[01:19] damnit I think I dreamt about this nano thing years ago. hmm. [03:07] well, off to sleep. [03:07] cu [03:07] MSG: [05:47] Join: fiveop joined #corewars [07:45] Join: Mizcu joined #corewars [08:18] Join: datagram joined #corewars [08:25] hi data [10:15] Join: into` joined #corewars [10:31] Hey Mizcu [10:33] still feel like could go take another 3 hours sleep [12:25] Join: Core29 joined #corewars [13:11] hrm. [13:12] * datagram passes out [13:16] up too late? [13:29] MSG: Quit: Trillian (http://www.ceruleanstudios.com [13:35] MSG: [13:37] Join: Mizcu joined #corewars [14:46] MSG: Read error: Connection reset by peer [15:06] Join: into` joined #corewars [15:15] Join: deckar joined #corewars [15:18] Join: Roy joined #corewars [15:18] Decyphering challenge: http://www.redcode.nl [15:18] (did something with the site...yay) [15:18] MSG: Client Quit [16:03] Join: sf joined #corewars [16:03] Hello [16:05] hi sf [16:06] heya sf [16:07] if you would be so kind to inspect the nano hill, you will see that I have pushed you down :) I am now in 8th place, compared to your 11th. [16:07] looking [16:08] <--- feeling awfully full of himself now... [16:13] * bvowk prods sf for comment [16:14] sorry, busy looking at the mess you've made [16:14] heh [16:14] mess? [16:14] no mess. [16:14] I've re-aligned the hill :) [16:14] actually, I rewrote my benchmarking framework... [16:15] using wtl data instead of the simple points taken/given [16:15] the third dimension really made a big difference.. [16:15] fixed a bug that penalized the perfect warrior for a position from being chosen all the time too.. [16:15] wtl should be calculable from point taken/given [16:16] yeah, and I can just snarf it off the score pages the same way.. [16:16] but for comparing score distances, the third dimension makes a big difference it would appear. [16:17] my next project is to attempt to brute force the real constants for some infininano warriors that are published, but obviously not the versions on the hill [16:17] I think I have enough resolution to be able to do it now.. [16:17] (I tried before but it wasn't fine enough detail) [16:20] hrm. [16:20] so whatcha doing today sf? [16:21] Thinking [16:22] on? [16:22] bvowk, I hope you will use ;author original person/bvowk on you brute force warriors [16:22] any idea which you would like to attempt? [16:24] I won't publish them.. they'll be for my benchmarking purposes [16:27] Join: Roy joined #corewars [16:27] Aahh, food :) [16:27] hi all [16:27] Hi Roy [16:27] how's it going roy? [16:28] Not so good as I look at the nano hill, I think people are kind of abusing them for optimisation lately :P [16:28] abusing them? [16:28] who's them? [16:28] Me probably [16:29] And fluffy and hillis I think :) [16:29] Never publish warriors if they are still on the hill..reminder :( [16:29] Unless you don't care about the warrior any more [16:30] Or you know no-one will beat it ;) [16:30] And I prod you guys (girl) to solve my code :) [16:30] Looks like hard work :( [16:30] Where have your google ads gone? [16:30] can't you see I'm busy making SF look like a nano lightweight [16:31] * bvowk ducks, runs and hides somewhere safe [16:31] corewar.co.uk has them now [16:31] Heh, didn't place them in the hurry, wanted to upload it so people can tackle it...I'll add them in a second :) [16:33] Bvowk, who has the 15th oldest mad mad nano bomber? [16:33] heh [16:33] Also who has the oldest nano oneshot ever? [16:33] You 15th, me 1st [16:34] who's got more of the hill than anyone else? :) [16:35] It was me yesterday. [16:35] I guess it is you temporarily [16:35] Who has 6 warriors in the bottom 10? [16:36] its only because I'm wickedly effective at crushing my own stuff [16:36] you'd have the same problem if you had 1/4 of the hill [16:48] slightly less than 1/4 