/papers/cs/3700/http:zSzzSzspi.lip6.frzSz~queinneczSzWWWzSz..zSzPaperszSzstrugman.pdf/struggle-the-first-denotational.pdf [21:03] I haven't read this paper for a whil [21:05] Join: Fluffy joined #corewars [21:05] hi fluffy [21:05] "Although simply summarized this game suffers from some defaults. [..] Initially, the two fighters are placed into the memory with some randomness, then the ngame starts. The relative position of the two fighters may be crucial for some of them and clearly not any configuration can be exercized. [..]" [21:06] hi elkauka :-) [21:06] Fizmo :-) [21:07] "[..] For example, one can imagine rather than to kill opponent's threads, to patch them to execute one's code. These opponent's threads thus become friend threads. This question is not unimportant since if cpu-time must be shared equally between the two fighters, then to ignore the owner of a thread would result in an unfair policy." [21:08] lol, so kick vamps for cheating :P [21:09] well, I will finish reading the article first, maybe they propose taking those properties away to introduce better ones :) [21:10] Join: CGI541 joined #corewars [21:10] hi [21:11] Webirc - http://www.rri-online.com/cgiirc/irc.cgi [21:11] Hi CGI541 [21:11] ;-) [21:11] ? [21:11] CGI541: will? [21:11] lol [21:11] No, it's me. [21:11] brx: http://corewars.jgutzeit.de/score_surfaces/dissc/index.en.html [21:11] MSG: Client Quit [21:12] Join: Snurglewo joined #corewars [21:12] Fluffy: what did you do? [21:12] I've updated the data [21:13] Webirc - http://www.axenhammer.com/cgi-bin/cgiirc/irc.cgi [21:13] err ... wrong url, brx ... sorry: http://corewars.jgutzeit.de/score_surfaces/dissc/statistics.en.html [21:13] MSG: Client Quit [21:13] Snurglewo: in case his firewall blocks connections to the first one? [21:13] Fluffy: been there, done that [21:14] Still no Roy in the list :-( [21:16] Can someone tell me the name of the Firefox IRC extension please [21:16] one moment ... [21:17] ChatZilla [21:17] Join: Capn joined #corewars [21:17] hi [21:17] https://addons.mozilla.org/extensions/moreinfo.php?application=firefox&category=XUL%20Applications&numpg=10&id=16 [21:17] Hi Capn [21:17] it's been a while [21:18] yes, today is sentimentalist day. [21:18] busy at school, but an easy semester will allow me to get back into corewars [21:18] Thanks Fluffy [21:18] Hi Capn [21:18] Metcalf: I've used it once, worked well, but I prefer Gaim [21:18] i'm going to make a warrior for the beginner's hill [21:20] can someone walk me through a .66c scanner again? I've forgotten how it works. [21:20] hehe [21:20] hi Capn, been a while again [21:21] Metcalf: I think, that your linke for "Anatomy of the Scanner" is wrong in you bibliography [21:22] Metcalf: It doesn't point to the right text [21:22] Join: John joined #corewars [21:23] ROY, ROY, ROY, ROY [21:23] wow, what a traffic here :) [21:24] wow [21:24] brx: Either Roy doesn't scan the logs regularly or he intentionally chooses not to come in [21:24] there is a lot of people [21:24] but I have to go now :( [21:24] Fluffy: or his girlfriend doesn't allow him to come online [21:24] Fluffy: I can text him a message ;-) [21:25] Fizmo: NO [21:25] MSG: Quit: roy: mov roy, roy+1 [21:25] lol [21:25] ok, gotta go now [21:25] * Fizmo waves [21:25] * Fluffy waves [21:25] * John waves [21:26] MSG: [21:27] well [21:28] well, well [21:29] well, well, well [21:29] No, I won't play that game [21:29] ;-) [21:30] trying to remember all this stuff is a pain [21:30] especially for a noob [21:30] lol [21:30] What stuff? [21:30] how to code [21:30] Pain is good. (Thats what they say at a hot sauce -bottle) [21:30] all i need to win in order to get int eh beginner's hill is .6 