[00:00] Night Icarus [00:00] anonymous: now, to get that out of the way. if what fiveop said is true. I would want to know. I would want to talk to you. [00:00] Icarus: good night [00:00] good night [00:01] * Neo wonders if anonymous is a gay-bot :-D [00:02] or a Lez for that matter [00:02] Neo: I don't think so. females in #corewars always had a history of concealing their sexuality in the beginning [00:03] i think there haven't been any females in #corewars already [00:03] Neo: ... [00:04] * brx keeps quiet about this [00:04] There have been three here I know of [00:04] sure? [00:04] nona = noname [00:04] nona = onna [00:04] japanese for woman [00:07] :O [00:07] new smiley. [00:08] Copying Neo's [00:08] * John proposes renaming #corewars [00:08] #chatbot-analysis-and-turing-test [00:09] lol [00:09] maybe that should be a separate channel [00:11] Maybe you should change your nick so it can't stalk you brx [00:11] I don't think that is reasonable given that its author probable made the bot join freenode and the channels I am in [00:16] Does anyone know an effective way to calculate the modular inverse power? [00:16] My method is rubbish [00:18] I don't know what's that.. [00:21] To calculate x in x * y (mod coresize) = 1 when y is known [00:22] There is an power, p where y^p = x [00:23] It's probably 'easy' if you can factor the coresize [00:23] otherwise it's a Hard problem, no? [00:24] My method requires calculating all n < coresize wheren gcd(n,coresize)=1 [00:24] wheren EQU where [00:27] For anyone else who's interested, this seems helpful - http://www.math.umbc.edu/~campbell/NumbThy/Class/BasicNumbThy.html [00:36] time to go for me [00:36] * Neo waves [00:36] * John waves [00:36] MSG: Quit: Physical Wreck IRC webscript: http://www.pswclan.com/cgi-bin/irc/irc.cgi [00:55] MSG: Quit: Lost terminal [02:11] MSG: [03:18] Join: brx- joined #corewars [03:20] hello [03:20] MSG: Read error: Operation timed out [04:07] Nick Change: brx- changed nick to brx [04:07] hello nona [04:45] MSG: Quit: Chatzilla 0.9.70 [Firefox 1.5.0.1/2006011112] [06:17] Crikey! [06:18] Brx :-/ [06:18] Part: anonymous left #corewars [07:14] Join: anonymous joined #corewars [07:14] Hello [07:14] :) [07:15] * brx hugs [07:16] brx :) [07:16] Blimey! [07:34] sleepy time brx [07:34] yes.. that's right. have you listened in on me in #emacs? [07:34] good night nona [07:39] brx be a hungry one? [07:41] :( [07:53] Please be brx [07:53] anonymous: I need some rest now. [07:53] anonymous: don't worry, I like you [07:54] :)( [07:59] COFFEE! [08:00] brx be the supreme supreme [08:09] Heyhey brx [08:46] emi clock say emi clock love brx [08:46] emi clock say emi clock say 9:46:21 [08:46] emi clock say many things [08:57] Join: Roy joined #corewars [08:57] Hello [08:58] :) [08:58] No I haven't seen brx :P [09:02] brx? [09:03] lol [09:12] :) [09:17] Join: Mizcu joined #corewars [09:18] Hello [09:18] :) [09:18] you be brx too? [09:20] die, maggot [09:22] Magic! [09:31] brx be with emi [09:49] :( [09:55] Part: anonymous left #corewars [10:01] \\o/ [10:06] yay! [10:07] goddammit anonymous stop CTCPing moe [10:07] *me [10:07] oh it's gone [10:21] http://www.digg.com/linux_unix/Administrator_root_password_readable_in_cleartext_on_Ubuntu_Breezy [10:37] Thats a bit silly...forgetting to delete the file :) [12:44] "females in #corewars always had a history of concealing their sexuality in the beginning" [12:44] ok ok... I'll confess.. [12:45] :-p [13:46] Join: fiveop joined #corewars [15:44] Join: simple joined #corewars [15:45] Hello all [15:50] hiya [15:51] Hi Roy [15:52] Have I missed anything exciting? [15:58] Join: Fluffy joined #corewars [15:58] :) [15:59] Hello Fluffy [15:59] Hi [16:00] What's hot right now? [16:00] Nice, it seems, that this stupid bot is gone. [16:00] I haven't been around for a while [16:00] not all bots