[00:53] Join: Metcalf joined #corewars [00:53] Hi [00:55] oh, hi [00:55] just in time [01:00] :-) [01:00] Hi Neo [01:04] * Neogryzor squizes his tiny memory... [01:04] * anne juggles grease [01:04] and anne is still juggling :P [01:06] Have you seen the bibliography I'm working on Neo? [01:06] nope [01:06] http://corewar.co.uk/biblio.htm [01:07] I still have about 20 more issues of CoreWarrior to add, and all issue of TCWN [01:10] wow, nice. That is a long and complete bibliography. [01:10] It reminds me the corewar lexicon [01:11] It's getting there [01:11] A bibliography is much easier to make than a lexico [01:11] lexico EQU lexicon [01:13] Of course, it needs a lot of work. Like several other parts of my site which are "in progress"! [01:16] hehe, mi site is in "no-progress" [01:17] It's a bit broken at the moment [01:18] .oO ( a ... uh ... bit ... uh ... moment ... ? ) [01:18] More than a bit... The admin automatically adds some advertising, and broke completely some pages in the site. Weird. [01:19] MSG: Ping timeout: 252 seconds [01:19] .oO ( ... advertising ... pages ? ) [01:19] wake up! [01:19] You could find a new host [01:19] * brx goes to bed [01:19] * anne juggles grease [01:20] no, you come with me. [01:20] hehe [01:20] MSG: Quit: gotta go :( [01:20] good night :) [01:20] good night [01:20] Good-nigh brx [01:38] I wonder how capn is getting on with his tutorial [01:39] a tutorial for begginers? [01:39] Yes [01:41] * Neogryzor tries a couple of ideas [01:42] If they're '94nop ideas then please keep it to just two! [01:42] * Metcalf has warriors in 17, 18, 19 and 20th place :-( [01:43] lol [01:44] Don't worry, they're "nanos". [01:44] :-) [01:54] 137.4 hmm, close! [01:55] I'll have a go in a minute! [01:56] I see your scanners are having a hard time on the 94nop [01:58] :-( [02:07] Those Nexus are going from bad to worse :) [02:07] :-) [02:07] Just trying to put a Tempest style bomb in it [02:07] I'm a bit too sleepy [02:07] I need to go to bed [02:08] Back tomorrow [02:08] me too [02:08] Good night :-) [02:08] good night [02:08] * Neogryzor rushes to bed [02:09] MSG: Quit: Physical Wreck IRC webscript: http://www.pswclan.com/cgi-bin/irc/irc.cgi [03:12] Join: brx` joined #corewars [03:14] MSG: Ping timeout: 252 seconds [03:19] Join: bescritt joined #corewars [03:35] Part: bescritt left #corewars [04:25] MSG: Quit: mov.i #1,1 [05:49] Join: johnkw joined #corewars [05:50] Join: Mizcu joined #corewars [07:29] MSG: Ping timeout: 252 seconds [07:45] Join: Mizcu joined #corewars [08:12] MSG: Read error: Operation timed out [08:14] Join: asw joined #corewars [08:20] MSG: Read error: Operation timed out [08:22] Join: asw joined #corewars [10:52] Join: fiveop joined #corewars [12:44] Join: sascha joined #corewars [13:00] Nick Change: brx` changed nick to brx [13:01] MSG: Ping timeout: 252 seconds [13:17] Join: sascha joined #corewars [13:31] MSG: Ping timeout: 252 seconds [13:35] Join: Mizcu joined #corewars [14:06] MSG: Ping timeout: 252 seconds [14:06] Join: Mizcu joined #corewars [14:06] ISP deserves a kick, or ten [14:31] Join: anne joined #corewars [14:31] anne, get nop place <= 3 [14:31] (1 2by4k P.Kline 28 17 55 139.54 63) [14:31] (2 Hullab3loo Roy van Rijn 31 25 43 137.79 17) [14:31] (3 D3vilstick Roy van Rijn 25 14 61 134.88 16) [14:31] anne, get tiny author metcalf [14:31] (6 Muskrat John Metcalf 42.8 47.7 9.5 137.9 191) [14:31] (10 Alexandria John Metcalf 41.6 46.3 12.1 136.9 14) [14:31] (15 