percent? [21:30] Then change the constants a little bit [21:31] +/- 1, 2.. [21:32] who, me? [21:32] heh. i'm coding something new [21:33] yes, you :) [21:36] hm [21:38] aw, its way to late ... anyone how can help me with a lil peice of code? [21:40] sure! [21:40] :P [21:40] fluffy will be your guy, i think. [21:46] elkauka: redcode piece? :) [21:48] yes, but already solved the problem myself [21:48] thx anyway :) [21:48] http://flocksucks.wordpress.com/ [21:49] Capn: Hey, how can you make me volunteer without my consent ;-) [21:52] elkauka: np :) [21:53] brb [21:53] MSG: Quit: Chatzilla 0.9.70 [Firefox 1.5/2005111116] [21:54] Join: John joined #corewars [21:56] john: And what do you think of ChatZilla? Do you like it? [21:56] fluffy: because i'm amazing like that [21:56] I think I prefer Xircon! [22:00] what's the email and ;redcode-HILLCODE for the SAL beginner's again? [22:00] [22:01] ;redcode-94b [22:01] okay [22:01] i'll resubmit my seeker .5c [22:02] and then start tweaking seeker [22:02] :) [22:03] there doesn't have to be a subject in the email, does there? [22:03] i can't remember. >.< [22:03] no, I usually take "koth" though [22:03] k [22:03] now [22:04] here's my basis for my 'seeker' warrior [22:04] ;redcode-94b [22:04] ;author CapnStrong [22:04] ;name Seeker .5c [22:04] ;strategy .5c Scan -> SPL carpet [22:04] ;strategy Ends with DAT coreclear [22:04] ;kill Seeker .5c [22:04] ;assert 1 [22:04] org start [22:04] ;scores 120.2 on 94b [22:04] ; ------------------------ [22:04] pointer DAT 0, 0 [22:04] DAT 0, 0 [22:04] ; ------------------------ [22:04] seeker ADD #88, pointer [22:04] JMZ.f seeker, @pointer [22:04] carpet MOV bomb, >pointer [22:04] DJN -1, #8 [22:04] MOV #8, -1 [22:04] JMN.a seeker, pointer-8 [22:04] bomb SPL #0, #0 [22:04] MOV 2, >pointer [22:04] DJN.f -1, >pointer [22:04] DAT <2667, #20 [22:04] ; ------------------------ [22:04] for 4 [22:04] DAT 0, 0 [22:05] rof [22:05] DAT 0, 0 [22:05] for 7 [22:05] DAT 0, 0 [22:05] rof [22:05] DAT 0, 0 [22:05] for 7 [22:05] DAT #5, #5 [22:05] rof [22:05] DAT 0, 0 [22:05] ; ------------------------ [22:05] start add.a #5, pointer-8 [22:05] JMP seeker [22:05] ; ------------------------ [22:05] end [22:05] sorry for length. :P [22:05] but i want to upgrade the seeker speed, and maybe make a double-pass coreclear [22:05] or just a better coreclear [22:06] d-clear is a multipass [22:06] you dont need any better, unless you really dont trust your scan-run [22:06] You can score slightly more by adding this to the beginning: [22:06] dat 5,0 [22:06] for 7 [22:06] dat 0,0 [22:06] rof [22:06] The changing pointer to: [22:07] dat 0,176 [22:07] how did oyu figure that out so fast? wow. or is it just common sense that i forgot [22:07] and using org seeker+1 [22:07] I just thought through what the program is doing in it's first few cycles. [22:08] alright [22:08] It adds then jumps then add again. [22:09] Three wasted cycles, you might as well do the adding in you source code ;-) [22:09] The first scanned location is 88 [22:09] true [22:09] so just starting three cycles ahead is logic [22:09] i see [22:10] There won't be an enemy there because it is inside the 100 instructions allocated to you (maxlength) [22:10] So another two cycles are wasted jumping, then adding another 88 [22:10] Saving five cycles might get you a fraction of a point :-) [22:10] i trie dmaking a .66c scanner but there was a problem with me detecting my little trigger to start the coreclear. i think i'll end up doing the math or something to figure out where to put it [22:11] thanks, john [22:11] That's okay [22:12] i'm thinking of using SNE to get a faster scan going [22:13] ADD, SNE, JMP bomb, JMP start [22:13]