[09:07] Join: fiveop joined #corewars [09:39] Join: sf joined #corewars [09:39] Hello [10:05] Hey [10:05] Hi Datagram [10:06] You're organising a tournament I see [10:06] I'd like to take part as long as the rounds won't be too wierd! [10:06] Heh, we'll see how it goes : ) [10:06] It should start around the end of the month [10:07] Are many people planning to take part? [10:07] *shrug* [10:07] The page is datagram.redcode.nl but nothing is up yet [10:07] Oh :) [10:08] I'll link to that next time I update my webpage :) [10:08] Cool [10:09] I'm just looking for a slide rule on ebay but I haven't a clue what to go for [10:17] Ok I think I'll go for a Faber-Castell 2/83N [10:20] Heh [10:22] There aren't any for sale in the UK so I'm looking for something similar [10:24] How the hell do they not sell those in the UK...? [10:25] Not that particular model at the moment on Ebay [10:26] Oh I see [10:45] There's a 2/82N bidding has reached £26 [10:47] And a 2/84N at £311 [10:50] what's a sliderule? [10:51] fiveop, Its like a ruler with a slider on it...more or less [10:53] fiveop: like a ruler which calculates stuff [10:53] ah [10:56] MSG: Quit: Lost terminal [10:57] MSG: Ping timeout: 252 seconds [10:58] Join: sf[2] joined #corewars [10:58] Join: fiveop joined #corewars [10:58] Join: trundlede joined #corewars [10:59] Hi trundlede [10:59] hi [10:59] Are you new here? [11:00] yes - I saw your website mentioned on a forum so I looked at it and came here [11:00] Welcome [11:01] Which forum? [11:01] Are you new to Corewar or have you played before? [11:02] gpforums.co.nz [11:02] I have no idea what it is - I am reading the info files on your homepage [11:04] You might also like to look at the other two pages in the subject [11:05] This is a decent short intro to what Corewar is about [11:05] http://corewar.co.uk/manley/guide.htm [11:06] trundlede: who's homepage? [11:06] The sites in the topic bar are good starting points [11:07] sorry - i meant koth.org [11:07] johnkw and tuc [11:08] Metcalf, Fizmo, Johnkw/Tuc and Christoph have the most informative Corewar sites. [11:09] But if you would like to learn Redcode, I suggest this guide http://vyznev.net/corewar/guide.html [11:10] If you have any questions, you can ask here or in the rec.games.corewar newsgroup [11:15] I hope the information of our Beginner Guidance Professional sf was helpfull [11:16] yeah, I am reading it now [11:18] I was a beginner not too long ago :) [11:21] Are there alot of people that actively engage in this ? [11:22] I guess about 30 who are active once per month or more [11:28] There's a beginner hill [11:29] Just send your program with ;redcode-94b at the top to [11:29] Will my warrior die after the next challenge..? [11:29] datagram: yes :( [11:30] Sigh... [11:30] He was so cool.. [11:30] In fact I think it will take about 20 challenges for the beginner hill to fill [11:30] Guess what would happen if we submitted 50 DAT warriors ;) [11:31] Heh [11:31] I kinda don't like them being kicked off, but whatever [11:32] age 100 would be better [11:32] Yeah [11:35] my tiny has age 26 :) [11:35] Have you submitted Planter to any of the other hills? Like multi-warrior? [11:35] Isn't that one 8192? [11:36] I am not sure, he worked well on 94b because he was written on the basis that his score would improve as people tried to counter the hill trend [11:36] (he debuted at 17th, but moved up to 1st real quick) [11:37] No, only the icws and 94t are 8192 [11:38] 11th place is good fiveop, I've not had any luck on tiny so far [11:40] the strategy is quite elementar [11:41] Join: Neogryzor joined #corewars [11:41] There aren't even any oneshots in the top 1/2 of the hill, which surprises me [11:41] Hi Neo :) [11:41] hi sf [11:41] Hi