[05:23] Join: fiveop joined #corewars [07:07] Join: Mizcu joined #corewars [08:16] MSG: Ping timeout: 252 seconds [08:16] Join: pak21 joined #corewars [09:13] MSG: Remote host closed the connection [10:57] http://www.theinquirer.net/?article=31236 [10:57] Irony [12:23] Join: deckar joined #corewars [14:13] MSG: [15:11] anyone is here? [15:51] MSG: Quit: 12• IRcap [7.51] 12• http://www.ircap.com 12• [16:34] hrm. [16:51] Join: sf joined #corewars [16:51] Hello [16:52] Wow, just noticed who's Koth on 94nop! [16:52] :) [16:58] Have you switched to Yace bvowk? [16:58] 8 49.7 46.4 3.9 2439-2216-sandpile-nano-eve79 bvowk 153.0 36 [17:06] Join: Mizcu joined #corewars [17:10] no, thats my old evolver, better benchmark builder tho [17:12] uh.. [17:12] is the 94nop hill working? [17:18] come on sf.. [17:18] I prod you with insults, and nothing?! How are we supposed to have an ongoing rivalry if you let stuff like that drop. [17:22] So you know where the 94nop is then bvowky? [17:27] yeah, I just wasn't sure the hill could be working right if you were on top.. [17:27] :) [17:27] * bvowk ducks [17:29] I'm surprised too, that a 15 minute warrior is on top of the 94nop hill. [17:29] How well would a 15 minute evolved warrior score bvowky? [17:29] Join: boris44 joined #corewars [17:29] depends :) [17:30] hi guys [17:30] i´m kind of new to warcraft 3 [17:30] playe 4 about 4 months [17:31] if u wanna look at a tournament game live how do u do? [17:31] i dont think anyone is an active WC3 -player here [17:31] half havent probably even played it [17:32] Join: boris joined #corewars [17:32] heh [17:32] hi again [17:32] how would you get warcraft from #corewarS? [17:32] * bvowk boggles slightly. [17:32] but isnt this a warcraft 3 tournament channel [17:33] Hi Boris [17:33] nope, this is a channel about corewars, see www.corewar.info [17:33] oh sorry, just googled without thinking. bye [17:33] who told you it was a warcraft channel (so we can take that person out and have them beaten) [17:34] i googled and found a webpage [17:34] heh [17:34] koth is a tournament in warcraft 3 [17:34] sorry [17:34] MSG: Client Quit [17:34] * sf waves [17:34] /server ludd.se.quakenet.org , and there #warcraft [17:34] :) [17:34] you will find better answers [17:35] so sf, hacking on anything interesting? [17:35] MSG: Ping timeout: 252 seconds [17:38] Do you think an online solicitor which links to sites this should be avoided? http://www.sugar-daddy.net/ [17:38] I have a feeling that isn't work safe [17:39] "no commitment", right [17:43] One of my friends needs a solicitor and I'm looking online. The one I found looked ok up until that point. [17:50] * sf thinks raptor must be a hand-coder :) [17:52] hrm. [17:53] ok.. [17:53] I've come to the point where I think I hate perl [17:53] What's perl? [17:53] its great for quick hacks, but if you intend to keep that hack around for more than 15 minutes, you shouldn't be doing it perl.. cause you'll regret it later [17:53] programming language. [17:53] www.perl.org [17:54] You write evolvers in perl? [17:55] some.. [17:56] but mostly little bits that stick the evolver together [17:56] perl is on pretty much any machine I interact with, so its really quite slick for many things.. [17:56] Then I hate it too [17:56] the problem I keep running into is that perl has a zillion ways of doing everything, and module global variables unless you strict it up.. [17:57] but since most of these scripts begin life as a one liner, they don't have all the full care and attention they're due until they break something.. [17:59] Well, if you mean your evolver is broken, I could have told you that ages ago :P [17:59] heh [18:00] Are you still churning out mad mad bombers by the zillions? [18:00] but wait, I'm higher than you on nano, and there's more of me.. [18:00] yeah [18:00] Hmmm... yesterdays news, times change [18:00] I'm just not submitting them right now because I'm working under the hood of the submitting program to see if I can't make it stop hurting me more than