[00:04] Join: John joined #corewars [00:04] Hi [02:02] hrm [02:13] American pain relievers taste like candy. [02:13] well, chewing gum really [02:14] american bourbon tastes like.. well bourbon. [02:14] and stainless steel does not taste edible really. [02:23] Roy: I finally get it. [02:24] Roy: I am quite happy to have found the solution to the problem, really. it saves me much work and quite a bit of related thinking [02:24] so, yes. you could say that I am done here :) [02:35] * brx sings [04:00] Join: brx` joined #corewars [04:03] MSG: Ping timeout: 252 seconds [05:38] MSG: Quit: Chatzilla 0.9.70 [Firefox 1.5.0.1/2006011112] [06:20] Join: Mizcu joined #corewars [06:58] MSG: [09:14] Join: Mizcu joined #corewars [11:52] Join: caesar joined #corewars [11:55] MSG: Client Quit [12:05] Join: DrewHK joined #corewars [12:10] MSG: [12:31] Join: fiveop joined #corewars [12:59] Nick Change: brx` changed nick to brx [13:41] MSG: Read error: Operation timed out [14:14] Join: Fluffy joined #corewars [14:14] :) [14:15] It seems, that I have found yet another bug in pMARS :-( [14:29] ... posted it to rgc, maybe someone else know sth. about it [14:37] *knows [14:46] hrm, I think what pmars does is sensible [14:46] what you want it to do sucks. [14:46] but, I don't know what the standard has to say on this [14:47] According to the description in the docs of pmars, EQU is supposed to be a pure string replacement [14:48] so why do you ask rgc? [14:48] pMARS even prints the correct term in its debug output [14:48] I haven't written pMARS' debugger. That's why I ask [14:48] Maybe it is supposed to be some arcane feature [14:49] if what you said is true, that is not a reasonable possibility [14:50] actually, I have read the parser's source code before. [14:50] I only want to hear, that I'm right and pMARS isn't. That way I can keep my current parser implementation [14:50] [14:50] it evaluates lazily. but it does not distinguish between string replacement and expression evaluation afaik [14:51] I mean, it doesn't do it one after the other [14:51] in series [14:51] brx: How would you evaluate "800 - 3 * (3/2 + 1) + 3"? [14:51] is that a serious question? [14:51] yes [14:51] you didn't read my message [14:52] +then [14:52] I've read it, but pMARS should do, what people expect it to do [14:52] that's my I want you to evaluate the expr [14:52] intuitively without knowing the standard [14:52] I'd expect pmars to evaluate v3's expression first, and then place it into v4 [14:53] yes, that's what I've figured, but was that intended? [14:53] so we'd end up with (800 - 9) [14:53] seeing its debug output, I would say no. [14:53] obviously [14:55] you don't need anyone's help with this. you have the standard, you have other mars implementations, you have the source code for each. [14:56] But there is only one parser implementation [14:56] and that is pMARS' [14:57] check the fmars sources. [14:58] I think [15:00] Interesting, didn't know, that fmars has more than a simple parser [15:37] Join: johnkw joined #corewars [15:48] Join: joonas joined #corewars [15:49] Hi :) [15:49] hi [15:50] i think your bug might be a known issue with pmars' expression evaluator. [15:51] same as the one bug-databse at sourceforge? [15:51] *one->one in [15:52] don't know, haven't checked [15:52] is it the one about - being associated wrongly? [15:52] yes [15:52] So far I've found 3 warriors at Koenigstuhl, which are affected. [15:52] :/ [15:54] And before I forget: thanks for the answer :) [15:54] i have a patch from tobias that fixes it. i think he's published it too. [15:55] Do you have the URL of the patch? [15:55] always meant to include it in the patch set i put out, but never got around to it. [15:55] no, but i can send it to you. [15:55] would be nice [15:55] [15:56] sent [15:56] the expression evaluator is a little hairy. :) [15:56] tobias really nailed it tho. great stuff. [15:57] Yes, I still have problems to understand it and mostly rely on examples [15:57] congrats on your surface thing [15:57] thank, but all the others did all the work [15:57] I've only waited for the patches to flow in [15:57] aw.. don't be so modest. :) [15:58] has will been about? [15:58] two days ago, I think [15:58] hm. k. [15:59] you have diestel's graph theory book right? [15:59] yes [15:59] great book [15:59] expensive tho [15:59] it's online now, however, in all it's glory. :) [16:00] yes? where? [16:00] on diestel's page. [16:00] it's the 3rd ed. w/ fixes. [16:00] Found it. thanks :) [16:02] joonas: You should change "#define STANDALONE 1" into "#define STANDALONE 0" or there will be a compile problem [16:02] heh [16:03] Seems to fix the problem. Nice [16:04] bleh.. know anything about solaris? [16:04] * joonas is so lost with solaris. :/ [16:04] Nice book by Stanislav Lem? [16:04] :-D [16:05] hehe ... no, I've never worked with it [16:07] so any progress on the p2p evolver thing? [16:08] don't think so ... we all wait for someone to implement something [16:13] hi j, been a while [16:13] hi miz [16:14] skimming through http://poignantguide.net/ruby/chapter-3.html [16:14] it's funny :) [16:20] the author reminds me of the badger in "it's all gone pete tong." [16:21] maybe that's because i'm skipping all the text and just looking at the strips [16:24] also, weirdly, of brx [16:24] but i probably shouldn't have said that. [16:51] MSG: Remote host closed the connection [17:08] cya [17:08] MSG: Quit: Leaving. [17:15] Join: brx joined #corewars [17:40] Part: Fluffy left #corewars [17:44] Join: bvowk joined #corewars [17:44] hrm. [17:46] Join: sf joined #corewars [17:47] heya sf [17:47] Hello [17:47] how's it going? [17:47] see met? [17:50] Hi [17:52] * bvowk rattles sf to get that greeting unstuck [17:52] Greetings bvowk, how are you! [17:53] I'm great! 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