Neogryzor [11:41] hi datagram [11:41] Some interesting activity on nano recently :) [11:42] yeah, nice :) [11:42] Did you notice the new warrior which scores 100% wins against some opponents? the kraken awakes [11:43] the kraken awakes? Looks very good [11:44] * sf[2] wonders what Roy has created! [11:45] doesn't it loses 100% against some opponents? [11:46] He said his recent top warrior were handwritten, right? [11:46] hmm ... no [11:46] No, it wins 100% against some :) [11:46] Yes, handwritten [12:03] MSG: Ping timeout: 252 seconds [12:27] Join: Fluffy joined #corewars [12:27] :-) [12:28] Hi Flupfy [12:28] Hi Neogryzor [12:31] Hi Fluff [12:31] :-) [12:32] I'm installing LFS on my "new" computer, but still don't have an acceptable for it. Any suggestions? [12:33] What is LFS? [12:34] Linux from Scratch (http://www.linuxfromscratch.org) - You install your own Linux system only from the sources of every program. [12:34] Lovely Fluffy Software? [12:34] hehe [12:34] hehehe [12:35] But I still need a good hostname and I've run out of ideas :-( [12:35] Fluffy: what's an acceptable? [12:35] current hostnames are "bob", "waff" and "fluffy" [12:35] my pcs are named after my roleplaying characters [12:35] ardor/gravor currently ;) [12:35] I'm looking for a particular stupid name. [12:35] name them after famous warriors [12:35] "stupid"? [12:36] I've already thought of naming it "brot" (engl. "bread") [12:36] but I'm not sure [12:36] Fluffy, So...pretty much gentoo? [12:36] not brot [12:36] datagram: worse even worse [12:36] Well you've already used Fluffy, I can't think of another stupid name [12:36] :P [12:36] datagram: yes, but you do everything manually and you have no package management [12:36] ow..! [12:36] Yeah, that's like a gento lvl 3 install (or lvl 1, I don't remember) [12:37] no [12:37] that's worse datagram! [12:37] datagram: You probably should say, that Gentoo is like LFS, because LFS was there first [12:37] gentoo has ALWAYS package managment [12:38] ok ... that means no suggestions here. I probably take another Dune character [12:39] duncan [12:39] "Sandsworm"? [12:39] bunny [12:39] Atreides sounds good also [12:39] sf[2]: Yes, that might be a good idea, too [12:40] barbarossa [12:40] I still have time to think about it, because it will probably take a few more hours before I can set the hostname [12:40] "sodumbitpingstoitself" [12:40] Fluffy, I see [12:40] Fluffy, Barbarossa <- [12:40] http://namingschemes.com/index.php/Main_Page [12:40] Nick Change: datagram changed nick to datagramm [12:41] Fluffy: what type of new pc did you've got? [12:41] damn 9 character nonsense [12:41] Nick Change: datagramm changed nick to datagram [12:41] datagram: If I'd have to take some of the titans, I'd use "Tlaloc" [12:41] But barbarossa drops the hacks! Tlaloc is cool, too, though : ) [12:41] I'm naming a warrior barbarossa [12:42] * datagram reserves said name [12:42] Ok, i'll use rossabarba :) [12:43] datagram: I've learned, that you should only announce a name, if a) you've already sent the warrior or b) it is so stupid, that nobody else would use it [12:43] ... or c) you have a way to frighten everybody NOT to use it [12:44] I'll cut anyone who uses it [12:44] Fluffy, That work? [12:45] datagram: Everybody must believe, that you will do it, if necessary [12:45] datagram: And I don't! :-) [12:45] Fluff: you go for option b I take it [12:45] Fluffy, Guess I'll have to make an example of someone... [12:45] YOU [12:45] Fluffy: I like ubuntu [12:45] sf[2]: YES! [12:45] fiveop: I like it, too, but LFS suits me better [12:46] Gogo slackware! [12:46] still no silly name suggestions? [12:46] why? [12:47] name it after one of us :) [12:47] the ubuntu installation took about 25 minutes [12:47] datagram: I'm looking forward to meet you [12:47] Flupfy: I can ask to my random name generator if you want [12:47] partitioning inclusive [12:47] Fluffy, I'll be the guy with a really big sword : ) [12:47] maybe two, who knows? [12:47] I'll be in italy later this year [12:47] fiveop: Because after the LFS installation I know exactly, what I've installed and how I've configured it. [12:47] You guys should come visit me : ) [12:48] datagram: I don't think, that wearing big swords in public is allowed here [12:48] Fluffy, Really? Here it is legal to carry around single sided swords as long as they are in a sheath [12:48] Fluffy: superkalifragilistischexpiallegorisch! [12:48] datagram: Yes, I know ... the land of the stupid laws [12:48] Haha [12:49] Fluffy, We are just a sword-centric culture [12:49] fiveop: I don't want to kill myself writing that hostname [12:49] :) [12:49] hm [12:49] uneigentlich [12:49] Bananach! [12:49] name it bananach! [12:49] That guy is already dead [12:50] ... and banach spaces aren't that interesting [12:50] pneumonoultramicroscopicsilicovolcanoconiosis [12:50] What's curved an complete ... :P [12:50] fiveop: Wrong question! [12:50] hm? [12:50] well you've got the Diplom [12:50] fiveop: What's green and has big red dots? [12:51] tell me [12:51] the said spaces [12:51] banachspaces? [12:51] yes [12:51] + [12:51] why? [12:51] don't get it [12:51] Brotowaxip [12:51] Neogryzor: ? [12:51] brotowaxip might be a good hostname [12:52] Just a random generated name [12:52] hm [12:52] fiveop: There is no way to get it. It is just a stupid question. [12:52] ... [12:52] Elihomuhede [12:52] Milucrufic [12:52] Brotowaxip [12:52] Aher [12:52] Hodejem [12:52] Uguaselan [12:52] at least ... "Was ist krum und vollstÃ¤ndig? -> Bananachraum" is abit funny [12:53] senseless though.. [12:53] fiveop: ... but as stupid as "Let epsilon < 0" [12:53] yes [12:53] but I like it :P [12:53] It wears out with time [12:54] Best suggestion so far: "bunny" [12:54] one of your profs startet the 'Nikolaus Vorlesung' in front of all kind of students with: [12:54] "FÃ¼r meine heute Vorlesung muss man glÃ¼cklicherweise kein Epsilon Mathematik verstanden haben." [12:54] hmm [12:55] bunny is stupid for a stupid name [12:55] I only remember "If you don't understand that then you don't belong in here" [12:55] +ige [12:55] meine heute ... [12:55] lol [12:55] Call it Amoeba [12:55] fiveop: Do you have a better suggestion? [12:56] hm [12:56] Honigkuchenpferd [12:56] nah [12:56] I've to prepare a small talk about gersgorin disks for tomorrow :/ [12:57] huh? [12:57] what? [12:58] Proseminar in Algebra [12:59] Fluffy, Just go on urban dictionary and push random until you find something stupid enough [12:59] (it won't take long) [13:00] I should call it "ping" [13:00] then I can do "ping ping" on command line [13:00] Or pong [13:00] ping pong [13:01] ping ping [13:02] hmm ... it is sad, that I can't name it "; rm -f *" :-( [13:05] hmmm ... how is that dust ball called at userfriendly.org? [13:06] ? [13:06] dust puppy [13:07] stupid me! [13:08] ah I see [13:10] Yay! I've just cracked the 100 billion instruction mark while optimizing my next warrior [13:12] What is your next warrior Fluff? [13:12] No, I can' tell you its name yet. It is so stupid, that everybody would want to use it [13:16] sf[2]: ... but it will contain lot's of interesting instructions [13:16] sf[2]: ... and you know, that I still haven't finished playing with papers [13:18] ok ... it is settled now. I've used "bunny" as hostname [13:19] :) [13:19] Do I get anything for having the winning choice? [13:20] yes! the last instruction of my warrior [13:21] :) [13:22] Only another 99 required and I can reconstruct it :) [13:22] Quit revealing, isn't