[00:07] MSG: Quit: 12• IRcap [7.51] 12• http://www.ircap.net 12• [01:18] MSG: [01:21] Join: Roy joined #corewars [01:21] FLUFFY!! [01:22] Setting parameters for Corwar.Benchmarkng.MARS_94nop ... ok [01:22] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- [01:22] Ran 41 tests in 31.547s [01:22] OK [01:22] PyCorewar working in Windows compiled with VC++ :-D!! [01:22] : ) [01:23] But how does it work...? :-( [01:24] Heh [01:24] I want to have a normal version that uses PyCorewar w1.red w2.red -r 200 [01:25] And the MIPS calculator! Want to test the speed on my pc! [01:25] And compare it against my usual pmars [01:26] But well, I guess I need the new version he made.. I've got a older one.. [01:26] Now time for some sleep, I'm tired and a bit drunk, ciao! [01:26] * Roy waves [01:26] MSG: [06:26] Join: fiveop joined #corewars [08:12] Join: Mizcu joined #corewars [08:39] Join: Core29 joined #corewars [09:09] Join: Core29_ joined #corewars [09:12] MSG: Ping timeout: 252 seconds [09:49] Join: Roy joined #corewars [10:01] sf: new cool band: The Raconteurs! [10:01] (new band formed by Jack White, from the White Stripes) [10:55] The white stripes are no more? [10:55] Thank fucking god. [10:59] No, they are still, but there is one more now :P [10:59] Like... two white stripes! [10:59] (yay) [10:59] But this new band is much more mainstream [11:07] Wow, I timed one little fight and here PyCorewar looks 200% faster then pmars (but its not very accurate measuring) [11:07] And its not even the latet version! [11:07] *latest [11:28] : ) [11:28] Is the source available now? [11:28] Cool, any Windows users that want to have PyCorewar? I just made a pre-compiled version [11:29] The source is online on his website [11:29] Hey, you guys are all from overseas, do you guys have any spare locks you don't want? I collect them, and I don't have any euro locks... [11:29] Locks..? [11:29] Locks. [11:29] Like a bicycle lock..? [11:29] doorknobs, deadbolts, padlocks [11:29] Whatever [11:30] Actually, I have one european lock coming in the mail this week [11:30] A KABA Gemini [11:30] Heh I have a AXA bicycle lock I don't use [11:31] It is tubular? [11:31] something like this: http://www.bicycleworkshop.co.uk/smsimg/1/6sl7-blk.jpg [11:31] Oh wow weird [11:31] You should mail me that. [11:31] : ) [11:32] Heh, I don't know how easy it is to mail something like that to you! [11:32] And how much that'll cost me :-P [11:33] :P [11:33] You just put it in a box, and put my name on it, and put a stamp [11:33] I also have a very little lock from a diary, I used to be able to pick that thing in seconds, so I locked its own keys, but I never tried to open it afterwards [11:33] Heh, those are too simple [11:33] I have been purchasing nicer locks on eBay lately [11:34] Those all get here by Friday : ) [11:34] You little picker! [11:34] http://www.ubersource.net/Datagram%20Introduction%20to%20Lockpicking.avi [11:34] Ok, maybe we can make a deal, I search for some locks and mail it to you, and you send me something nice in return ;-) [11:34] 1 hour lecture I did on lockpicking a few weeks ago [11:35] Heh, such as? [11:35] Pretty cool, did you see the toothbrush-lock-picker? [11:35] http://www.inventgeek.com/Projects/lockpick/lockpick.aspx [11:36] Oh, that's a vibration pick [11:36] Those are popular but I usually see them in the more professional makes : ) [11:40] MSG: Ping timeout: 252 seconds [11:53] Hehe, thats why I liked it, so simple :) [12:11] * Roy has to go [12:11] * Roy waves [12:12] ps. Fluff: I found the examples, so now I can test it (and it works) [12:12] MSG: [12:27] Join: Roy joined #corewars [12:27] ... had to come back here and shout this... [12:27] Averaged results [12:27] pMARS : 8.861 MIPS [12:27] PyCorewar : 33.880 MIPS (282.3 % faster than pMARS) [12:27] Nuff said.. [12:27] * Roy waves [12:27] MSG: Client Quit [12:56] MSG: [13:22] Join: Fluffy joined #corewars [13:22] :-) [13:33] Join: Roy joined #corewars [13:33] Hiya Fluffy [13:34] Roy: one mo [13:34] Those are some pretty sweet results :-) [13:35] Roy: I've just answered you email. [13:35] If you like the results of PyCorewar 0.2.0 then you will definitely like the results of the current dev-versions. [13:37] Roy: By the way what computer are you using? Which cpu? [13:39] Err.. I think its a 