[02:01] Making the CSS for the tournament now... [02:36] How many people should I expect to have for the tournament? [02:50] "You have to be atleast 10% smarter than the item you are attempting to wield" <- just found that one [02:50] 15-20? [02:50] Hey Mizcu [02:51] Alright [02:51] well, that was a bit optimistic [02:51] 10-15 [02:51] Well, I have US people I know who will probably play [02:51] But they're all newbies [02:52] 10-15 Plus newbies [02:54] That works [02:54] The page should be up by the end of the night [02:54] I am ass at css, so that's the only thing slowing me down [04:17] MSG: [04:22] Join: Mizcu joined #corewars [05:25] Anyone here have pycorewar? [06:26] Join: fiveop joined #corewars [08:33] Join: Velma joined #corewars [08:39] Part: Velma left #corewars [10:52] Topic Change: datagram sets topic: http://datagram.redcode.nl Spring Tournament Page is up! I'll be filling in the 404's over the week. Please register ASA [10:52] Topic Change: datagram sets topic: http://datagram.redcode.nl Spring Tournament homepage up! Please register ASAP so I can flesh out the player list -datag [10:53] Topic Change: datagram sets topic: http://datagram.redcode.nl Spring Tournament homepage up! Please register ASAP so I can fill in player list -datagram [10:53] There we go [10:53] Topic Change: datagram sets topic: [http://datagram.redcode.nl] Spring Tournament homepage up! Please register ASAP so I can fill in player list -datagram [11:35] MSG: Ping timeout: 252 seconds [11:49] Join: datagram joined #corewars [12:06] Join: Core29 joined #corewars [12:10] Join: elkauka joined #corewars [12:10] hi [12:12] hi [12:15] Hey elkauka got your email [12:16] ok! ;) [12:16] how many people take so far? [12:16] Just you, I just posted it a few hours ago [12:17] Heh, only starting writing the HTML/CSS to the site around 10 hours ago, too [12:17] so lets hope i stay #1 in the tourney too ;) [12:18] : ) [12:18] Oh, I haven't uploaded the updated version yet... [12:18] I'll do so after I finish schedule page [12:18] speeking of your side: it looks kinda messed up with firefox too, the registration part is on the blackground (with black font) ... [12:19] if i decreade my font size, it works fine ... [12:19] Yeah...its not very pretty [12:19] I noticed the size thing [12:20] I have it on "normal" [12:20] For all my firefox machines [12:21] but it lokks fine with lynx ;) [12:21] Heh [12:21] Join: Fluffy joined #corewars [12:22] What is your text size at? [12:22] :) [12:22] hi fluffy [12:22] I suck pretty hard at CSS (tonight my first night using it for something real, actually) [12:22] So I don't know how to maintain it being semi pretty while being compatible with all sizes [12:23] then skip the whole layout stuff and just offer rss ;) [12:23] elkauka, I am probably going to do that [12:23] All I have to do is have a .xml file that I update, neh? [12:23] kinda yeah [12:23] And your rss readers will figure the rest out [12:23] Yes, and rss feed would be nice! [12:24] elkauka, Anything else I have to do (besides format it properly, of course) [12:24] To get RSS up, that is [12:24] datagram: error in line 57: [12:25] you probably mean

there are around 3 rss "standards" out there, dunno which one is the most popular [12:25] err ..