Trick Shot II John Metcalf 40.5 44.7 14.8 136.2 31) [14:31] (19 Digital Swarm John Metcalf 29.4 23.9 46.7 134.9 273) [14:31] (20 world of copper wire John Metcalf 39.3 44.1 16.6 134.5 54) [14:32] (22 Moomintroll John Metcalf 27.9 22.2 49.9 133.6 122) [14:32] (25 tiny Blowrag Metcalf/Schmidt 24.5 16.3 59.1 132.8 287) [14:32] * brx pets anne [14:32] * anne juggles grease [14:33] no formatting and that command is only preliminary [14:34] anne, get tiny place 1 [14:36] anne, get tiny place 1 [14:37] anne, get tin place 1 [14:42] MSG: Ping timeout: 252 seconds [14:47] anne, get tin place 1 [14:47] you dork.. [14:47] anne, get tin author roy [14:52] anne, get tin place 1 [14:52] you dork.. [14:52] anne, get tiny place roy [14:52] you dork.. [14:53] anne, get no place = 1 [14:53] screw *that* hill, and screw you too.. [14:53] anne, get no place = [14:53] screw *that* hill, and screw you too.. [14:53] anne, get nop place = [14:53] screw *that* hill, and screw you too.. [14:53] anne, get nop place [14:53] stupid son of a bitch [14:53] anne, get beginner place 1 [14:53] you dork.. [14:53] anne, get beginner place = 1 [14:53] (1 Xenocitrum_v0.8 inversed 43.2 37.0 19.8 149.5 37) [14:54] anne, get tiny place = 1 [14:54] (1 White Noise (RBv1.5r10) The MicroGP Corewars Collective 39.7 40.2 20.1 139.1 158) [14:54] anne, get tiny place = 1 [14:54] (1 White Noise (RBv1.5r10) The MicroGP Corewars Collective 39.7 40.2 20.1 139.1 158) [14:54] anne, get sal-b author andreas [14:54] you dork.. [14:54] anne, get salb author andreas [14:54] you dork.. [14:54] anne, get sal-beg author andreas [14:54] you dork.. [14:57] anne, get sal-beg author andreas [14:57] you dork.. [14:57] anne, get sal-beg author andreas [14:57] you dork.. [14:57] anne, get sal-bg author andreas [14:57] you dork.. [14:58] anne, get sal-b author andreas [14:58] (4 test Andreas Scholta 42.4 38.8 18.8 146.1 24) [14:58] anne, get beginner author andreas [14:58] (4 test Andreas Scholta 42.4 38.8 18.8 146.1 24) [14:58] anne, get beginner author andreas, please [14:58] (4 test Andreas Scholta 42.4 38.8 18.8 146.1 24) [14:59] anne, get 94nop author kline, please [14:59] (1 2by4k P.Kline 28 17 55 139.54 63) [14:59] (15 Stable Muffin P.Kline 31 36 32 126.17 33) [15:00] anne, get sal-tiny place <= 10 [15:00] (1 White Noise (RBv1.5r10) The MicroGP Corewars Collective 39.7 40.2 20.1 139.1 158) [15:00] (2 Sneaky Spike 2 Roy van Rijn 41.0 43.0 16.0 139.0 103) [15:00] (3 Supernova Sascha Zapf 28.7 18.6 52.6 138.8 7) [15:00] (4 Gun + Gun 04 Zul Nadzri 40.1 41.8 18.1 138.4 15) [15:00] (5 Larger Than Infinity Zul Nadzri 39.8 41.3 18.9 138.3 34) [15:00] (6 Muskrat John Metcalf 42.8 47.7 9.5 137.9 191) [15:00] * brx dances with anne [15:00] * anne juggles grease [15:00] (7 Endless pain G.Labarga 33.3 29.0 37.7 137.7 159) [15:00] (8 Scan-O-Matic Sascha Zapf 39.4 41.2 19.3 137.6 8) [15:00] (9 476 Sascha Zapf 32.7 28.3 39.1 137.1 67) [15:00] (10 Alexandria John Metcalf 41.6 46.3 12.1 136.9 14) [16:01] anyway. hill activity announcement is in there too. [16:02] it's just not debugged yet :) [16:03] I am afraid 94nop was too hard on anne's "dat" [16:03] :) [16:03] ! [16:04] MSG: Remote host closed the connection [16:07] I am afraid 94nop was too hard on anne's "imp" :( [16:08] well, announcing that someone has not made it on works [16:08] :) [16:20] anne, get nano author microgo [16:20] anne, get nano author microgp [16:20] (2 Foggy Maus (beta) The MicroGP Corewars Collective 50.1 44.0 