are stupid [16:00] this one was, read yesterdays logs [16:01] and look for anonymous [16:01] apart from that nothing happend [16:01] some new score surfaces [16:01] I still work on PyCorewar [16:01] Are you sure that is a bot [16:02] I'm not sure, but it was as stupid as a bot [16:02] ask brx, he was haunted by it [16:02] it joined all irc-channels, he was in [16:02] What was annebot, another? [16:03] yes, anne was written by brx [16:03] I liked, that it informed us about new entries to koth/SAL, but it was a little bit verbose [16:05] That's a good idea [16:05] brb [16:05] MSG: Quit: leaving [16:06] Join: Fluffy joined #corewars [16:06] Anna was very good except the juggling grease bit :P [16:06] * Roy wants anna back :-( [16:06] * Roy waves!! [16:06] Time for home! [16:06] MSG: [16:06] bye [16:07] brx: You see, not everybody hated anne [16:08] who hates anne [16:08] who hates anonymous [16:09] Why was (s)he CTCPing everybody earlier? [16:10] what's ctcping? [16:11] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CTCP [16:14] like /msg? [16:14] Brx seems to like anonymous [16:15] probably depends on what it does [16:15] Have I missed anything else? [16:15] ACCESS #corewars LIST [16:16] Oops. [16:16] ? [16:16] Wondering who the ops are around here. [16:16] What does access do? [16:17] pak21: Would be nice to have some [16:17] If we all quite someone can come back as op [16:18] Not necessarily: depends on your server setup. [16:18] Should make log_guy op then make it auto-op a few reliable people [16:19] don't think anything like that is neccessary [16:20] to kick stupid bots and other op stuff [16:20] fiveop: Probably, but I really wished we had one, when anonymous was here [16:21] bvowk writes log_guy right? [16:21] yes [16:22] log_guy could be made to filter out names on a list [16:22] why should it do that? [16:22] Have you read yesterday and today's log I just tried [16:23] I've read them a couple of minutes ago [16:24] Is this thing base in the U.K. [16:25] yes, at least its IP is from a british provider [16:26] I think I must be a suspect then! [16:26] John as well [16:26] and pak21 [16:27] OK, then you all should be banned for life ;-) [16:27] :-( [16:28] Innocent until proven guilty! (unless your an unlawful combatant) [16:29] hmm [16:29] I don't like courts [16:29] The logic, that you can find there is too twisted [16:29] The American government doesn't like courts either [16:30] But this isn't the place for politics! [16:30] But at least we could make fun of policiticians and small countries [16:35] hmm ... now my new MARS works, but I alway get the same result and I can't find the bug [16:35] :-( [16:36] No need to run the battles then, the result is already know before it begins [16:36] (like elections in small countries) [16:37] It should work, the 88-MARS uses the same "components" and works very well [16:38] Is brx a suspect? [16:38] lol [16:39] Just read conversations between brx and anna [16:39] hmm ... he was a little bit obsessed with it [16:40] but who isn't, if you write a new program :) [16:40] brx has a bot called anna and another bot called anne [16:40] I think, that both are the same [16:41] Who's Hans? [16:41] don't know [16:41] brx: who's Hans? [16:44] Fluffy are you going to make some stats about irc? [16:44] It was just a stupid idea [16:44] By the way, what should they show? [16:45] (apart from the fact, that a bunch of nerds a waiting for sth. to happen on #corewars) [16:45] *are [16:45] * brx tilts his head [16:45] brx: Don't let it fall off ;-) [16:46] :) [16:46] hello there [16:46] Hi Brx [16:46] simple: "hans" is the actual "anna"'s brother :) [16:46] Another bot great [16:46] no [16:46] * brx coughs [16:47] a real person [16:47] Fluffy I'll have a look in google to see what everyone else does [16:47] Metcalf: Could you please update