[00:06] Part: CL left #corewars [02:22] Join: Mizcu joined #corewars [05:21] Join: CL joined #corewars [05:40] hi CL [05:40] hi [05:41] if I submit a test warrior to one of the hills, I get an email back shortly listing it's performance? [05:41] yes [05:41] thank you [05:42] it might take up to 10 minutes with koth, and almost immediate with sal [05:42] ok [05:42] since koth chooses every 5-10 minutes a warrior from the queue to run, while sal runs immediately [05:59] Join: fiveop joined #corewars [06:15] "Unknown" by "Anonymous" has challenged the Beginners' hill [06:15] hmm, a couple lines didn't work [06:15] ;name Test-1 [06:15] ;author CL [06:15] but those didn't get picked up [06:24] OK, fixed that [07:13] This doesn't seem to be true nowdays: Note: Warriors on the beginner's hill are retired at age 100. [07:14] That would seem to be a good idea, since beginners could actually get on a hill. Might help hook some new people, if they had early sucesses [09:58] zzzz [09:58] There has been some talks about giving sal-b age-limit [09:59] how is the "age" determined? [10:00] every time a new warrior gets on the hill and one gets pushed off, all other warriors in the hill age by one point [10:00] OK, I guessed that. Need to sleep now [10:00] * CL is mugged by the sandman, ZZZZzzz... [10:02] however in Pizza -hill, every challenge aged the hill [10:05] Join: Core29 joined #corewars [10:10] That's not entirely the case: it was true up until some point, but then changed. [10:18] well, good to know [13:49] Part: Core29 left #corewars [15:54] Join: sf joined #corewars [15:54] Hello [15:54] hi [15:56] Benfica plays Barcelona tonight :) [15:59] Some processors allow relative addressing don't they? [15:59] I think 68000? [16:02] The Z80 allows relative addressing from certain "index registers" eg LD (IX+12), 34 [16:02] Maybe that's not quite the same thing, on second thought [16:03] I think 68K allows it from the IP [16:05] You'd have to have a routine somewhere which to pop IX, push IX, ret to set IX to IP and that would have to be an absolute call :( [16:06] But at least read/write ranges would be implemented by default ;) the addressing mode only allows indexing to +/-128 :) [16:22] MSG: Quit: I was using TinyIRC! Visit http://www.tinyirc.net/ for more information. [16:38] Join: Core29 joined #corewars [16:45] MSG: Quit: Trillian (http://www.ceruleanstudios.com [16:45] Join: Core29 joined #corewars [16:50] Join: raptor joined #corewars [16:51] corewar.co.uk [17:00] so? [17:04] Core war in the news http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/technology/4880022.stm [17:05] -_- [17:40] MSG: Quit: Chatzilla 0.9.72 [Firefox 1.0.6/20050716] [18:58] Join: John_ joined #corewars [18:58] Hi [19:01] Nick Change: John_ changed nick to John [19:02] Hi John [19:02] Hi CL [19:02] Are you trying to evolve something, or writing by hand? [19:03] constrained evolver [19:03] but hand ideas pop up too [19:04] You should try submitting to the multiwarrior hill too, it's easier than the beginner hill [19:05] actually, I was just making sure that I understood the email format and process, then I noticed the age on that beginners hill [19:06] Hopefully an age limit will be implemented soon [19:06] after I read that in the FAQ, I thought it was a good idea [19:07] it means chaos on the hill, but it is the beginners hill afterall [19:08] It isn't chaos [19:09] I remember playing on the original Pizza beginner hill, which had an age limit [19:09] Not many warriors reached age 100, and there weren't many strong warriors on the hill [19:09] I was guessing that when warriors were being booted for age, that it would get easier to get on the hill [19:09] ah [19:11] Yes, it make the hill easier to get onto :-) [19:12] which is good, I think [19:13] Definitely, otherwise beginners are discouraged [19:13] Too many good players have sent warriors to the beginner hill :-( [19:13] Hopefully they will remove them [19:14] they have probably forgotten that something is on the beginners hill [19:20] Join: datagram joined #corewars [19:20] Woot! King of the hill! [19:21] Sleeper code is where it's at [19:21] Join: John_ joined #corewars [19:22] Maybe we could have a newbie hill too [19:23] Either that, or kick off all the old warriors and non-beginner warriors :-) [19:23] MSG: Ping timeout: 252 seconds [19:23] Nick Change: John_ changed nick to John [19:25] hi John [19:25] Join: John_ joined #corewars [19:25] John, Nooo you can't kick anyone off the newbie hill because I finally got KOTH there lol [19:25] What's sleeper code? :-) [19:25] Congrats [19:26] John_, Build your strategy based on future trends of the hill warriors [19:26] Planter debuted at 17th, but worked his way up as people worked against the hill majority [19:26] :-) [19:26] hm [19:27] MSG: Ping timeout: 252 seconds [19:27] Worked out pretty well [19:27] Nick Change: John_ changed nick to John [19:28] Will hopefully give him added longevity [19:28] Tiny shall age! [19:28] Where does the name Planter come from? [19:29] John, ;) That's a mystery you must figure out [19:29] No, don't push off Alexandria :-( [19:30] hehe, the 'mystery'...so I send various test warriors to probe my opponents...hardly a game of "computer warrior against computer warrior".... [19:31] There are some interesting probe warriors, like CLP ;-) [19:31] Loses to everything except oneshots [19:31] heheh [19:32] John, As a hint, it's from a book [19:33] Join: John_ joined #corewars [19:34] John_, Connection problems? [19:34] Yes :-( [19:35] : ( [19:36] MSG: Ping timeout: 252 seconds [19:36] Nick Change: John_ changed nick to John [19:43] MSG: Ping timeout: 252 seconds [20:46] i guess you have few imps and some small bombing? [20:48] imp-thrower? [20:50] ? [20:50] analyzing what CL is sending to sal-b [20:52] I see [21:22] no, just playing with old published code, only reason I got on was S.Fernandes pulled Dragonfly for something much weaker [21:23] MSG: Quit: Trillian (http://www.ceruleanstudios.com [21:23] however, I have a few too many ideas now 8-( [21:24] MSG: Quit: humhum [21:24] well, i have quite same problem myself too [21:24] oops [21:25] shouldnt read and look at videoplayer at same time [21:27] well, remember that scanners dont work well with any other components [21:27] (exception, oneshot/imp can work) [21:29] ok [21:37] however almost every warrior at koth today uses quickscans before starting their main attack [21:41] Join: yournick joined #corewars [21:41] hello [21:41] hi [21:41] hi Mizcu. How is it going? [21:42] quite ok [21:42] Nick Change: yournick changed nick to Neogryzor [21:43] I don't know why, but when i try to connect with my nick i get bounced off [21:44] Very Very small/easy idea for a mini-challenge: Implement Duff Device on redcode. [21:44] (google for it if you dont know the name from before) [21:44] Neogryzor, Someone else using it...? [21:44] * Neogryzor is googling... [21:44] unlikely [21:44] datagram: No, nobody [21:50] Mizcu: Mmh, translated to redcode, looks like a simple loop. Maybe i didn't understant it at all. [21:52] also i don't understand why doesn't use ++ in *to... [21:53] see the second google-link [21:53] http://www.catb.org/jargon/html/D/Duffs-device.html Yeah, i'm looking at it. [21:54] weird, a do/while loo inside the switch [22:06] ... i'm a bit too tired right now... [22:20] time to go for me [22:20] bye all [22:20] MSG: Quit: Physical Wreck IRC webscript: http://www.pswclan.com/cgi-bin/irc/irc.cgi [23:40] Part: CL left #corewars