2.3Ghz P4 with 765 mb (+/-) [13:39] Or 2.6GHz.. [13:40] Then you 34 MIPS is nothing [13:40] *your [13:41] As soon as the everything runs fine again I'll mail you a dev-version [13:41] I hope, that you will be sth. > 40 MIPS then [13:41] *see [13:41] Today I definitely can't type properly [13:43] Did you have to change much in PyCorewar's source code to make it run with VC? [13:43] No almost nothing, only one declaration [13:44] You made a static char *x[] inside a function, and VC demands it to be made at the start of the function [13:44] So that was easily fixed [13:44] Hmm ... that doesn't sound like a problem :-) [13:44] Some fights already went > 40 MIPS... but thats pretty damn fast! [13:44] I was talking about > 40 MIPS on average. [13:45] Unfortunately there is no good acronym for Million Redcode Instructions Per Second :-( [13:46] mRIPS..? [13:46] nah [13:46] Sounds like I want to rape your computer ;-) [13:46] Pervert.. [13:47] grrr [13:47] Of course I'll make a Windows version when 0.3.0 comes out (just reading email now) [13:47] :-) [13:47] fmars is still faster, but we are working on that tiny annoyance ;-) [13:47] I'm not quite sure what you need to run it, maybe (if I'm correct) only the exe and Python [13:48] yes [13:48] The only problem atm is that the EXE only installs the lib, and not the pymars files [13:49] The pymars is only an example [13:49] But its a good one :-P [13:49] Just wait until OptiMax2 is out [13:49] The best thing is probably to stick that exe with the readme files and the example files in one zip (or something) [13:49] But Fluff, I don't need a whole optimax, just a working mars that I can call from command line [13:49] We could include your evolver as an example, too :) [13:50] Lol, it doesn't work :P [13:50] Then make it work [13:50] btw. is it correct this version needs the -N (else it crashes) [13:50] ? [13:50] Yes, because the -N call the '94nop-MARS [13:51] if you don't use -N, the '94-MARS (with pspace-support) should be called [13:51] but I'll still have to write it [13:51] (the '94-MARS) [13:51] It will be definitely in 0.3.0 [13:52] Along with a rewritten parser and lots of speedups [13:52] and some silly things like returning the number of executed instructions [13:54] Nice nice, but I can already use this in my current optimizer I think :-P [13:54] Good luck then :-) [14:01] Join: deckar joined #corewars [14:01] Woohoo, only a small change in the python code needed to make it work with mts.exe [14:02] Roy: What is mts.exe? [14:02] (so it gives the pmars output instead of pycorewar output) [14:02] Hi deckar [14:02] hi [14:02] Its a little program that does RoundRobin for you [14:02] (with pmars) [14:02] :) [14:02] But it doesn't really care if you use pmars or something else as long as it gives the same text output [14:03] And my optimizer uses mts, thus is now working 250% faster! [14:10] phew, it crashed on one warrior but it had a illegal character or something on the last line, deleted the (already empty) line and it works like a charm now [14:10] That's what I like to hear [14:10] that it works or that it crashed on a empty line? :-P [14:11] Of course, tht it crashed. That's what it is supposed to do :-) [14:11] *that [14:11] ..? [14:11] * Fluffy is only joking [14:12] nice! finaly i ve found a redcode guide in spanish [14:13] deckar: Good luck then and don't hesitate to ask, if you questions. [14:13] Man.. you just don't know how happy I am with this :-) I can just keep watching the warrior names scroll by at lightning speed [14:13] Lol [14:14] Roy: I don't think, that your computer can scroll THAT fast. [14:14] Instead of waiting +/- 1m12 seconds for its now 28s [14:15] Heh lol, I was watching a program (about science) on tv yesterday, and the subtitles translated a line in: "this bullet is fired at almost 3 times the speed of light" (sigh...) [14:16] Come on, that translator must have had some science in their education :-S [14:16] Uber light ray gun [14:16] Technically they can slow light down [14:16] Roy: Maybe they've referred to the speed of light in a material where it is slower than the standard 300000 km/s ;-) [14:16] Roy: But I really doubt than [14:17] So it could easily be three times the fractional speed of pure light [14:17] They just meant the speed of