everyone else [18:00] I'm making good progress too :) [18:03] Lets see then? [18:03] One submission :) [18:04] heh.. [18:04] perhaps you missed my rant on perl? [18:04] I'm rewriting my base infrastructure in scheme right now.. [18:04] (why scheme? I guess I've just been spending too much time with pk) [18:09] actually, scheme and python.. [18:09] I have alot of python I'm not going to rewrite, because I don't seem to have any problems with it.. [18:14] Join: Core29 joined #corewars [18:14] greets core [18:14] hiya [18:15] Hi Core29 [18:15] You really should recheck the nano hill Mr Vowky [18:16] Join: Neogryzor joined #corewars [18:16] Hi Neo! :) [18:16] hi all [18:17] what's up sf? [18:17] heya neo [18:17] I think bvowk has switched his evolving to Yace [18:17] lol [18:17] damnit pk. [18:17] er.. [18:17] sf [18:18] heh [18:19] I can't actually find a copy of yace as source online anymore.. [18:19] I know where it is :P [18:19] martin moved all his stuff.. [18:19] and his old page doesn't work.. exmars was gone for a while until I put up a new mirror too [18:24] hrmm.. Kline looks like a real spammer with his Codgerific [18:25] Where's exmars now? [18:25] my site is one, and jens is mirroring it too iirc [18:28] http://corewar.co.uk/ankerl/ [18:32] nice work met. [19:01] Everyone's gone very quiet [19:01] Must be working furiously [19:02] * sf flicks elastic bands at bvowk [19:03] * bvowk crushes sf with the piano to keep her out of trouble [19:07] * sf tilts the earths axis to allow the sun to shine on Canada, causing mass panic [19:07] stupid Americans! [19:10] actually, thats going to cause me issues.. [19:10] my office is already overly solar heated [19:11] * bvowk melts and sf has nobody to abuse on the nano hill [19:11] * Neogryzor is afraid... [19:12] * sf instructs tiny children to jump up and down in the bvowk puddle [19:13] * bvowk 's former love handles cause the children to slip and crack their skulls open, leaving sf open to a costly lawsuit. [19:15] * bvowk bubbles evilly! [19:16] ...! [19:18] * sf wonders what this button does on bvowk's fileserver [19:19] there are no buttons on my fileservers, because there are too many fingers controlled by too few brains! [19:19] (actually, I've just covered most of them with covers and epoxy [19:19] ) [19:21] ok, I have to get my wife her own ipod.. [19:22] allowing her music to co-exist on mine in case she wants to use it in the car isn't good... one tiny burst of intelligent female singer/songwriter vibe can really wreck a couple good hours of unbroken black metal.. [19:24] :D [19:25] What's wrong with intelligent female singer/songwriter [19:26] it was a painful paradigm shift in my brain [19:26] how about attractive intelligent female singer/songwriter? [19:26] cannibal corpse -> some (very nice sounding woman) complaining about her basement appartment [19:27] it was like being on the highway and suddenly slamming the transmission into a strange new gear, we'll call it "left" [19:30] sf: I'm sure she's very attractive.. but it totally broke my train of thought :) [19:31] Katie Mulua has a nice voice [19:31] *Melua [19:32] * bvowk is a big fan of shirley manson.. (only saying this cause sf is from uk-land) [19:33] I used to have my computer room plastered with shirley manson posters.. but then I had to give my computer room up cause, well, I moved into a small place from a great big huge house.. [19:33] (mostly because it was the only way to get my sister to move out.. sell the house and move into a place where she couldn't fit) [19:34] I don't think I know anything she sings. [19:34] you don't know garbage? [19:36] But she was in Kerrang magazine's 50 sexiest people in rock and roll :) [19:36] 1st place was the guy from Green Day, 2nd place was Brodie Dalle [19:37] heh [19:38] hey sf, you're from england, do you know shirley manson? [19:38] (don't laugh, canadians get that from americans all the time.. ) [19:38] I don't know here personally [19:38] By the way do you know A.K.Dewdney? [19:39] He must