6.0 156.1 4) [16:20] (7 Paedocypris horridus (RBv1.6r1.0.33) The MicroGP Corewars Collective 48.7 44.6 6.7 152.8 31) [16:20] (8 Mellisuga helenae (RBv1.6r1.3.98) The MicroGP Corewars Collective 48.4 44.5 7.1 152.3 7) [16:20] (10 Muddy Mouse (RBv1.6r1.1.231) The MicroGP Corewars Collective 48.0 45.0 7.0 151.1 16) [16:20] (11 Drunken Onion I The MicroGP Corewars Collective 48.8 46.5 4.7 151.0 3) [16:20] (23 Happy Onion VIII The MicroGP Corewars Collective 39.0 31.8 29.2 146.1 14) [16:20] (40 Happy Onion V The MicroGP Corewars Collective 45.1 48.7 6.3 141.5 17) [16:37] Join: johnkw joined #corewars [16:41] Join: Fluffy joined #corewars [16:41] :) [16:41] Nice work, brx :) [16:42] hrm? [16:42] anne, get 94nop [16:42] :) [16:42] she won't get you the whole hill. [16:42] anne, get 94nop author Jens Gutzeit [16:42] 13] Goddess of Fluffiness (Jens Gutzeit) 28/24/48 132.25 [5 [16:43] :) [16:43] I like that [16:43] anne, get nop tie > 15 [16:43] 1] 2by4k (P.Kline) 31/17/52 145.1 [63 [16:43] 2] Hullab3loo (Roy van Rijn) 35/25/40 144.1 [17 [16:43] 3] Monster_Human_Grunt (inversed) 33/25/41 140.88 [102 [16:43] 4] D3vilstick (Roy van Rijn) 27/14/58 140.67 [16 [16:43] 5] Mascafé (G.Labarga) 27/15/58 139.16 [8 [16:43] 6] Rust [v0.2] (inversed) 28/17/55 138.63 [210 [16:43] 7] Monster_Alien_Grunt (inversed) 31/24/45 137.92 [103 [16:43] 8] Gods Of Destiny (Nenad Tomasev) 31/25/43 137.66 [231 [16:43] 10] MoonOfChaos (Nenad Tomasev) 28/22/50 133.47 [65 [16:43] 11] Last Judgement (Christian Schmidt) 27/21/52 133.26 [287 [16:43] 15 was a bit too low :) [16:43] 12] Battery (Sascha Zapf) 31/29/40 133.07 [109 [16:43] 13] Goddess of Fluffiness (Jens Gutzeit) 28/24/48 132.25 [5 [16:43] 14] H5N1 (Sascha Zapf) 27/23/50 131.71 [13 [16:43] 15] walking with ghosts (John Metcalf) 38/46/16 130.17 [4 [16:43] 16] hostage in the other core (John Metcalf) 36/43/21 129.18 [2 [16:43] yes, it seems [16:43] 17] Stable Muffin (P.Kline) 32/36/31 128.44 [33 [16:43] 18] F3 (Sascha Zapf) 35/43/22 128.27 [30 [16:43] 19] Dark Crystal (John Metcalf) 38/47/16 128.11 [9 [16:43] 20] law of the spiders (John Metcalf) 34/43/22 124.69 [1 [16:43] anne, get nop place = 9 [16:43] 21] imp (anne) 0/54/46 46.74 [0 [16:43] 9] Poison Arrow (Christian Schmidt) 41/46/13 136.27 [32 [16:44] (she can easily be abused to be kicked... you can query several different things in close succession and she will just send the info interleaved.) [16:44] anne, get nop tie > 40 [16:44] 1] 2by4k (P.Kline) 31/17/52 145.1 [63 [16:44] 3] Monster_Human_Grunt (inversed) 33/25/41 140.88 [102 [16:44] 4] D3vilstick (Roy van Rijn) 27/14/58 140.67 [16 [16:44] 5] Mascafé (G.Labarga) 27/15/58 139.16 [8 [16:44] 6] Rust [v0.2] (inversed) 28/17/55 138.63 [210 [16:44] 7] Monster_Alien_Grunt (inversed) 31/24/45 137.92 [103 [16:44] 8] Gods Of Destiny (Nenad Tomasev) 31/25/43 137.66 [231 [16:44] 10] MoonOfChaos (Nenad Tomasev) 28/22/50 133.47 [65 [16:44] 11] Last Judgement (Christian Schmidt) 27/21/52 133.26 [287 [16:44] * brx sighs [16:44] 13] Goddess of Fluffiness (Jens Gutzeit) 28/24/48 132.25 [5 [16:44] * anne juggles grease [16:44] 14] H5N1 (Sascha Zapf) 27/23/50 131.71 [13 [16:44] 21] imp (anne) 0/54/46 46.74 [0 [16:45] anne, get nop loss < 15 [16:45] 4] D3vilstick (Roy van Rijn) 27/14/58 140.67 [16 [16:45] :) [16:46] anyway, she should be able to announce new entries [16:46] IT! [16:46] it? [16:46] anne isn't female [16:46] * anne cries [16:46] now look what you have done! [16:46] you beast :( [16:46] * brx hugs anne affectionately [16:47] * anne juggles grease [16:47] I'll keep doing that until Judgement Day (i.e. the Judgement Day of Terminator ;-) [16:47] yes, you do that well sweetie :) [16:47] when announcing new entries she announces entry place, name and author as well as name, author and parting age of the pushed off warrior [16:48] she also announces failed entry attempts [16:48] currently she does that for 94nop, salb, salnano [16:48] sal-tiny is a manually updated hill (manually, with queries) [16:48] the other hills I have not cared to add yet. [16:49] and given that I will have to scatter update times for periodically updated hills when the number grows too large.. [16:50] apart from bugfixing, I will polish up the parsing [16:51] so that you will be able to constrain a hill query on multiple fields [16:51] as in get sal-b author andreas place <= 10 [16:51] I've just updated the stats page [16:52] It seems, that bvowk now uses more computers for DiSSC :) [16:52] :) [16:53] Does annes caches the results? [16:53] *cache [16:53] MSG: Ping timeout: 252 seconds [16:53] Fluffy: sure, if not she wouldn't be able to announce new entries etc [16:54] also, she can only announce new entries because she polls the hills independently [16:54] It might be a good idea to check (via HEAD), whether a page has changed since the last access. That should save bandwitdth [16:54] (multithreaded) [16:55] that is true. [16:55] thank you :) [16:55] :) [16:56] * Fluffy is the happiest person in the world :-))))) [16:56] * anne juggles grease [16:56] bandwidth is not an issue. it *will* save processing [16:56] why? [16:56] My parser works [16:56] uhm [16:56] argh, EVE! [16:56] ? [16:56] I had forgotten about her [16:56] :) [16:57] It was a nice idea NOT to support multiline EQUs [16:57] * brx 's life is crowded with interesting, good-looking girls [16:57] * anne juggles grease [16:57] yeeees [16:57] Fluffy: send a warrior to sal-b or 94nop please [16:58] and make it *enter* :) [16:58] hehe [16:58] so we can see if anne does what she is supposed to do for all cases. [16:58] one mo [16:59] * brx fetches some food [16:59] * anne juggles grease [16:59] * brx kisses anne's forehead :) [16:59] * anne juggles grease [17:02] brx: I've submitted a warrior and hope, that it enters [17:03] Fluffy: to which hill? [17:03] 94nop [17:03] oh, right, she also polls nano [17:04] I also have to implement error handling.. [17:04] what I currently have is more of a hack then anything else. [17:05] s/then/than [17:05] hmm ... it is still in the queue [17:06] it is on the hill [17:07] and? [17:08] How long is the polling interval? [17:08] I don't know [17:08] random [17:08] (random 60) minutes [17:09] Fluffy: what is its name? [17:09] Dreaming of Dreams [17:09] anne, get nop name dreams [17:09] It is still in development and I soon kill it [17:09] she hasn't updated yet [17:09] then I'll wait [17:10] ARGH [17:10] ? [17:10] she has, backtrace :) [17:10] (just nwo) [17:10] however [17:10] she wanted to congratulate [17:10] when she crashed [17:10] :) [17:11] I kill it now [17:11] okay [17:11] Join: Core29 joined #corewars [17:11] (I also spotted the silly error already) [17:12] You can send an imp to fill in the empty slot [17:12] Congratulations to Jens Gutzeit! "Dreaming of Dreams" enters 94nop on place 14. :) [17:12] John Metcalf's "walking with ghosts" was pushed off at age 5. All must come to pass :/ [17:12] not necessary [17:13] I