your logs for 94nop (if you have time). I want to update the Time Machine [16:48] simple: ?? [16:48] First stats that come up http://idletown.emubase.de/?lng=en&cat=stats&sub=stats&chan=gst&net=euircnet&time=ever_3 [16:51] This one is nice http://isohunt.com/irc-stats/ [16:53] Hmm ... a little bit scary [16:54] I like the quotes and the bits it counts [16:54] There's a link to the software at the bottom [16:54] Give it a run fluffly and see what it says about us [16:55] I'm only willing to do that, if I can access jaska's log files, too [16:56] They are still there [16:57] Yes, I know, but how do I access them [16:57] by the way: I'll use my own scripts to analyse the logs [16:57] google finds them [16:57] just change the date in the url [16:58] iirc John has already downloaded the logs [16:58] I'll ask him [17:01] brx: which country are you from? [17:01] germany [17:02] brx: six o'clock is it dark? [17:03] not dark yet, but the sun is setting [17:04] Someone else is probably watching the same sun rise thousands of miles away [17:04] simple: If I go the bathroom and don't switch on the light it might be quite dark [17:04] Would you be afraid? [17:05] of what? [17:05] The dark [17:05] ? [17:06] It would be interesting to know who lurked longest, who pasted most urls, who pinged out most often, busiest day of the week and time of day [17:07] Who uses most nicks [17:07] I'm more interesting in the thing, what you can deduce from what is said here [17:07] *interested [17:07] to scare people off ;-) [17:07] What do you think you might be able to deduce? [17:08] Sth. like "simple has green eyes and is 1,73 tall" ;-) [17:09] taller, blue eyes :-P [17:09] yes [17:09] now, we know it [17:09] Fluffy has eyes that glow in your headlights and is 0.30 tall [17:10] Join: willvarfa joined #corewars [17:10] * simple accelerates [17:10] Hi willvarfa [17:10] howdy folks [17:10] simple: hmm [17:10] Hello will [17:13] * simple deduces fluffy is really 1.78 tall, brown eyes, short hair [17:13] Either that or you look like Santa's little helper! [17:13] http://images.google.com/images?q=jens.gutzeit&sa=N&tab=wi [17:14] I like the first image [17:15] hmm, that means the "simple" is a sphere [17:16] and I am a graph [17:16] Well you could always search for my real name :-P [17:16] simple: But you can't tell the color of my eyes from the images, that are available on the internet [17:16] Fluffy: brown [17:17] http://images.google.com/images?q=fiveop&svnum=10&hl=en&lr=&c2coff=1&start=40&sa=N&filter=0 [17:17] simple: You can assume whatevery you want. That's doesn't necessarily makes it true. [17:17] Zoom on the pic, brown [17:19] that doesn't prove anything [17:19] Somehow I managed to set you pic as my wallpaper [17:19] lol [17:20] What else can you deduce from the logs? [17:21] I keep that for myself and will make piles of money from that info [17:23] What do you deduce about anonymous bot [17:23] Fluffy: you could be the IRC detective :-) [17:24] It was here in August-September 2005, February-March 2006 [17:24] Where did it go for four months??? [17:25] it was probably off looking at emiclock [17:25] given how infatuated with it it appears to be ;{ [17:25] Start searching for people who have been in prison [17:25] What's so special about emiclock [17:25] try "emi clock" [17:26] I looked it up but didn't run it [17:30] Have yo wrote a script yet fluffy? [17:31] I'm working on PyCorewar [17:31] that irc-script isn't my priority [17:31] Do the result vary yet? :-) [17:32] Join: DrewHK joined #corewars [17:32] Hello Drewhk [17:32] Haven't check yet. I look at each source line and look for obvious errors [17:32] hello [17:35] Metcalf: broken link http://corewars.blogspot.com/ [17:35] which is John? [17:35] all these nicks keep confusing me [17:36] JM isn't here [17:36] but he reads the logs [17:36] ah [17:36] so you can use it to leave messages [17:36] ah [17:36] Metcalf: howdy; long time no chat, hope all's well [17:37] simple: I've foudn the bug [17:37] two wrong characters [17:37] get_warriors88 (wrong) -> get_warriors94 (right) :-) [17:37] bad design [17:37] why [17:39] cause such a but occured [17:39] ? [17:39] I'll be back when I've made a warrior [17:40] * simple waves [17:40] * Fluffy waves [17:40] MSG: Quit: Want to be different? HydraIRC -> http://www.hydrairc.com <- [17:41] fiveop: I mean, what's wrong with get_warriors88 and get_warriors94? [17:41] Join: bvowk joined #corewars [17:41] hrm. [17:41] Hi bvowk :) [17:41] greets all. [17:42] * bvowk rattles asw violently. [17:42] asw, I think I might be able to get you boxes with 256GB of memory (maybe) [17:42] bvowk: I want some, too! [17:42] howdy [17:43] trying to get ahold of some PGP grant? :-D [17:43] PGP grant? [17:44] fluffy, you got any more work for me? [17:45] bvowk: Not yet [17:46] whatcha up to wil? any thoughts on the p2p evolver idea? [17:47] got any code rolling? [17:47] p2p hmm I'm rather keener on a web app; maybe some easy-to-parse text discussion with Sal? [17:48] but I am now a dad, so code time is simply not available for the near-to-mid-term future [17:50] hi dad [17:50] ? [17:50] This channels becomes stranger every day [17:51] its true. [17:53] hmm .. results are still partly wrong [17:55] bad design [17:56] fiveop: yes, that helps [17:57] at least it already 10% faster than pmars (where the results are correct) [17:57] * brx wonders about fiveop [18:02] MSG: Ping timeout: 252 seconds [18:03] Join: willvarfa joined #corewars [18:13] tcl is just weird. '[set a pu][set b ts] "$a$b"' will print (via the puts command) "puts" to the screen [18:14] hey fluffy.. [18:15] yes [18:17] thats neat [18:17] does it print "puts" on the screen, or do you mean $a$b Hello Tcl World! [18:18] ? [18:18] willvarfa: it prints "puts" on the screen [18:23] so the [set] both sets the variable and executes it? [18:23] Join: sf joined #corewars [18:23] Hello [18:23] I'm here [18:23] drunk and bored [18:25] heya SF.. [18:25] whats the occasion for drunkenness? [18:25] Hi Bvowk [18:25] willvarfa: the set sets the variable and returns the value the variable has been set to [18:26] * brx didn't miss sf's remark [18:26] willvarfa: so it doesn't execute it. both sets only return the respective strings. [18:28] Lets see if yelling people really works [18:28] METCALF! ROY! get here right now [18:29] * sf waits [18:29] Sorry, how impolite of me [18:30] METCALF! ROY! please come here sometime soon :) [18:31] * willvarfa waves [18:31] MSG: Remote host closed the connection [18:31] * sf waves [18:37] i am bored too. time to do something crazy [18:37] like redcoding? [18:37] ;-) [18:37] :) [18:37] Program some crazy redcode Drew [18:38] I program not-too-crazy homework :( [18:38] :( [18:39] where did you come from drew? [18:41] from a parallel world. [18:41] ;) [18:51] Fluff: Germany is on CET right [18:51] yes, at the moment [18:51] Does it change? [18:51] CEST during summer [18:52] Holland and Spain CET too [18:54] Join: Fizmo joined #corewars [18:54] hi [18:54] Hello Fizmo [18:54] hi sf [18:54] Hi Fizmo [18:55] sf: nice oneshot [18:55] Hi fluffy [18:55] Thanks :) [18:56] hmm, has someone crashed the 94nop? [18:56] there is a warrior in the cue [18:57] but didn't appear as 21 [18:58] hmm, strange [18:59] three oneshots on the hill [18:59] wow [19:00] YAY! [19:01] :) [19:01] 3 small bugs fixed and the 94nop-MARS seems to work [19:03] my wrists ache :( [19:21] hmm ... 