live somewhere near you [19:39] You must be virtually neighbours [19:40] yes, I believe he's at the end of my 4000km block :) [19:40] blue house I think :) [19:41] Great :) [19:43] bvowk: I've been working on something, can I confide in you? [19:45] alright [19:45] if its your goatse collection tho, I'm going to be upset [19:45] I'm trying to write a song, I though maybe you could have a word with Bryan to see what he thinks [19:46] lol [19:46] If your kind of like neighbours or something you could invite him around for a bbq or something [19:46] mr adams and I aren't on speaking terms, because I told him at his bbq that I thought his music sucked, and after the fist fight, his wife was really peeved.. [19:47] I was going to offer to let him duet with me, damn I thought you might finally be a useful person to know! :) [19:48] lol [19:48] I'm afraid that'll never be the case.. [19:49] Hmmm... the tech guy is often a useful guy to know [19:49] When you're feeling depressed [19:50] I know where this is going... [19:54] does anyone want to write me a .bat that does pmars -r 0 XXX.red > XXX.rc for each file.red in the directory? [19:54] I've got a perl script.. or a python script.. [19:56] I don't know if you can do that [19:56] You could rename all *.red to *. [19:56] then for %%f in (*.red) do pmars -r 0 &&f >%%f.rc [19:57] I mean for %%f in (*.) do pmars -r 0 &&f >%%f.rc [19:58] did the stuff by hand already.. [20:05] * Neogryzor is hungry. His stomach rumbles [20:08] hmm, yace doesnt like my computer [20:09] :( [20:09] 3500 fights per second, which is comparable to score of a two-generation old processor (Athlon thunderbird) [20:10] and it chose to start wondering after bench had been calculated [20:18] Are you going to evolve too, Mizcu? [20:19] only if i write my own piece of software for it [20:19] rather just seeing if i can coax some weird stuff when seeding evolution [20:22] miz: doesn't yace use the hard disk for everything? [20:23] ah yes [20:23] ie: you're limited by disk seek times (which haven't improved) rather than computrons [20:23] gotta install the ramdisk-driver [20:25] Does yace do everything in memory and just dump to disk every once in a while? [20:28] iirc it does it all on disk.. [20:28] but I haven't played with it in a long long time [20:33] ;redcode-nano [20:33] ;name blinded by moonshine 8 [20:33] ;author not me! [20:33] ;kill blinded by moonshine 7 [20:33] boot equ clr+35 [20:33] mov }st,>st [20:33] st: mov clr,boot [20:33] spl boot,{-10 [20:33] clr: mov {30,-5 [20:33] djn.f {0,}0 [20:33] end st-1 [20:34] SHHHH!!! [20:34] Whoops :( [20:34] I'm getting sleepy [20:35] kids, dont get blinded by moonshine, always filter your with Mr. Moons active charcoal filteres! [20:35] mock mock mock [20:35] * bvowk puts out a slippery when melted sign so nobody falls like those kids sf killed [20:39] Now you discovered the bvowkickermachine. Fear it! [20:40] sorry, you got that wrong... it should be something like Ph33r i+! [20:40] * bvowk slowly squishes his puddle out of the way to avoid injury [20:40] MSG: [20:42] Is "sucking machine" right, (the one you use to clean yor home)? It does not sound good for me. [20:44] s [20:44] heh [20:45] you mean like a vaccuum cleaner? [20:45] * Neogryzor takes a vacuum cleaner and goes after that puddle [20:45] * bvowk is greasy and doesn't come out of the carpet at all! [20:47] Ah, that bvowk ate too many donuts... [20:47] Join: Mizcu joined #corewars [20:48] heh [20:48] no! its my massive brain! [20:48] sheesh, had to manipulate registery to get the socking driver to make bigger ramdrive [20:49] so nothing new under this part of the world [20:50] Have you heared about Murphy's laws, Mizcu? :) [20:50] yes [20:50] start praying... [20:50] both original and abridged [20:51] I need to get some sleep now [20:52] Good night sf [20:52] * Neogryzor has to go too. I'm starving... [20:52] * sf waves [20:53] * Neogryzor waves [20:53] MSG: Quit: I was using TinyIRC! Visit http://www.tinyirc.net/ for more