would prefer sth. like "Rest in pieces ... err ... peace" ;-) [17:13] I prefer dynamic, changing messages [17:13] I will implement those soon, very easy [17:13] Now, that my parser works, I have to tidy it [17:13] At the moment it is quite a mess [17:14] I hear you :) [17:14] ? [17:14] I mean, I know that situation [17:14] :) [17:14] I am just happy that I left eve behind in an orderly state [17:14] * Fluffy is away for a while ... [17:14] * anne juggles grease [17:15] * brx watches shakugan no shana with anne [17:15] * anne juggles grease [17:16] MSG: Ping timeout: 252 seconds [17:17] I am afraid 94nop was too hard on Jens Gutzeit's "killer" :( [17:59] Join: Metcalf joined #corewars [17:59] Hi [18:00] :) [18:01] Do you think it is fair to get 99.3% wins against a warrior on the hill? :-) [18:02] Yes, of course [18:02] Which one? [18:02] Did I miss sth.? [18:04] http://sal.math.ualberta.ca/warrior.php?key=nano&id=2515&t=2515&sortby=score&dir=desc [18:04] My new nano warrior [18:05] I like that :) [18:05] * Metcalf too [18:05] * anne juggles grease [18:05] anne, get nano name victim ? [18:05] 29] victim of the night (John Metcalf) 45.3/45.6/9.1 145.1 [2 [18:05] anne, you missed something.. [18:06] 29? [18:06] Does get very high on the hill [18:06] when was the last challenge to nano? [18:07] anne, get nano author metcalf, and please, would you announce new entries to nano? thank you. [18:07] 4] Resolute (John Metcalf) 49.6/44.6/5.8 154.6 [42 [18:07] 6] Master of the Core (John Metcalf) 48.9/44.9/6.2 153.0 [170 [18:07] 29] victim of the night (John Metcalf) 45.3/45.6/9.1 145.1 [2 [18:07] 30] the last of the dragons (John Metcalf) 46.5/48.1/5.4 144.9 [309 [18:07] 34] toy soldier (John Metcalf) 45.1/46.2/8.7 144.1 [328 [18:07] 39] around the core in 80 cycles (John Metcalf) 45.5/49.2/5.3 141.8 [245 [18:07] 48] nacs esrever (John Metcalf) 43.6/48.9/7.5 138.2 [20 [18:07] It just has some constants chosen at random as I typed it into hotmail [18:08] that's not what I was asking, I could care less. [18:08] +not [18:09] If have a question ... [18:09] Suppose you have two warrior, one with cmp and one with seq [18:09] Would a comparision between seq and cmp fail or succeed? [18:10] they compile to identical code [18:10] Are you sure? [18:10] Yes [18:10] ok, because I'm now tweaking my parser for those "fine" points [18:13] hmm ... I've downloaded the complete Koenigstuhl to test my parser and it already fails, when processing the 3rd warrior [18:23] 2 million pound was left in an abandoned vehicle! [18:24] hmm ... it is just money [18:24] Money is useful [18:24] Fluffy: the most important thing in the world? [18:24] Not the most important [18:24] hmm [18:24] Metcalf: yes, right :P [18:28] after having met enough people who wanted to exchange their girlfriends for my jacket, I realized how important money really is. in its absence you trade with whatever you have handy. [18:29] but they were all ugly and didn't warrant losing my jacket. [18:29] family is more important than money [18:29] Maybe you should think of another problem, too, brx ... [18:29] * brx raises an eyebrow [18:29] * anne juggles grease [18:30] Metcalf: you don't even get to choose your family. [18:30] The girlfriend might NOT want to be exchanged ;-) [18:30] Fluffy: yes, but them being female don't get to decide, you know? [18:30] *they [18:30] Fluffy: Wait a few years and you have to change that opinion [18:31] Metcalf: if you are unlucky your