sound.. [14:17] Fluffy, No they figured out how to regulate light speed lower, it was a big deal a few months ago because now they can regulate fiber optic light speeds to eliminate the expensive light -> whatever converter on fiber cards [14:18] datagram: That's another solution :-) [14:18] hmm ... I really start to like the idea of programs writing programs [14:19] Evolvers.. :P [14:19] No, a Python-script, that generates C-code [14:19] It is far less error-prone than anything, that I could do manually. [14:19] And the C-code generating the same Python script! [14:20] Thats true, if you have code that needs repetition etc its safer [14:21] Not exactly repetition, but optimized code for each case of opcode/modifier/a-mode/b-mode [14:22] Fluffy, any more things you would like me to test? [14:22] No yet :-) [14:22] I'll send you a dev-version as soon as everything works again [14:23] I can even try py2exe when its ready, I'll put that on a TODO list [14:24] That sounds to be counterproductive. PyCorewar is a library and not a standalong executable. [14:24] *standalone [14:25] But then I can make a standalone PyMars (which a lot of people would want I think) [14:25] Then they don't have to install Python etc [14:25] Yes, why not :-) [14:26] py2exe will work out as long as it doesnt have 3289742893 dependencies [14:26] I don't think it will have.. [14:27] Under Linux the only dependency is Python [14:27] and that won't change [14:28] It should be fine, but you might have to change things around [14:28] Its as nice a tool as you can expect for compiling an interpreted language... [14:28] datagram: ??? [14:29] What [14:29] "It should be fine, but you might have to change things around" - What things? [14:30] It almost doesn't use Python, mostly just the C-libs [14:30] py2exe has issues with random shit [14:30] That's about all I can explain [14:31] You'll find out : ) [14:31] I hope, that I don't need to find out [14:31] Of course its hard to convert something interpreted>compiled [14:34] Roy, That's why I don't mind much when py2exe doesn't work [14:34] It has a hard job, I dig it [14:34] Yeah :) [14:35] But I haven't used it for a long time [14:35] it might be uber now... [14:36] I won't try it yet, maybe when there is a more complete version of pycw [14:36] hehe ... is "uber" really used? [14:36] Uber is also used in Holland :) [14:37] "Ã¼ber", but not "uber" :-) [14:37] ~A1/4? :P [14:37] a "u" with two dots over it [14:37] Über..? [14:38] Sorry, but I can't read your character-encoding, Roy [14:38] Try to use UTF-8, then I might see it :) [14:39] Uber is a popular online word [14:39] I'm just a trendy douche bag [14:41] It might become fun, if France ever decides to invade the US and (!) wins. [14:41] haha [14:41] Lots of new "trendy" words then [14:41] Uber is a cool word [14:41] Its just ubercool [14:41] Thank you for contributing it to e-culture. [14:42] In holland we are also using 'geil' :) [14:42] Which means? [14:42] I didn't take part in it. I usually try to translate all computerspeak into good german [14:42] Ganz geil!! [14:43] Which translates to "I <3 boobies"? [14:43] datagram: Originally "geil" meant "horny", but today it is just the same as "cool" [14:43] How do I say "I <3 boobies" in german/dutch/* [14:44] Heh, thats why its so funny, in Holland it still means 'horny' but the germans just say it about everything [14:44] I love boobies <> Ik hou van tieten [14:44] woot. [14:45] Maybe it would be better, if Holland invades the US [14:45] Lol at babelfish, it translates it into: Ich liebe Dummköpfe [14:45] What is dummkpfe [14:46] "pumpkins" just like Al Bundy says [14:46] hmm, a guess a fool [14:46] When I translate it back it says: "I love fools" [14:46] Try to translate it back a forth for a while [14:47] Heh, you have scripts that do that, it was all the hype here for a while (in #corewars) [14:47] Roy, What language is that? babelfish can't translate it as german -> english [14:47] (or dutch) [14:47] er... yes it does [14:47] If you usually use sth like. English <-> Chineses it will be lots of fun [14:47] *Chinese [14:47] ich liebe Br?ste [14:48] nah [14:48] http://babelfish.altavista.com/ can translate into german and dutch [14:48] That would about the same as "I love breasts" [14:48] Fluffy, I put breasts in, I figured