[12:25] datagram: I'm fine with any standard [12:25] Fluffy, I haven't uploaded the updated version [12:25] :) [12:25] Its pretty ugly if you don't use normal text settings, too : ) [12:25] me too, GUSH can handle the most of them ;) [12:26] But the good news is.....everything I find on css zen garden is exactly the same way, so I don't feel bad [12:26] datagram: Apart fromt that there is an empty in line 49 [12:26] All spans are removed in updated version [12:26] k [12:26] I just included them because this css tutorial I did was liek "yeah use span" [12:26] and then I realized I didn't need it [12:27] One sec I'll upload the new version + semi finished schedule [12:27] I like the page the way it is [12:27] they mixed it up with "spam" ;) [12:27] Fluffy, Its just a tidied up version [12:27] Same layout and everything [12:28] I woulda had it all earlier but roys ftp times out after 5 minutes and it kept bothering me to have to relogin [12:29] datagram: Tell when you've uploaded the new version [12:30] Err [12:30] Roys server keeps kicking me off : / [12:30] then kick Roy :-) [12:31] I'm not cool enough for a shell : ( [12:31] datagram: Did you get my registration? [12:32] Yes [12:32] :) [12:33] fluffy, have you been on the 22nd Chaos Communication Congress (22C3) ? [12:33] no [12:33] seems neutrino really made some stuff about cw there [12:33] http://www.cymeg.de/22c3/ [12:33] damn, i missed it :( [12:33] yes, Fizmo told me about it [12:33] was fizmo there? [12:33] don't know [12:34] Um...can I not @import more than one stylesheet? [12:34] It works when I do it locally [12:35] Nevermind, I'm retarded [12:36] Apparently, locally if you misspell it as blah.css. your machine goes "whatever, blah.css is close enough" [12:38] Fluffy, Updated version is up [12:38] How pretty it is depends on your resolution/browser [12:38] firefox 1.0.7 seems to be the best, 1.0.5 has little inconcistencies [12:38] tidy says, that it is ok [12:39] 0 warnings/0 errors [12:39] Oh cool [12:39] It doesn't work in IE [12:39] it turns the paragraph header backgrounds white [12:39] schedule.html has bugs [12:40] In the table : ) ? [12:40] line 73 [12:40] --> [12:40] Oh, yeah [12:40] That was the old index.html copied, heh [12:40] ... and your table should have a summary [12:41] ...? [12:41] I mean [12:41] That seems pretty random [12:41] huh? [12:41] What's that actually used for? [12:42] To shortly describe, what the table is about [12:42] you shouldn't use tables at all! [12:42] The final piece of marking up tables is providing a summary. The summary of a table is never displayed in visual browsers; it is exclusively designed for screen readers and speech browsers. It is exactly what it sounds like: a summary, a longer description than the caption. It is usually read immediately before the caption. [12:42] fiveop, Yeah, I could be using CSS for those tables [12:42] But I fail at CSS [12:42] datagram: I often browse with lynx/links :-) [12:43] Heh [12:43] (14:21:25) elkauka: but it lokks fine with lynx ;) [12:44] Hey actually it does [12:44] ok, ok, looks fine with links, too [12:44] by the way, who do I have to bribe to win? And how much would that be? [12:45] Me, I guess [12:45] Fluffy: are there ANY sides that are 'visitable' with lynx? [12:45] And I've been known to fancy european locks <_< [12:45] locks? [12:45] Indeed [12:46] datagram: In which way are they special? [12:46] fiveop: Yes [12:46] http://layerone.info/2006/postcon.html [12:47] See if you can find me ;) [12:48] that guy over there? [12:49] The picture is just my hands [12:49] But I spoke at the conference [12:49] :) [12:50] Anyways yeah, locks are probably the best bribing tools [12:51] elkauka: When will you publish your vamp? [12:52] hm, havend i published it yet? [12:52] as far as I know, no [12:52] The 94nop one? [12:52] yes [12:52] Ah yes I'd like to see sometime too [12:52] wait, i'm looking for the source code [12:53] I hope, that you sill have it! [12:55] datagram: What about that "hill"-link? will you provide hills for the tournament? [12:55] let me just ask my might yahoo mail archiev ;) [12:55] No, links to other hills [12:55] I don't think I have enough time to hack together the PHP interface for this tournament (course projects are this week and finals next...) [12:56] elkauka: If I remember correctly, you've sent a copy to Fizmo [12:56] fizmo, added the q scan and optimized it again ;) [12:57] and yes for this copy i'm looking now ;) [12:59] datagram: why bribing tool? [12:59] fiveop, Its a hobby [13:00] I'm big on all forms of security : ) [13:01] So I'll consult you when building a house [13:02] http://csstudent.cs.funpic.de/vampsareback.txt [13:02] that the final one if i recall right [13:02] fiveop, Indeed [13:02] was it a hobby conference? [13:02] elkauka, fiveop Fluffy So, if I'm not mistaken, I can just setup a .xml file with notepad [13:03] yes [13:03] fiveop, Computer/physical security conference [13:03] I'm theiving the L1 format [13:04] http://www.3dvf.com/modules/galeriev2/artiste.php?idartist=2787 I like the pictures of this guy [13:07] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/RSS_%28file_format%29 [13:07] datagram: as long as I can view the feed with Firefox I don't care how many errors your xml file contains ;-) [13:08] Does anybody know a program for Linux, which can play way-files with the standard speaker? [13:10] * datagram busts out vi [13:10] way or wav? [13:10] *wav [13:11] or mp3 or whatever [13:11] standard speaker? [13:11] what's a standard speaker? [13:11] amaroK should work fine [13:11] that think, that does "beep" when you boot your computer [13:12] I've unplugged the pc speaker [13:12] ;) [13:12] oh ... [13:12] I don't like being beeped at [13:12] :P [13:12] is it even possible to play other stuff than beep sounds on this speaker? [13:13] yes, it is [13:13] I've done that a long time ago under DOS [13:13] sound worse than via telephone, but it works [13:14] * elkauka is looking for a srewdriver to look for the pc speaker in his laptop [13:14] datagrampwnx 1.0 [13:19] I so pwn [13:19] http://datagram.redcode.nl/corewar.xml [13:19] : ) [13:20] 15:07 <@TalisA> nein aber ich habs eins gesaugt in dem das xbox360 netzteil [13:20] 15:07 <@TalisA> nein aber ich habs eins gesaugt in dem das xbox360 netzteil [13:20] ups [13:20] I am tu stupid to use a touchpad [13:20] too [13:20] middleclick/rightclick/whateverclick :/ [13:20] Heh [13:20] I am using a touchpad right now [13:21] I also liked trackballs a few years ago, but haven't used one lately [13:21] Those are pretty cool [13:22] Fluffy, Test that in firefox for me please [13:22] I only use akregator [13:22] one mo [13:24] I see nothing, which looks like a feed, when I go to datagram.redcode.nl [13:24] seems to be, because you don't advertize the feed in your html file [13:25] You can't just input the url? [13:25] http://datagram.redcode.nl/corewar.xml [13:25] I'll put a link up, one sec [13:25] (I'm used to just pasting the url to akregator : D) [13:26] [13:26] that should go into the head of the html file [13:26] with a proper link of course [13:29] try now [13:30] Fluffy, [13:30] MSG: Quit: Trillian (http://www.ceruleanstudios.com [13:30] Err [13:30] My page isn't loading : / [13:31] yes [13:31] Is it just me? [13:31] no [13:31] Another reason to kick Roy ;-) [13:31] Hehe [13:31] Maybe he has a real small connection limit...? [13:33] Or someone noticed he's running an old version of apache and dos'd it : / [13:34] hmm .. [13:35] I can still ftp in... [13:36] Wtf... [13:40] What time does roy usually get on? [13:41] no idea, but sending him an email might be a good idea [13:42] Just did [13:44] hmm ... installing LFS is boring :-( [13:46] you should've installed ubuntu [13:46] you'd already finished [13:47] fiveop: no, I wouldn't, because I would need to remove all the unneeded stuff afterwards [13:48] you would want to [13:48] but wouldn't need to :P [13:49] /dev/hda7 81G 2.3G 79G 3% / [13:49] I need to! [13:49] no reason to remove 'unnecessary' stuff [13:49] ;) [13:50] First I have to uninstall those stupid configuration programs [13:50] I don't like it when my computer pretends to be smarter than me [13:50] the people who wrote that stuff might be :P [13:50] if it is, fine, but so far I haven't encountered one [13:51] I would have to read 23423234 configuration files [13:51] Ã¤h [13:51] manpages [13:51] what do I need a config program for. I only need to setup X Windows, the network and the sound card [13:51] that's easy [13:52] so I ask you if I have any problems ;) [13:53] You can ask, but it depends on the circumstances, whether you'll get a useful answer ;-) [13:53] can you tell me why my xserver (xrandr) on my laptop only offers me 640x480,800x600,1024x768 and 1280x800 as useable resolutions, even if the card is capable of 1280x1024 and 1600x1200 [13:54] guess, what the circumstances are! [13:54] (in the xorg.conf file there are ONLY entrys for 1280x800 so ... I don't know if it is even read at all) [13:54] bad? [13:54] :P [13:54] what's the native resolution of your display? [13:54] 1280x800 [13:54] then I don't see any problems [13:54] I want to use another resolution for external displays [13:55] Still don't see any problems, because I've never played with external displays [13:55] hm? [13:55] and I know next to nothing about it [13:55] :) [13:55] do you know how x determines which resolution it offers? [13:56] If you are willing to provide the hardwar