family is completely worthless. [18:31] Are you talking to yourself Fluffy? :-) [18:31] yes [18:33] Fluffy: I think I have already made up my mind. the issue has resolved itself. [18:33] many times over :) [18:39] Fluffy: what you proposed earlier won't work for sal. [18:39] so I am not doing it at all. [18:39] :( [18:39] hehe ... I can already parse 9 warrior from 94nop@Koenigstuhl [18:39] (sal's pages are dynamically served) [18:50] Join: johnkw joined #corewars [18:52] Hi John [18:53] Fluffy: did you find qmars? [18:53] no [18:53] Martin Ankerl's software? [18:53] I know, that I've already asked (and got) it [18:53] but I can't find it anymore [18:54] yes [18:54] His corewar pages are no longer available :-( [18:54] Hmmm... I have exmars and yace [18:54] anne, get limited-process place = 1 [18:54] 1] D-Knight (Nenad Tomasev) 49.1/35.4/15.5 162.8 [23 [18:55] I have also been looking for ankerl's software. [18:57] anne, get 88 place = 1 [18:57] screw *that* hill, and screw you too.. [18:57] hrm [18:57] anne, get 88std place = 1 [18:57] 1] Test (Alexander (Sasha) Wa) 34/24/43 143.62 [178 [18:57] anne, get 88 place = 1 [18:57] you should implement some synonyms for the hills [18:57] 1] Test (Alexander (Sasha) Wa) 34/24/43 143.62 [178 [18:57] Fluffy: I have... [18:57] 88 = 88std = ... [18:57] oh [18:57] Fluffy: I just didn't quote the 88 correctly [18:58] anne, get limited-process place = 1 [18:58] 1] D-Knight (Nenad Tomasev) 49.1/35.4/15.5 162.8 [23 [18:58] anne, get lp place = 1 [18:58] 1] D-Knight (Nenad Tomasev) 49.1/35.4/15.5 162.8 [23 [18:58] The page is in the web archive http://web.archive.org/web/20050321091701/http://martinus.geekisp.com/rublog.cgi/Projects/CoreWar [18:58] But I can't see qmars [18:59] Unfortunately the archives doesn't include source codes :( [18:59] *archive [18:59] anne, get limited-process win >= 50 [18:59] anne, get limited-process win >= 45 [18:59] 1] D-Knight (Nenad Tomasev) 49.1/35.4/15.5 162.8 [23 [18:59] 2] Digital Rain (inversed) 46.5/35.8/17.6 157.2 [15 [18:59] 4] Vote Nation (Zul Nadzri) 45.6/38.0/16.4 153.2 [28 [19:01] Fluffy: next are memos [19:02] Is this what you're after Jens? ftp://ftp.tw.FreeBSD.org/pub/FreeBSD/ports/local-distfiles/pav/exhaust-ma.zip [19:03] ugh [19:03] qmars [19:03] Not, it is just a "hacked" version of exhaust [19:03] qmars is writting in C++ [19:03] *written [19:03] Fluffy: why do you need qmars? [19:03] To include it im my speed comparision of all available MARS [19:04] That way I'll have the possibility to brag about PyCorewar's good performance [19:04] and you will be able to tell me what to use. [19:04] hurry up [19:05] I already know, that exhaust-ma is the best choice, if you exclude fmars [19:05] Fluffy: which is why I looked for exhaust-ma [19:05] but never found it [19:05] You should have asked me :) [19:05] Have you seen Will's Which Mars guide http://redcoder.sourceforge.net/?p=whichmars [19:05] yes :) [19:05] Fluffy: you have it? [19:05] exhaust-ma? [19:05] yes [19:06] Yes, I already have it. [19:06] John has just posted an URL [19:06] exhaust-1.9.2/exhaust-ma/exmars-0.01/fmars-0.0.207/pmars-0.9.2 [19:08] * brx googles [19:08] * anne juggles grease [19:09] ftp://ftp.tw.FreeBSD.org/pub/FreeBSD/ports/local-distfiles/pav/exhaust-ma.zip [19:09] oh, thank you fluffy [19:09] It is quite annoying, that I already had a copy of qmars, but lost it :( [19:10] MSG: Ping timeout: 252 seconds [19:11] hmm ... 