now [16:48] I don't mind helping you out with your problem [16:48] thanks.. [16:49] you pushed me up to 7th too [16:49] you're great! :) [17:05] sorry sf. [17:05] you just got that one on.. and now its off again [17:05] :) [17:05] pushed 37- way down tho [17:06] 37-? [17:07] yeah [17:08] Another one off for you bvowk :) [17:08] See how helpful I am? [17:08] btw sf, added the ads again :) [17:08] Clicked for you [17:09] I should add them too [17:09] one of my older ones too.. how sweet of you! [17:09] But first I ought to make a site good enough for people to actually visit! [17:09] JM should add them to more pages IMO, only the main page means I can only click once [17:11] Probably they should be added to the main index pages library software etc. [17:11] hrm.. I've got a friendly fire victim [17:12] :) [17:12] Yes sf, thats what I thought [17:12] you've got this little lump of redcode near the bottom edge of the hill sf.. [17:12] I'll see if I can't help you out with that ok? [17:12] You American's have always been good at friendly fire :) [17:12] lol [17:13] for the 10Mth time, I'm not an american.. I'm just an egocentric canadian. [17:14] Push a few off then if you think you can manage ;) [17:14] Americans, canadians, all the same [17:14] Hmmm... not really [17:14] canadians still have hope left [17:14] Nothing to particularly distinguish Canadians [17:14] Texan have big hat [17:14] Yes, but they speak Frensh... hopeless [17:15] *french... [17:15] Mexicans have bigger hats [17:15] we're a little like the british, except less worried about our mommies. [17:15] Californians have suntans [17:15] You mean you are all like people from Birhningham? [17:16] I have a left ear! [17:16] What do Canadians have? [17:16] Salmon? [17:16] no suntans here. [17:16] isn't it called Birmingham? [17:16] yes, I can't spell [17:17] we've got 52% of the population sporting hard, pointy nipples tho.. [17:17] I speak a little French [17:17] I'll take that over tans any day. [17:17] Je ne parle pas francias.. [17:17] pale white pointy nipples..? hrm.. [17:18] bvowk: do you do anykind of sport? [17:18] Ice. Hockey. Bad comedians. [17:18] is nethack a sport? :) [17:18] Is Mexico the southern-most state? [17:18] I need to check a map [17:18] bvowk: I guess it doesn't count ;) [17:18] southern most? [17:18] Heh Mexico is a country.. below Amerika, New Mexico is a state though [17:18] of what? [17:19] I kill woodland creatures with a variety of weapons, and then eat them.. does that count? [17:19] Doesn't the us-american sterotype imply no knowledge of geography ... [17:19] I thought sf lived in gb :P [17:19] bvowk: what type of weapons? [17:20] (that's cruel ...) [17:20] might be [17:20] ! [17:20] its not cruel! [17:20] depends on your abilities [17:20] It's illegal here bvowk [17:20] since when? [17:20] That would make you a criminal [17:20] You would be arrested on arrival in the U.K. [17:20] Its not cruel, everybody who eats meat is doing the same, but you pay somebody else to do it.. [17:20] Isn't gb famous for his hungint with dogs? [17:20] its much worse to hit them on the road with a car, which is what happens to most of them... our decade of bizzarely warm/snowless winters have caused a huge population explosion [17:21] fiveop: mostly guns and bows [17:21] Hunting with dogs is illegal. (unless it's only 2 dogs) [17:21] Roy: nope I only eat the product of other people possibly being cruel (if they don't know how to kill ... fast ;)) [17:21] Hunting with bows is illegal [17:21] lol only 2 dogs ;) [17:21] sf: yes, and so is not carrying your ID card? [17:21] Guns are fine, providing you have a license, it's in season, and you have permission of the landowner [17:22] Don't need an ID card in the U.K. [17:22] not for a little while yet [17:22] In germany you need some sort