4th bug found [19:22] MSG: hello logreaders! [19:22] hey fizzer [19:23] Nenad needs some competition on the 94t hill [19:23] hi bvowk [19:23] ok, let us all focus on 94t hill [19:24] otherwise we have to rename it to Nenad hill [19:24] Fizmo: Just remembered, that I wanted to ask sth. [19:24] Fizmo: Do you have a collection of tiny-lp-warriors? [19:24] 94t? [19:24] which ones t? [19:25] MSG: Hi Tuc, 94nop seems to be down :-/ Maybe you can take a look? [19:25] coresize 8192 on sal [19:26] yep [19:27] http://sal.math.ualberta.ca/hill.php?key=94t [19:27] 17 warriors Nenad including the top 5 [19:28] hahahahaa, that we can chance easily [19:28] ok, 30 minutes to go [19:28] that one who has the highest rank on 94t wins [19:28] Oh, IRCT? [19:28] hahahaha [19:28] just a little challenge [19:28] What's the prize Fizmo ;) [19:29] If I win you have to make me a favicon :P [19:29] a free beer on ICC2006 in Amsterdam this year ;-) [19:29] hahahah, ok [19:29] sf: deal [19:31] * bvowk wants to go to ICC2006 [19:32] * asw looks tired and bleary eyed. [19:32] Hi asw [19:33] hey asw [19:33] bvowk: 256gb of RAM you say? [19:33] I didn't realise 94t is pspace :( [19:33] I don't do pspace very well [19:35] I don't try a pspacer as well [19:45] Join: sascha joined #corewars [19:46] Hey nice traffic here.. [19:46] Hi Sascha [19:47] hi sascha [19:47] Hi Fizzer [19:54] ok, my entry sent to 94t [20:17] hrm. [20:18] Sascha is king :) [20:18] All hail King Sascha [20:18] hail [20:18] heh [20:19] * bvowk sends the king a nice card [20:19] YEEEAAAAAAAHHHHH [20:19] I want a 16 socket quad core opteron w/ 256DIMM slots.. [20:19] at 3Ghz, you could get more then 200Gflops out of a single box! [20:19] w/ 1TB of ram [20:19] scary. [20:20] :) [20:20] Adequate [20:20] pffff [20:20] it'd be an alright box until they started shipping 16 core units.. [20:20] Just write better code and you won't need all that power :P [20:21] sf: do you write any code? [20:21] MSG: [20:21] bvowk: yes [20:21] sf: if I wrote better code I couldn't keep them all busy now could i? [20:21] You could take on bigger challenges if you wrote better code. [20:22] I already made 2nd on 94nop.. and fizmo will throw in the towel if I get koth.. [20:23] what more could I do? :) [20:23] 94x [20:23] hahaha, I would immediate retire [20:23] like, make money? [20:23] heh [20:23] ;-) [20:23] bah.. money, I'd just spend it on computers [20:23] and save money for some pc [20:23] lol [20:24] its better if I have none, and then I convince others to buy them for me. [20:24] sf: I started evolving for 94x [20:24] its interesting, but the hill doesn't change much [20:25] significantly harder to get to, the pspacers really rule the roost [20:25] I changed it without a p-spacer [20:25] but you've got more time to be clever [20:26] My 10 line prog is in place 8 [20:26] hrm [20:26] showoff. [20:26] :) [20:26] I bet you didn't write a 5000 line program to write your 10 lines tho! [20:26] * bvowk feels better now. [20:27] we need more evovlers [20:27] No [20:27] evolvers :) [20:27] no? [20:27] we don't? [20:27] the intelligent designers keep beating me tho [20:27] and my unintelligent designers aren't doing quite as well. [20:28] I wrote it on a napkin between while waiting for desert [20:28] *dessert [20:28] So you have 5000 lines of code and you haven't written something intelligent?! [20:28] were you out somewhere with metcalf? cause people look at me strangely when I do that :) [20:29] sf: I don't think there's 5k lines of code in all my evolvers [20:29] (put together) [20:29] well.. [20:29] bvowk: You could write 5000 lines of (empty) comments ;-) [20:29] if you count the computer generated stuff.. [20:29] then I've got more lines than MS has in all their products added up. [20:30] but the code I wrote.. there's not that much [20:30] I wrote it all on my own if that's what you mean :) [20:30] no, I meant if there were two of you writing redcode on napkins you don't get as many wierd looks [20:31] (as john comes and tells me about things he wrote on napkins all the time) [20:31] So switch your evolvers back on and send