28 good parse run before I got the first difference to pmars (on tiny@Koengistuhl :-) [19:11] *runs [19:11] lol [19:12] Hey, that's good. I'm weeding out all those tiny bugs [19:12] And it wasn't even a bug [19:13] The warrior just didn't have an assert line [19:13] and pmars and PyCorwar create different warnings for that [19:13] I hate the assert warning... [19:13] seriously [19:14] But it is a good thing [19:14] Quite handy for debugging [19:14] what debugging? [19:14] debugging warriors [19:14] You can assert values anywhere in the warrior [19:14] the warning? [19:15] Join: Metcalf joined #corewars [19:15] Fluffy: I don't hate asserts.. I hate the warnings generated when I don't have any [19:15] they are annoying. [19:15] k [19:15] I'm already at 34 good parse runs for tiny [19:15] :) [19:16] why does this seem to take so long? [19:16] what? [19:16] your tests [19:16] After I've found a difference to pmars, I have to adjust PyCorewar [19:17] a-ha [19:17] Current error for "Tiny Star v0.10" by "brx" [19:18] * brx grins [19:18] * anne juggles grease [19:23] * brx builds the new port driver for eve using exhaust-ma [19:23] * anne juggles grease [19:23] Join: OoS joined #corewars [19:24] MSG: Ping timeout: 252 seconds [19:24] brx: bug found :) [19:24] Fluffy: what was it? [19:24] I've changed a value, I shouldn't change [19:25] Fluffy: have you received email? [19:25] yes [19:25] oh [19:25] :) [19:25] Join: Mizcu joined #corewars [19:25] Hi Mizcu [19:26] hi miz [19:26] Fluffy: just check it s what you are looking for, and complete. [19:26] It seems a very small file [19:27] Seems to be complte [19:27] compiling it now [19:28] hmm ... and got an compile error [19:28] Probably because GCC template-handling code has changed since [19:28] But thanks :) [19:28] It's what I was looking for [19:29] Join: Metcalf joined #corewars [19:30] Good :-) [19:30] time to go [19:30] * Fluffy waves [19:30] * anne juggles grease [19:30] * Metcalf waves [19:30] * anne juggles grease [19:30] MSG: Quit: dat # 1, < 1 [19:32] MSG: Ping timeout: 252 seconds [19:37] MSG: Ping timeout: 252 seconds [20:17] Join: sascha joined #corewars [20:41] MSG: [21:31] MSG: Quit: rebooting :) [21:32] MSG: Quit: reboot! [21:41] Join: Fluffy joined #corewars [21:42] :) [21:46] DiSSC: 1570 completed patches, brx - 857, bvowk - 393, Fluffy - 187, Roy 78, Sascha - 55 [21:53] MSG: Ping timeout: 252 seconds [21:57] Join: brx joined #corewars [21:58] * brx has tried his new external harddrive [21:58] and? [21:58] it's sexy :) [21:58] the speed is okay, it's very small.. it's beautiful! [21:59] (anne is a little jealous) [22:01] brx: Now I can parse 267 out of 284 warriors from tiny :) [22:01] that's because you are uber [22:01] No, I'm Fluffy [22:02] mmmmh [22:03] If I can solve my problem with zero-length loops I'll be able to parse all warriors from tiny [22:04] Join: anne joined #corewars [22:04] tadaimaaaasu! [22:05] anne, as far as I have understood it, this is now your home (since you can do something useful now). [22:05] you bet! :) [22:05] anne, please kick brx [22:05] * anne loves brx [22:06] Your response was too slow, brx [22:06] * anne loves brx [22:06] okay... [22:06] * brx does it [22:06] * anne juggles grease [22:08] MSG: Quit: humhum [22:09] Yippie, I can parse all nano-warriors from Koenigstuhl [22:10] But I still have problems with 94nop :-( [22:10] :( [22:10] But it is only my calculator [22:11] pmars does not evaluate all expressions, the same way Python does [22:11] So I