of pass for hunting and need to be given the right to hunt in a specific region of forest (I guess!) [17:22] In Holland you need one, its illegal to leave the house without ID... [17:22] yikes! [17:22] So if you get murdered of arrested they know who you are :P [17:23] speaking of ID, I really have to get my drivers license renewed! [17:23] of?or [17:23] Well I don't mind, but the can forget it if they think I am paying over 100 quid for one [17:23] it expired on my birthday, and I didn't notice it was expired until quite recently [17:23] my driver license will never expire [17:23] Mine has 6/7 years to go :) [17:24] So when I got old there's still this youth face looking from its picture ;) [17:24] young [17:24] 4b. - [17:25] (4b. date of expire... (how's the noun for expire ... expireing?) [17:26] expiry? [17:27] hey sf, you've got a published sylvestre, is that the hill version? [17:27] Yes [17:27] hrm. [17:27] alright, I'm a little gobsmacked then [17:29] sf: you're the native speaker, not me [17:30] bvowky: why? [17:32] syl that I'm using doesn't rank where I expect it to [17:33] wow.. nice push-down sf [17:33] woo, don't mess with sf :P [17:34] Kick them off if you date [17:34] *dare [17:34] heh, nice typo [17:34] :P [17:34] heh [17:35] If you fail to push them off I'll have to think you haven't been out with a girl for a while! [17:35] I can't help it r and t are right next to each other [17:36] heh [17:36] Then use dvorak ;-) [17:40] Have you given up for the day now bvowk? [17:40] Or he's working on a new masterplan! [17:41] psst bvowk, start Yace for a while :D [17:42] no.. I'm just twiddling up a new benchmark.. [17:45] hi [17:45] anyone speak spanish? [17:46] nos.. [17:46] ok :( [17:46] Ola [17:46] ola [17:46] hablas español? [17:46] But you can speak english can you? [17:46] Join: Fluffy joined #corewars [17:46] i can speak a few english [17:46] Sorry, I only know a few words [17:46] okok [17:46] Neogryzor is from Spain [17:46] hey fluffy [17:47] :) [17:47] He comes here every few days [17:47] Hi Fluff [17:47] ok i tr to find him [17:47] thanks [17:47] Hi easterbunny [17:47] * Fluffy kicks Roy [17:47] deckar: do you need some help? [17:49] hmmm .... i am a begginer and i only want to speak with anyone because i have a problem with that ( a actually noob problem) [17:54] Well if you tell us what's wrong we'll try to help [17:54] If not, the I'm sure Neo can help [18:00] :) [18:00] Why the smile bvowk? What are you up to? [18:01] noooooothin. [18:01] Nano has gone quiet [18:11] MSG: Quit: 12• IRcap [7.51] 12• http://www.ircap.net 12• [18:15] * sf shakes bvowk [18:21] * sf kicks bvowk [18:21] * sf runs [18:21] MSG: Quit: I was using TinyIRC! Visit http://www.tinyirc.net/ for more information. [18:36] MSG: Quit: dat.f <1, # 0 [18:48] sorry sf.. [18:48] work called :/ [19:21] MSG: [19:58] Philips is trying to patent a technique to lock tv during commercials, so you cant channel-surf [19:59] in good news, Kodak Gold cd [20:00] 's and dvd-+r's are coming back [20:01] Join: deckar joined #corewars [20:07] hrm. [20:09] and suddenly nano was very different [20:51] n8 [20:51] MSG: Quit: humhum [21:05] Join: fiveop joined #corewars [21:08] MSG: Client Quit [21:54] http://phpfi.com/114121 [21:54] how can i pimp this warrior? [21:55] i need help to code a line that create a new process [22:03] please help or sleep the whole channel? [22:04] I'm here [22:04] spl creates a new process [22:04] yes, but i dont know how i can use that [22:04] sorry i'm from germany english is not so good [22:05] you can just add spl 0, 0 to the top of the warrior, but with many processes that might mess up your bomb throwing because of different timing in execution [22:07] hmm i dont understand the whole sentence [22:08] spl 0, 0 [22:08] start mov bomb, -1 [22:08] add #-1, start [22:08] weit mov bomba, +6 [22:08] add #1, weit [22:09] jmp start [22:09] [22:09] [22:09] bomb dat #1, -1 [22:09] bomba dat #1, +6 [22:09] yes, i have that [22:09] but when i run this warrior in corewin [22:09] SPL has only the A parameter, and that parameter tells what line for the new process to jump to [22:09] It crashes, right? [22:10] there is no changing to before [22:10] Oh? [22:10] It starts on line 1? [22:10] At spl 0, 0? [22:10] It doesn't change how the warrior works, just makes many processes do it at once [22:11] yes, but i must see the processes in corewin in the battlefield or? [22:11] there are dots that show me how the warrior fights [22:15] http://img511.imageshack.us/my.php?image=corewin0ja.jpg [22:15] here is a screenshot [22:15] the dots from the top and the bottom meet them in the middel [22:15] middle [22:16] at the end in each field is a yellow dot [22:16] Hold on let me run it [22:17] ok [22:17] you are the expert ^^ [22:19] What do you want it to do? [22:20] i only need a warrior that win against the IMP [22:20] i need the warrior for the studies [22:20] Oh, you have to change start [22:20] It moves a bomb over your spl instruction [22:22] and how? [22:22] sorry i'm a loser in redcode ^^ [22:23] when you put spl 0, 0 on top the next instruction tells it to move a bomb to -1 (the spl instruction) [22:23] try this [22:24] dat {2667*2, <2667 [22:24] spl #0, #551 [22:24] mov -2, >-1 [22:24] add.ab #551, -2 [22:24] djn -2, <-3 [22:24] but start on spl #0 and end start at the end [22:27] but do i not need jump? [22:27] jmp start [22:27] at the end [22:27] The djn is a jump [22:28] dat {2667*2, <2667 [22:28] But if you run it you'll see it is also doing - to many locations in the core [22:28] start spl #0, #551 [22:28] mov -2, >-1 [22:28] add.ab #551, -2 [22:28] djn -2, <-3 [22:28] In the hopes of hitting someone else's code and messing it up [22:28] when i run this my old warrior win directly [22:28] as well as "coloring" the core so scanners will mess up [22:28] And end start to the end [22:28] Its because its starting on line 1 (the bomb) [22:29] dont know what you mean with "And end start to the end" [22:29] please write the command [22:29] what i have to paste in the code of my warrior [22:32] literally put "end start" and the end [22:32] djn -2, <-3 [22:32] end start [22:33] ah it now it works [22:33] but the warrior lose against my old [22:33] with 100% ^^ [22:34] oh i have looked wrong ^^ [22:34] your warrior win with 100% [22:34] cool [22:34] have you copied the warrior or build in the short time i haved talk with you? [22:35] i hope you understand what i mean, because my bad english ^^ [22:38] Heh [22:38] I have it from a corewar presentation I gave [22:38] ah ok [22:38] Its just an example, though [22:38] It kills itself after a while [22:39] is that not a good warrior? [22:46] when i do some battles [22:46] the warrior starts from other positions [22:46] is that normal? [22:47] i think it is the best when the warrior start in the middel of field [22:49] into`, They are always random positions so that no warrior can know where the other is [22:49] ah ok [22:49] but the problem is, when i start at top or bottom your warrior lose against the other [22:50] but when the warrior start in the middle he wins ^^ [22:50] thats not so good [22:50] Heh, yeah because my warrior places bombs all over the core [22:50] your warrior wins if I start close by and you bomb me before I hit your code [22:50] BUT, my warrior is better in more situations because I'm bombing more spaced out locations [22:52] yes, i have seen that, it look like good where your warrior bomb [22:54] how long does you play corewar? [22:58] MSG: [23:35] thx for help datagram n8 [23:35] MSG: Quit: 12( www.nnscript.de 12:: NoNameScript 3.81 12:: www.XLhost.de 12)