I'll tell you the solution immediately [13:56] So apparently it's back up [13:56] Try the xml now [13:56] you mean I should send you the laptop? :P [13:57] datagram: Works for me :-) [13:57] fiveop: and an external display of course [13:57] fiveop: for free [13:57] Cool [13:57] xml for the win [13:57] 3 registrations so far [13:57] 0700 here [13:57] Bed time! [13:57] ... ;) [13:57] n8 [13:57] * Fluffy waves [13:57] 7 o'clock ... omg [13:58] ? [13:58] Fluffy, Set it to auto update [13:58] I wanna see if I need to add pubdates for it to work [13:58] And sometime tomorrow I'll update it [13:59] datagram: ok [14:32] MSG: [14:39] * elkauka just change his mind [14:40] there seems to be only one proper standart for rss ;) [14:40] lol [14:40] elkauka: it is probably the other one, right? [14:40] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/RSS_(file_format) [14:41] ok, and i mean this one: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Atom_(standard) [14:42] and now the questions: is it web3.0 if my rss feed contains ajax ;) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ajax_(programming) [14:44] you're rss feed can't contain javascript [14:44] i wouldnt be so sure about that ;) [14:44] I wish we'd be back in the good ol' times, when pr0n was only ASCII-art ;-) [14:45] script is still plain text, you just need something to interpretate it [14:47] Fluffy: http://www.ascii-art.de/ascii/mno/nude_women.txt [14:47] the good ol'times are still there ;) [14:49] * Fluffy is just compiling glibc the last time :-) [15:57] MSG: Read error: Connection reset by peer [15:59] Join: johnkw joined #corewars [15:59] Join: sf joined #corewars [15:59] Hello [15:59] Hi sf :-) [16:00] Hi Fluff [16:00] Have I missed anything over the last couple of days? [16:00] http://datagram.redcode.nl [16:00] happy microsquish sploitpak day [16:01] Hi JKW :)] [16:01] Thanks for linking me :) [16:01] Hi johnkw! [16:01] Some of your links are broken now :( [16:01] :( [16:02] * johnkw will check [16:03] Those I noticed are at the bottom of the pMARS page [16:04] Versions compiled by Nandor and Phil Knight are gone [16:05] johnkw: this version of pMARS should be linked in my opinion http://www.cs.helsinki.fi/u/jpihlaja/cw/pmars-sdl/ [16:05] ... the SAL hill is missing [16:12] I would have prefered double elimination [16:19] heya [16:20] greetings all. [16:22] Hi Bvowky [16:22] Just catching up on the logs [16:28] yeah? [16:28] you don't need to read yesterday afternoon.. :) it was all a big rant, and fiveop said I won [16:28] likely means he just got sick of arguing against a madman. [16:29] I skimmed through just looking for anything Corewar related [16:29] nothing except the people arguing [16:31] We don't need a bot! [16:31] yeah, slap roy upside the head next time you see him [16:31] We ought to have more than one channel on here [16:31] why? [16:31] #corewars / #otherchat [16:32] #corewars and #!corewars [16:32] no, what we need is #idle [16:32] :) [16:32] if we had #idle, there'd never be anything in here! [16:32] Nothing wrong with idling here [16:32] Sometimes it takes ages to read the log] [16:33] we need someone around with kline ability tho [16:33] for that stupid bot [16:33] huh? [16:34] for that emiclock thing? [16:34] * Fluffy is away for food intake [16:35] that bot that comes in to annoy us periodically [16:37] It's not so bad if you /ignore it [16:37] I just wish people would stop responding because I can't ignore that [16:37] By the way does /ignore work when it keeps changing nick? [16:37] yes, /ignore is nice, but if someone had kline ability we could just make it go away completely [16:38] you should be able to ignore by ip/hostmask [16:38] I can [16:38] Well it seems to be gone now :) [16:38] our discussion of it will likely bring it back. [16:38] You think the bot reads the logs [16:38] no, I think the bot controller does [16:39] Can you make log_guy ignore the ip? :) [16:39] likely, but that would require me to bug tuc to install more scriptage [16:39] although I did say I was going to do it in six months, and its been about that.. [16:40] You could make log_guy an op which auto-ops certain people [16:41] Then you could /kick the stupid bot :) [16:42] might be a good idea too. losing ops in here all the time sucks [16:43] At least you and Fluff should be ops. [16:44] why fluff? he's too cute.. nobody would respect his authority [16:45] Everyone respects being /kicked ;) [16:46] Besides once you've seen the scary photo on his website, you have to respect him :P [16:46] heh [16:46] * Fluffy kicks sf [16:47] :( [16:47] It is not a scary photo [16:47] * sf burns an effigy of Fluff [16:47] It is one of the few photos where I just look like me and not like somebody