have to check, where the differences are [22:11] My first guess is % [22:11] -1 % 8000 == 7999 in Python [22:11] wait.. [22:11] but it is -1 in pmars [22:11] are you "evaluating"? :) [22:12] can a special warrior format your hd? :) [22:12] ??? [22:12] anne, get nop place = 1 [22:12] 1] 2by4k (P.Kline) 30/17/53 143.9 [64 [22:12] mh? [22:12] [23:11] pmars does not evaluate all expressions, the same way Python [22:12] does [22:12] it might be that you are simply letting python evaluate the expressions [22:13] No, I can't do that [22:13] :) [22:13] I know, that there is an eval()-function [22:13] but then I loose all the power for debugging the warriors [22:13] * brx nods [22:13] * anne juggles grease [22:14] MSG: Quit: Trillian (http://www.ceruleanstudios.com [22:15] The fun part is, that allmost everything of my "calculator" is a 1:1 C-to-Python-copy from pmars' sources [22:15] Fluffy: say my name please [22:15] why? [22:15] do it :) [22:15] Andreas [22:16] my nick.. [22:16] brx [22:16] ow [22:16] ? [22:16] brx [22:16] * anne loves brx.. [22:16] good enough [22:16] brx [22:16] * anne loves brx.. [22:16] * Fluffy kicks brx [22:16] * anne juggles grease [22:17] hehe [22:17] :) [22:17] she has her priorities.. [22:17] Before I forget ... [22:17] I really hope, that you'll become the first to reach 1000 completed patches. You deserve that! [22:17] MSG: Quit: dat # 1, < 1 [22:18] Join: sascha joined #corewars [22:18] Join: Fluffy joined #corewars [22:19] I am confused.. [22:19] why? [22:20] I don't know. [22:20] I love you, brx [22:21] I thought you were leaving is all. [22:22] No, I accidentally killed Gaim [22:22] anne, get nop author sascha [22:22] 13] H5N1 (Sascha Zapf) 28/22/50 135.1 [14 [22:22] 17] Battery (Sascha Zapf) 31/29/41 132.86 [110 [22:22] 19] F3 (Sascha Zapf) 36/43/20 129.79 [31 [22:23] anne: good girl :) [22:23] I love you, brx [22:24] by the way. I compiled exhaust-ma, linked it into my portdriver.. and [22:24] it doesn't work :) [22:24] What did you use before? [22:24] exhaust. [22:24] :) [22:24] hmm ... both programs use the same output format [22:24] output format? [22:25] ah ... ok [22:25] :) [22:25] anyway, no matter what I send it, the first warrior always wins. [22:25] So far I've usually parsed the output of the program to get the result of a fight [22:25] ah. [22:25] Hey, you've found the magic warrior :) [22:26] yes, all of them are magic. :) [22:26] it is very weird actually. [22:26] since the interface is supposed to be the same.. [22:26] well, everything is supposed to be the same [22:27] I can only imagine that something with the warrior format has "changed" [22:27] not necessarily the format.. [22:27] but something related to it. [22:27] maybe not though. I am stumped. [22:28] (you see, fluffy, I don't "parse" its output because I keep the core in memory) [22:29] Just wait some more days and my shiny new PyCorwar is ready and then I'll publish a MARS, that is way faster than exhaust-ma [22:29] a few days? [22:29] haven't you just finished the parser after weeks? [22:30] "few days" = "weeks" [22:30] I see :) [22:33] I will go get some food [22:33] see you [22:33] and I get some sleep [22:33] * Fluffy waves [22:33] * anne juggles grease [22:33] Part: Fluffy left #corewars [22:42] MSG: Ping timeout: 252 seconds [22:46] Congratulations to inversed! "Biomass2 test" enters 94nop on place 20. :) [22:46] Jens Gutzeit's "Dreaming of Dreams" was pushed off at age 2. All must come to pass :/