it wasn't cool enough to know what boobies are [14:49] Ich Liebe Euter :) [14:49] lol [14:49] euter? [14:49] 1 second after you've said that you'll probbly dead [14:49] That's what cows have. [14:49] Utters :) [14:50] Oh, I see [14:50] Alright, I have to finish some papers and go to bed [14:50] Thats what happend when I translates breasts in dutch (borsten) to english [14:50] See you kids later [14:50] * Fluffy waves [14:50] Bye data [14:50] I'll get more tournament stuff setup in the comign weeks [14:50] Get ready :salute: [14:50] arg, thats french [14:51] Salut! [14:51] That's French [14:51] Tschuess [14:51] again two dots missing ;-) [14:51] Tschüess! [14:52] Now I only see a question mark ... [14:52] That's why I hate IRC [14:52] no proper character encoding :-( [14:52] In the log it appears ok [14:52] i see the dots [14:52] :-) [14:53] You just have a broken irc client Jens [14:53] Yeah I see them [14:53] But I'm asleep! [14:53] * datagram vanishes [14:53] As far as I know IRC only specifies the use of ASCII [14:53] Not going well, he sees dots in his sleep [14:53] hehe [15:35] * Fluffy waves [15:36] MSG: Quit: Leaving. [15:42] MSG: [15:59] Join: Core29 joined #corewars [16:23] whoa. [16:23] oops. [16:27] Join: Roy joined #corewars [16:27] I thought everyone was quiet.. [16:27] What are you oopsing about bvowk? :) [16:27] but it turns out I'd had screen in copy mode.. [16:27] hehe... [16:28] no, we where very active! [16:28] and fluffy: there is perfect character encoding for irc.. 7 bit ascii, you godless non-english demon! [16:28] * bvowk ducks [16:29] so whatcha hacking on roy? [16:29] anything good? [16:29] currently not hacking anything, just waiting until I'm going out for dinner [16:30] whats for dinner? [16:30] * bvowk is having giant steaks of doom, bbq'd, w/ enormous cans of japanese beer [16:30] its a big life for me I guess. [16:31] Hehe, now watching the SketchUp (google) tutorial movie, and that guy makes a mistake in the movie :) [16:32] With his cursor he points at three lines, a red/blue and green one, first he points at the green one, and calls it green, next the red line, and calls it blue :-S [16:32] I'm going out to eat Tapas.. [16:33] (never eaten that before) [16:33] MSG: Ping timeout: 252 seconds [16:33] ahh. [16:33] where do you lives roy? [16:33] we've got a very good tapas resturant just a block from my house.. [16:33] they serve awesome sangria too [16:34] problem is when I go there with friends we'll drink like 8 pitchers of it and then they all have to crash on my floor [16:34] lol now on sevilla there are on feria [16:34] feria de abril [16:35] In Holland :) [16:35] we drink "rebujito" [16:36] we drink uhm beer! [16:36] Tapas are all kinds of small thingies right? [16:36] yes [16:37] everyone eat a little of all [16:38] Hmm, I'll just have to see then [16:39] Ohw and bvowk: I made a Windows pymars :) [16:39] yow. [16:39] just goes to show even the nicest guy can bring an abomination into the world :) [16:39] Pretty damn fast, this (older version) is already 268% pmars speed [16:40] heh [16:40] fmars is even faster still.. (although I'm not sure about windows).. [16:40] it always makes me go wtf?! done already? [16:40] Heh, fmars is almost as fast in Linux now, Jens'll beat that speed [16:41] But I have no idea about pymars, I can't compare to fmars (because I don't have that working here yet) [16:49] Join: Neogryzor joined #corewars [16:49] greets neo [16:49] greets bvowk [16:50] hi neo! [16:50] hi roy [16:50] hmm, found a version of exmars, also pretty fast, but not as fast as pycorewar [16:52] Anything new, guys? [16:54] Not really, some new warriors on nano I think and I got PyCorewar working on windows [16:59] sf is doing a nice work on nano, eh bvowk? [17:06] i'll be back later [17:07] Nick Change: Neogryzor changed nick to Neo_busy [17:07] * Roy is going to the tapas bar [17:07] MSG: [17:17] Join: Core29 joined #corewars [17:20] MSG: Quit: 12• IRcap [7.51] 12• http://www.ircap.net 12• [17:24] MSG: Ping timeout: 252 seconds [17:25] yeah.. sf is kicking ass. [17:31] I'm down to just 9 on the hill [17:53] MSG: Ping timeout: 252 seconds [18:28] Join: Neo_busy joined #corewars [18:36] MSG: [19:06] Join: Core29 joined #corewars [19:23] MSG: Ping timeout: 252 seconds [22:17] MSG: Quit: humhum