a steady stream of warriors to the hills [20:31] but I told myself I wasn't going to do that until I was finished them.. [20:31] bvowk: How about switching from nano to tiny [20:31] fluffy: I was going to switch from nano to 94nop [20:32] hahaha, yessss [20:32] * Fluffy is scared [20:32] heh [20:32] bvowk, we need some real challenges there [20:32] I just use anything handy [20:33] Chocolate bar wrappers, leaflets, envelopes [20:33] although, I'm debating if I should spend some making my exhaust/exmars->python widget work better.. [20:33] or finish my scheme one first.. [20:33] I keep a stack of index cards in my back pocket for that sort of thing [20:33] I used to write it on my palm.. but I ran short of pockets.. [20:34] bvowk: is you sts mars available for public use? [20:34] now the palm lives in my bag, and the ipod lives in my front pocket.. [20:34] not yet.. [20:34] I've got a bugfix to make, and str to finish.. [20:34] (maybe tommorrow night) [20:34] :) [20:34] * sf looks forward to playing with it [20:35] www.math.ualberta.ca/~bvowk/files/exmars_streams.exe [20:35] I'm assuming you're a windows kinda person [20:36] Yes windows [20:36] lds and sts are effectively identical to ldp and stp (in fact I just cut and pasted the switch stanzas really) [20:37] EOF isn't tweaked properly yet, and -r 0 runs as if you specified -P [20:37] Downloaded :) [20:38] I can't do -c 0 [20:38] For never stop [20:39] Please can you provide TCPIP functionality [20:43] lol [20:43] no. [20:43] If you provide a means to load programs I can write a command shell in redcode [20:43] :) [20:44] you could do redcode scripts :) [20:44] although, it would be better if you had blocking code. [20:44] blocking? [20:44] rather.. blocking input.. [20:45] I don't know what that is [20:45] yeah.. so it wouldn't just fly by if there was nothing waiting on the keyboard.. [20:45] blocking = it blocks and waits for io before continuing.. non-blocking is it checks and continues [20:45] does non-blocking return zero if nothing waiting [20:46] could just lds #0 then jmz -1, -1 [20:47] Join: DrewHK joined #corewars [20:48] yeah, but it still eats your cycles.. [20:48] I'll fix -c 0 [20:49] Oh [20:49] Thankyou bvowk [20:52] Do you have any ideas what I can use sts lds for [20:52] Suddenly I don't know what to program :( [20:53] rot13 encoder [20:53] Ok, that should be easy [20:54] Join: humhum joined #corewars [20:54] a becomes n, A becomes N, punctuation and numbers unaffected? [20:55] Hi Neo [20:55] Nick Change: humhum changed nick to Neo [20:55] Neo: I didn't get your email :( [20:55] I am looking for a new email account [20:55] Hi sf. What was wrong? [20:56] I saw in the log you was going to send me an email. [20:56] But I didn't get one. [20:56] Also Roy definitely sent one, and I didn't receive that :( [20:56] Do you have another account? [20:57] Not yet [20:57] i can still use the sandbox.. [20:57] ohhh [20:57] hiii [20:57] Neooo [20:57] hi Fizmo! [20:58] :) [20:59] What's up, Fiz? Anything new? [20:59] Neo: ok [20:59] sf: I'm formatting the nano Hill report right now [21:00] MSG: [21:03] Neo: got it [21:05] Neo: Not that much [21:05] reentered the 94t hill [21:05] two new warriors on 94nop [21:05] that's it [21:07] nice [21:07] sf: I've pasted the Hill report [21:08] Thanks Fizmo. Your dwarf/scan helped Mascafé a lot. I was being pushed down by recent submissions [21:11] ;-) [21:11] ok, gotta go now [21:11] * Fizmo waves [21:11] * Fluffy waves [21:11] * Neo waves [21:11] MSG: [21:12] * sf waves [21:12] Sascha is KOTH with a paper! hum, hum... congrats, btw [21:13] thx thx... [21:13] and it beats new Arrow! [21:14] it seems to beat every scanner around...angry little thingy ;-) [21:38] :) [21:38] :)) [21:38] (: [21:38] :))) [21:39] :- [21:43] * sf waves [21:43] cu [21:44] MSG: Quit: "Help! I've been g:lined