it? [13:22] Thats unusual [13:22] I'll have to think about what that implies very carefully [13:23] I'll be back later guys [13:23] Nick Change: Neogryzor changed nick to Neo_away [13:23] * Fluffy waves [13:24] * Neo_away w4vez [13:24] * sf[2] waves [13:27] Did you read this? http://www.pvk.ca/tiki/tiki-index.php?page=ProbabilityMars [13:27] yes [14:00] MSG: Read error: Connection reset by peer [14:04] * Fluffy waves [14:05] MSG: Quit: Leaving. [14:06] * sf[2] waves [14:06] MSG: Quit: I was using TinyIRC! Visit http://www.tinyirc.net/ for more information. [14:19] Join: Roy joined #corewars [14:38] Roy, Boobies. [14:38] That is all. [14:39] Boobs <3 [14:39] Indeed [14:47] Boobies rule [14:47] * Roy knows somebody with male-boobies *giggles* [14:57] I goto bed now [14:57] Night night [15:07] * Roy waves [15:29] Funny to see the sudden rise of tieing warriors on nano :) [15:42] Join: sf joined #corewars [15:42] Hi Roy [15:45] Why's that funny Roy? I had several tieing warriors on there recently [15:49] Well, the sudden rise after I submitted those new tieing warriors :) [15:49] And you gave me the idea! [15:50] Mine didn't do so well though [15:50] I reached 3rd place with Bombus Vox [15:50] Thats nice..! that new guy is second now :o [15:51] And the lead I had is pretty much gone, probably even more after I test my latest warrior (which counters imps...in theory) [15:52] Hwm is 1st on 94b. Read the strategy line ;) [15:52] * sf loads up the nano and keeps refreshing [15:53] Yeah, I noticed that hehe [15:56] Hrm, didn't quite make it.. [16:00] What didn't quite make it? [16:00] My nano warrior [16:00] I don't think "quite" is the right work [16:00] It's 60 points off! [16:01] heh :( [16:01] Are you nearly up to $100 yet Roy? [16:02] Join: Nenad joined #corewars [16:02] hi [16:02] Heh not really, going slowly :) [16:03] Dinner! bye [16:03] Nick Change: Roy changed nick to RoyAFK [16:03] bye! [16:04] Hi Nenad [16:06] hi :) Why didn't you participate in rf25? it wasn't a difficult round. [16:11] Didn't understand it to begin with so I left it and left it then suddenly it was too late :( [16:12] :( well, all you had to do, basically, was to send two warriors which have approximately 50%:50% score when fighting each other + have one of the lose as much as possible to all opponents, and the other win as much as possible [16:14] the formula itself only specified that you could gain more points by losing than by winning, so a double - DAT combo which Zul Nadzri used was possible, if you wanted to go for a safe option [16:16] Join: Fluffy joined #corewars [16:16] Was p-space allowed [16:16] HI Fluff [16:16] :) [16:16] hi Jens [16:16] sf: no [16:17] Jens: what happened with that project of yours where you generated warriors for tiny? [16:19] I've been working on other projects and couldn't let it run since. [16:20] But I won't forget it [16:20] fucking deer. [16:20] ? [16:20] Hi bvowk [16:20] why can't they stay off the highway and not smash into my car at high speeds [16:21] bvowk: It seems, that you are having fun [16:21] you killed a deer? [16:21] yeah, hit one with my car [16:21] well, that's misfortunate (for both of you) [16:21] crunching its nice red sportyness into an expensive repair job :( [16:21] luckily only the deer suffered injury [16:22] ... and your eternal soul ;-) [16:22] naw.. just my pocketbook [16:23] well, drive a bike next time :) [16:24] yikes.. [16:24] Nenad: We are talking about Canada! [16:24] my city is likely larger than your freaking country! [16:24] :) [16:24] I know [16:24] and there are likely 1/100th the people :) [16:24] bvowk: You have cities? ;-) [16:24] :) [16:25] no, we live in caves [16:25] btw, how far do you have to go from home to office? [16:25] not