else [16:48] * Fluffy continues to take in food [16:48] :-) [16:48] :) [16:49] Fluffy eats in front of his computer, a true hacker [16:49] No, I just take my laptop around the whole day ;-) [16:50] well ... actually I don't do that [16:51] I wasn't aware you could eat in other places.. all my tables have computers on them! [16:52] (and actually, I'm not joking about that now that I think about it) [16:54] I really wish I was made of user servicable parts [16:54] I could use some better feet [16:55] just make your county smaller [16:55] heh [16:57] I'm reading V for Vendetta [16:57] and? [16:57] why don't you go finish knocking me off the nano hill so I can get a fresh start when this code it done? [16:57] And I'm on page 62. [16:58] I mean, is it any good? [16:58] Well so far the story is good. [16:59] There's nothing unusual or special about the way it is written however. [17:02] anyone seen the movie? [17:02] btw: hi everybody [17:02] Hi El Kauka [17:03] No I missed the movie which is why I bought the book [17:04] wasnt the actress the one in "leon the profi" ? is it some sort of second part? [17:04] natalie portman? [17:04] thats the one ;) [17:04] Join: Mizcu joined #corewars [17:04] I couldn't believe how young she was in leon.. [17:05] I was like WTF?! [17:05] how young was she? [17:05] and even had a sex-scene [17:05] hi miz [17:05] Hi Miz [17:05] I didn't see any sex-scene [17:06] Hi Mizcu [17:06] of course you didnt, because of parent's ruling it was cut down [17:07] o.O [17:08] that likely would have turned me off natalie portman forever, so its likely best that I didn't see it. [17:09] hmm [17:10] sf: It seems, that we only need two channels here [17:10] sf: #corewars and #sex ;-) [17:11] I don't think #sex would be used much [17:11] #corewars isn't used much either ;-) [17:12] unless we've got a large homosexual contingent I'm not aware of.. [17:12] our supply of females in #corewars is constrained. [17:12] * Fluffy shrugs [17:12] aint heteros have sex these days? [17:13] elkauka: How should I know? ;-) [17:13] Then you should do something to make Corewar more appealing to girls [17:14] Yes, I've already suggested sth., but nobody replied [17:14] I'd like to introduce a new opcode in the next "standard" [17:14] Which opcode? [17:14] it is called "fluffy" [17:14] "furry" ;) [17:14] fluffy.i < 42, } x [17:15] I'm not sure that would work [17:15] what should it do? [17:15] elkauka: I don't know that [17:15] 42 = the answer to life, the universe and everything? [17:15] ;) [17:15] no, just my standard random number, sf [17:16] hrm, random number opcode "rnd" [17:16] so, fluffy < 42 means fluffy is less than the answer to life, the universe and everything? [17:16] Or did you mean fluffy != 42 [17:16] I didn't mean anything special, I just wanted to give an example [17:17] * sf sighs! :( [17:17] or maybe add some interactivity. such as "get" - get value from user [17:17] maybe we could change the default background of the corewars windows to be nice pastels. [17:17] * bvowk ducks [17:17] * sf really wishes a nano benchmark existed, like Wilkies or Wilfiz :( [17:17] rofl [17:18] sf: want my current? [17:18] bvowk: It would still lack the little red hearts and fluffy bunnies [17:18] we'll call it the bvowkies [17:18] sf: Quick! Say no! [17:18] it'll be valid for about 10 minutes tho :) [17:18] Pastel colours would be better than a black background, that really gets to my eyes [17:18] or corewin should display smilies and little hearts instead of dots and scares ;) [17:19] bvowk: it won't matter, they'll be off the hill soon. [17:19] What we need is a nicely balanced nano benchmark. [17:19] hmm ... I would suggest a new hill [17:19] nano isn't balanced tho [17:19] sth. between nano and tiny [17:19] Wilkies is a bit unbalanced actually (I think this was intentional) [17:20] baby! [17:20] and its big, so things can get kinda strangely out of whack [17:20] You think having a baby hill would attract more girls to Corewar! [17:20] hmm ... maybe we should sell contraceptives along with it ;-) [17:21] no, we want girls interested in corewars to reproduce! [17:21] we should sell fertility drugs labeled as contraceptives [17:22] Join: Roy joined #corewars [17:22] * Fluffy kicks Roy [17:22] Hi Roy [17:22] * bvowk slaps roy upside the head for the bot idea [17:22] * Fluffy kicks Roy [17:22] * Fluffy kicks Roy [17:22] Hi Roy! How are you? :-) [17:22] you kicked him to death [17:22] Strike! [17:22] * sf stop clicking Roy's google ads for the bot idea [17:23] sf/bvowk: What bot idea? [17:23] and waht does the bot do? [17:23] it just is. [17:24] * Roy died [17:25] * bvowk replaces roys damaged user serviceable parts and hits the reset [17:25] * sf cheers :) [17:25]