information. [20:54] MSG: [20:55] Join: Fluffy joined #corewars [20:55] :-) [20:55] Anybody alive? [20:56] nope [20:56] all dead.. sorry [20:56] :) [20:56] *sigh* [20:56] Hmm ... then about 1.5 peoples are alive [20:57] Anything new? What about that tournament, that is mentioned in the topic? [20:57] 1.5? [20:57] I'm hoping I'm the 1 and not the .5 [20:57] about 1.5 [20:58] Maybe you are both about 0.75 ;-) [20:58] Let's use 1.5 for large values of 1.5 [20:58] That should be about right [20:59] oh fer christ's sake [20:59] yes? [20:59] And what is that christ thing? [20:59] well, atleast i finally got yace to run [20:59] and evolution seeded [21:00] And does it produce anything useful? [21:00] And what about that tournament? [21:01] i dunno a damn about the tournament [21:01] how come i have started to speak like a redneck.. [21:02] you've been drinking american beer? [21:02] it has been known to adversely affect intelligence [21:02] i dont drink beer [21:03] Maybe you are watching american movies? [21:04] hey, first one to score better than the seed arrived [21:04] with 0.1 points better score -_- [21:04] And what is the currently best score? [21:04] 0.1? [21:04] 207.8 out of 300 [21:04] wow [21:05] a new one with 5 score lead arrived [21:05] Let me gues. You are only benchmarking against the warriors, that you are evolving? [21:05] *guess [21:05] between the evolved, yes [21:06] however that doesnt mean that there isnt benchmarking used [21:06] and there are no mules in the yace-koth [21:06] and -> as [21:07] hmm .. mules [21:07] Is that an official term? [21:08] actually yes [21:08] Whoever coined that term must have read Asimov [21:09] meaning that it is very hard to cross two warriors structurally, and the offsprings are generally worthless drek [21:10] * Fluffy sighs [21:12] With every day that I work on PyCorewar I have to acknowledge, that fmars is a real wonder. [21:15] wtfbbq [21:15] the top-of-the-yacekoth keeps getting weirder [21:15] can you post the code? [21:16] dunno if i should.. [21:16] Who else could know? ;-) [21:17] MSG: Quit: Trillian (http://www.ceruleanstudios.com [21:55] hrm. [21:55] yes? [21:56] nothing.. [21:56] just pondering my compilation problem [21:57] Just explain it and everything will be solved at once. [21:57] Because you will immediately see the solution. [21:58] That's why I usually tell my problem to people, who don't understand a bit about the problem. [21:58] no, actually, the problem is its being done by some magic wrapper widget, expecting that it is running on a linux box, and not a freebsd box [21:59] Join: brx joined #corewars [21:59] Hey, brx! [21:59] trying to figure out how to get it to give me some real information about what its not getting right [21:59] hey fluff. only here looking for drewhk. when has he been seen last? [21:59] bvowk: ok, you've stated your problem. Now it is time, that you've found the solution. [22:00] brx: Don't know. Not been here in a while. [22:00] I see. bugger [22:00] grep the logs :) [22:01] * brx headdesks [22:01] brx: why? What has your desk done to you? [22:01] that's right. those annoying weblogs can be useful too instead of just making me easily googleable [22:01] +in addition to [22:01] ** [22:03] Fluffy: once in a while, a person I have never chatted to before messages me, asking me if I was "brx from #corewars" [22:04] hehe [22:04] and what do they want? [22:05] apparently "brx" is some sort of chemical something and #corewars logs have a pretty high page rank for that query [22:05] hehe [22:06] also, it's been used in background scans against me in #emacs. I think I mentioned being an #emacs troll in here and that was easily found out by a channel op. [22:06] * brx waves [22:07] * Fluffy waves [22:07] MSG: Quit: lalaland [22:11] lol [22:12] I guess thats the problem with being a troll :) sometimes they snap photos of you when you leave the bridge, and then put your picture up in the local shoppes :) [22:12] MSG: Quit: humhum [22:58] * Fluffy waves [22:59] MSG: Quit: dat.f < 1, # 0