very far.. [16:26] its about a 30 minute walk.. or a 10 minute train ride [16:26] but my results are not typical [16:26] my father generally spends about 4-5 hours a day driving [16:27] is he a bus driver then? :) [16:27] no, he drives between oilfield sites [16:27] just joking :). Why do you have to use the car so much? [16:28] I mean, can't you get most of the stuff you need every day nearby? [16:28] I was driving to my parents place for mothers day.. [16:28] about 2 hours drive each way [16:28] that's today isn't it? [16:28] yeah, but I have mother and mother in law, so we visit them on alternate days [16:29] nenad: canada is freaking huge tho. [16:29] since everyone needs a car to get anywhere for the most part, everyone builds things assuming that everyone else has a car.. [16:29] Hi Bvowky [16:29] so things tend to be strung out all over [16:29] how many people life in canada? [16:30] fiveop: > 1 [16:30] bvowk: I know :) I like the nature there a lot. I hope that I'll be able to go there once and just walk through those forests for some time [16:30] 32,569,394 [16:30] that's not much [16:30] for that surface [16:31] no, so we're in tiny little clusters spread all over the place [16:31] hey sf [16:31] for my country, you probably need a looking glass when you open up the world atlas, but it's 10.000.000 here, and not so densely populated, either [16:32] bbiab [16:32] that's less then half the population of germany [16:33] Nenad: which country? [16:33] Have you seen the film V for Vendetta? [16:33] fiveop: well, it will probably change again soon [16:33] sf: no [16:33] is it good? [16:34] fiveop: ex-Yugoslavia, currently Serbia&Montenegro, probably only Serbia in a month, and - who knows? possibly only Vojvodina in a few years... [16:35] ah you studied math too, didn't you? [16:35] yes. I still do :) [16:35] 2,5 years to go [16:35] yes. [16:36] well, it depends. the whole system is about to change, so it might be 3,5 years actually [16:36] I don't know if it is good. [16:36] what? [16:36] It's too late to see it, so I just bought the book. [16:37] ah V [16:37] don't watch that much films [16:37] and haven't got a tv ... [16:37] Sorry, I'm a bit behind on the conversation [16:37] * sf has no TV either [16:37] sf: Do you have again problems to see our messages? [16:37] well, I've got one, but I'm not using it much [16:37] no that I would miss it [16:40] Join: Neo_away joined #corewars [16:41] hi [16:41] hi [16:41] Nick Change: Neo_away changed nick to Neogryzor [16:41] Hi Neo [16:41] Fluffy: yes, I'm having problems seeing your messages [16:41] Fluffy: my browser is getting in the way! :P [16:42] which one? [16:43] a lot of people here :). We might even hold a mini-tourney tonight [16:43] :) [16:45] when Roy returns from his daily food consumation activity :) [16:46] heh [16:58] I'm using valid HTML for my webpage now! [16:58] This is a useful addon for Firefox https://addons.mozilla.org/firefox/249/ [16:58] * RoyAFK votes for lp-nano! [16:58] Nick Change: RoyAFK changed nick to Roy [16:59] * sf has a warrior ready! [16:59] What's the prize? [17:00] heh, qscans will rule that :( [17:00] Nenad votes for NOT (nano) [17:00] Nick Change: Fluffy changed nick to NotFluffy [17:00] why do you think lpnano would be much different from nano itself? [17:00] How about erhm.. micro? (6 lines 100 core) [17:00] Because almost all nano warrior depend on spl# [17:01] With one process it'll be a different story [17:01] 6 lines 100 core would have my vote :P [17:02] so, you're a microcorewarologist now :) [17:02] I'm fine with that, too [17:02] No no [17:02] btw, Roy - a question [17:02] How many people will take part? [17:02] No, lets do prime numbers: 7 lines, coresize 223, 1277 cycles :P [17:03]