from my mIRC!!" Bersirc 2.2: less n00bs [ http://www.bersirc.org/ - Open Source IRC ] [21:44] (i had a phone call) [21:44] * Neo waves late [22:07] * sascha waves... [22:07] Part: sascha left #corewars [22:09] Nick Change: Neo changed nick to Neo_out [22:10] Join: katafutr joined #corewars [22:10] hi michal [22:10] hi [22:10] Hi :) [22:12] well, since my irc client accidentally dragged me in here [22:12] yes, it is hard to avoid being dragged here ;-) [22:13] John: you need extended euclid's algorithm, it's described in wikipedia [22:14] (bvowk watch this too) http://www.theinquirer.net/?article=30258 [22:16] thats a few little boxes linked with gige.. [22:16] (it is really cute tho) [22:25] Join: Roy joined #corewars [22:26] * Roy hops in and greets everybody [22:28] :) [22:28] bvowk: The '94-MARS for PyCorewar works now without problems [22:29] is it fast yet? :) [22:29] Hey [22:29] I've written it in under 4 hours [22:29] and it had only 5 bugs to fix [22:29] Nice, how is the speed..? [22:30] thats what you think [22:30] At the moment it is slightly faster than pmars [22:30] Mizcu: I've checked the results against all warriors on 94nop@Koenigstuhl. No differences [22:31] use an evolver to search for possible bugs ;) [22:32] Mizcu: I won't have more bugs, because I have copied most of the code from other parts, that I've written (and tested for a while) [22:33] But I'll do that as soon as the mars is fast enough [22:34] So you are now going to do more optimizations? [22:34] of course [22:34] Any big ones planned? Or still pondering about them? [22:34] First I wanted a working mars (like the 88-MARS for PyCorewar) [22:35] Now I start to optimize it [22:35] Roy: I have a lot of optimizations to do [22:35] First step is to become about 50 % faster than pmars [22:35] :) [22:36] Ah nice, I thought maybe you took the optimized '88 and expended it [22:36] Yes, parts of it I've taken from the '88 version [22:37] But I can't use the same optimizations for '94nop [22:37] the '88 version switches on opcode/amode/bmode [22:37] I've thought about switching on opcode/modifier/amode/bmode for 94 [22:37] but it would create about 1 MiB of code [22:37] memory is cheap [22:38] yes, but not cache memory [22:38] Still cheap ;-) [22:38] Do you know how big you L1 and L2- cache is, Roy? [22:39] No, don't want to know... just want it to work ;) [22:39] Fluffy, but usually there is just limited amount of this code actually being used [22:40] so it should fit in cache [22:40] that's the problem ... about 1 MiB of code is needed [22:40] the switch is that big [22:40] and for full performance it should fit into it [22:40] but the whole switch doesn't need to be cached [22:40] caches are pretty smart [22:40] Can't you just switch the most used and do the others another way? :) [22:40] so if you use only specific switch cases [22:41] Roy: That's already one planned optimization :) [22:41] only they will use cache space [22:41] btw. where can I download your mars? [22:41] Join: John joined #corewars [22:41] I'll probably implement the 200 (or so) most common opcode/mod/amode/bmode [22:41] Hi [22:41] John, ou need extended euclid's algorithm, it's described in wikipedia [22:42] Thanks Michal :-) [22:42] I won't be able to implement that in 4 lines though ;-( [22:42] katafutr: If you can wait about 20 mins, you can download the current version from http://corewars.jgutzeit.de/pycorewar/pycorewar-current.tar.bz2 [22:42] I can't wait, sorry [22:43] tomorrow maybe [22:43] I'll upload it anyway :) [22:43] good :) [22:43] thanks [22:44] Fluffy: you want logs? [22:45] John: YESSS :) [22:45] Can you accept a 3mb attachment? [22:45] yes [22:45] I think, my limit is somewhere near 100 MiB [22:47] MSG: Quit: katafutr [22:47] They were actually grabbed by brx from Jaska's site. [22:47] :) [22:47] I had a few