[06:08] Join: Mizcu joined #corewars [06:51] Join: fiveop joined #corewars [10:59] Join: deckar joined #corewars [14:57] greetings all. [14:59] grts [16:10] hrm. [16:27] Join: Core29 joined #corewars [16:28] greets core. [16:28] got any code? :) [16:32] hey :-) [16:32] not yet... :-( [16:33] well.. whats the hold up! :) [16:33] crap, got no time...grr [16:33] (sorry s/!/?/) [16:34] but... [16:34] during the first two weeks of june [16:34] i've got free days! yay! [16:34] then I hope I'll find some quiet hours to write and send a warrior [16:37] :) [16:37] I'm working on some code for my new evolver right now.. [16:37] ah [16:37] I might have it going soon.. [16:38] I'm having problems with figuring out a good algorithm for island exchanges.. [16:39] well, I do't really know much about this evolver thing...what is it exactly? [16:39] compllicated by the fact a good number of my computrons have a 45 minute limit on incoming jobs to let the legit users get a chance to squeeze me out.. [16:39] ok, you know I have access to a few hundred computers right? [16:40] say what? [16:40] well, I've got 4 at home.... [16:40] I always thouht *that* was much [16:40] so now, viewing a program to write redcode programs through the lens of being massively distributed.. basicly, there's a server that acts as a main collection point, it hands out source material, and collects new creations made by the clients running on all those machines.. [16:41] currently, its got a bunch of divisions between a large group of warriors, warriors can only survive by pushing another warrior out of their species.. and they all compete against the same benchmark.. [16:42] OK, I see...seems quite complicated to me. The warriors are written in normal RedCode? [16:42] each division is a "species", and inter-species breeding is rare.. [16:43] yeah, they're stored and traded in exhaust format for my purposes.. [16:43] but they're redcode.. [16:44] whew...a lot of work, I guess [16:44] the new evolver is going to have a symbolic style language.. [16:44] so instead of just twiddling bare numbers around, it'll work with labels, more like the micro-gp people do.. [16:44] (and then I can make better use of human generated code..) [16:44] okay [16:46] the new evolver is going to be a little different, I'm going to have a central server that holds a group of "hills" and source code collections, its going to hand those out to a client, and the client is going to attempt to create warriors that can make it on the hill, and then return them to the server for collection.. [16:46] then we're going to use hill modeling (like I do for my nano-warriors), to emulate the target hill and decide what to submit :) [16:47] I'm hoping this'll dramatically improve the diversity [16:47] I understand what you do...but it's probably way to far for my small cw-knowledge...phew [16:47] you've got a page online for this thing? [16:48] sorry, you asked :) [16:48] uh.. [16:48] the old one has a bit of a writeup in one of the older CW's [16:48] codes on my webpage.. [16:52] so thats how I write redcode, I don't recommend it.. you'll get beat by someone with 1/100th of your computers and then feel silly [17:02] Join: Neogryzor joined #corewars [17:02] hehe [17:02] hi [17:03] hi [17:03] what's up? [17:04] Kline just keeps spamming koth with the dodger(s) [17:05] not that i mind, none of the incarnations so far have been able to beat SotBS [17:06] :) [17:08] whats up neo [17:08] hi bvowkutron [17:12] Mizcu: Song of the blue sea hold a strong position on 94'NOP. Could you give us any clue about its strategy? [17:12] Not yet [17:13] It scores slightly unorthodox, but you can probably guess [17:17] mmh.. Seems it does not deal well with imps... [17:20] ..kills s/p but not s/i.. [17:21] i guess it does not have imps [17:22] look like a stone/paper, or maybe a strange paper. Am i right? [17:23] nope [17:23] I'm loosing my intuition... :-/ [17:24] You might want to check logs from saturday -night for me half-admitting what it is [17:24] let me guess a bit more [17:25] i could be wrong. I can contain imps.. [17:26] if so, they would be B-imps [17:29] i'm not sure. Scores doesn't suggest any clear strat [17:31] ok, looking the logs... s/i ?? [17:32] yes. S/I with no coreclear. [17:33] really strange scores [17:34] Roy will rip hes hair off if/once he sees to source and realises what is able to beat hulla [17:34] At least i was right about the b-imps, wan't i? [17:34] :) [17:34] ½ [17:34] :-O [17:34] dual imps [17:35] Mascafé contains anti-A-imp paper, so it ties with SotBS a lot [17:41] Join: Hairless joined #corewars [17:42] Nick Change: Hairless changed nick to Roy [17:42] lol [17:42] why are you hairless roy? [17:42] actually.. I don't want to know. [17:42] hahahahahaha! [17:42] Mizcu: I'm not amazed by things that beat Hulla, everybody has warriors that beat others [17:43] "[17:34] Roy will rip hes hair off if/once he" [17:44] The thing you need for the hill is having a warrior that beats a lot, and has rare enemies that on itself are easily beaten by lots [17:46] Sorry Roy, i guess Mizcu is beating Hulla with a simple dwarf :) [17:47] Well yeah, but those are beaten by papers...which are beaten by hulla [17:48] hrm. [17:53] bvowk: btw, nice 8th spot on nano. I thought the hill crased or something, but it works. [17:54] *crashed* [17:54] hey! [17:54] bvowk gets something in the top 10, therefore the hill must have crashed?! [17:54] * bvowk mutters [17:54] that's it... >:-) [17:54] :-) [17:56] Try to understand... we are not used to see your warriors so high...you know... [17:58] heh [18:20] just had an idea but cant immediately say if its any good or not [18:21] gotta see later.. [18:21] bye miz [18:21] im not yet going anywhere [18:21] just not im mood for more redcode [18:21] oops, read that as 'see you later' [18:55] i have to go now [18:55] don't foget the beer, bvowk :p [18:55] * Neogryzor waves [18:55] MSG: [19:14] MSG: [19:57] MSG: [20:18] Join: sf joined #corewars [20:18] * bvowk crushes sf with a piano [20:19] :( [20:20] don't pout [20:34] whatcha up to sf? [20:36] MSG: Quit: Trillian (http://www.ceruleanstudios.com [20:36] Not much [20:36] I'm tired :( [20:40] Your evolver has gone quiet again bvowky [20:43] MSG: Quit: humhum [20:43] MSG: Quit: I was using TinyIRC! Visit http://www.tinyirc.net/ for more information. [21:31] Part: deckar left #corewars