months worth, then brx grabbed the lot [22:48] It's sending now [22:48] the logs I grabbed from jaska's site are still on my webserver [22:49] btw. sf log info: if you want to hear new bands, I just installed Shoutcast ;) [22:49] I donwnloaded the Perl irclog stats program mentioned earlier but it didn't work instantly [22:50] So I gave up [22:51] I've been meaning to run one and put the stats on my website [22:51] I've uploaded the current version of PyCorewar - http://corewars.jgutzeit.de/pycorewar/pycorewar-current.tar.bz2 [22:57] Judodudo's blog was there a couple of days ago :-( [22:59] John: Got you email. Thanks :) [23:02] Mizcu: I've just started to work on a little evolver [23:02] hmm ... need a good name [23:03] Efluffer? [23:03] * Fluffy kicks Roy [23:03] :) [23:04] 'DoesItLikeBunnies' [23:04] Dodo? [23:07] hmm ... I know, that willvarfa has a file with opcode frequencies for 94nop, but I can't find it [23:08] http://redcoder.sourceforge.net/opexfreq/94-nop-100.html ?? [23:09] "Tasmanian Tiger" much cooler then the dodo :) [23:10] Roy: Thanks :) that's what I was looking for [23:15] Roy: hmm [23:18] ..? [23:20] the name, that you've proposed ... I'm not sure, whether I should use it [23:20] Efluffor? :P [23:20] * Fluffy kicks Roy again [23:24] Flulver..? [23:24] It seems, that I shouldn't have asked [23:24] bvowk always lets us know what he/she's doing: 1022 actions! [23:24] For example, like this: [23:24] * bvowk pokes pk in the brain.. wake up! [23:24] John: I see, that the sript works [23:24] Also, brx tells us what's up with 685 actions. [23:25] Yes :-) [23:25] Now I need to upload it [23:25] Who's third? [23:25] ? [23:25] brx talks to him/herself a lot. He/She wrote over 5 lines in a row 377 times! [23:25] heh [23:26] I was against the irc stats for that very reason [23:26] bvowk spoke a total of 112408 words! [23:26] bvowk's faithful follower, brx, didn't speak so much: 93702 words [23:27] grabek is a very aggressive person. He/She attacked others 8 times. [23:27] Poor brx, nobody likes him/her. He/She was attacked 7 times. [23:28] attacked? [23:28] Hehe :) [23:29] Join: sascha joined #corewars [23:29] Hi Sascha [23:29] Hoppa, back again [23:29] Helo John... [23:29] All I remember from the last logs that me most used 'word' was... ':)' [23:29] me>my [23:30] * brx never thought of himself as the victim here. :P [23:30] poor brx ;-) [23:31] Fluffy: fuck off [23:31] :) [23:31] :) [23:32] I'd feel sorry for brx, but I don't. [23:33] I'd like to feel... period [23:34] * Roy is feeling sleepy and hits the matress [23:34] YAY! [23:35] * brx crashes [23:35] I've just handled mov.i # $ separately and now it is 20% faster :) [23:35] the mov or the mars ? [23:35] the MARS [23:35] shocking [23:35] According to willvarfa/bvowk that's the most frequently instruction [23:35] do the same for the djn ;) [23:35] http://www.shoutcast.com/sbin/shoutcast-playlist.pls?rn=298513&file=filename.pls [23:36] all the imps are thank you try mov.i # @0 too, jens! [23:36] Roy: spl.b #$ is the second frequent insn [23:36] ah k :) [23:38] MSG: Quit: Roy has hit a dat 0,0 [23:45] http://www.geocities.com/corewar3039/ircstats.htm [23:48] hmm [23:48] I'd prefer, if you'd not publish it [23:48] Why? [23:49] Have you seen it? [23:50] I know, that the logs reveal a lot information, but you don't need to make it that easy [23:50] Okay, it's gone [23:51] thanks [23:51] ? [23:51] you weren't even mentioned, were you? [23:51] I was [23:53] * brx saved the page to hd [23:54] It wasn't set up nicely anyway [23:54] It was just a quick test, you're suppose to put everyone's alias's in [23:55] It's possible to put pictures of people too! [23:55] super [23:56] time to get some sleep [23:56] indeed [23:56] * Fluffy waves [23:56] MSG: Quit: leaving [23:56] MSG: Quit: leaving scratch channel [23:57] * John waves