[07:52] Join: fiveop joined #corewars [07:54] Join: elkauka joined #corewars [08:32] MSG: Quit: leaving [08:34] Part: elkauka left #corewars [08:41] Join: cywhale joined #corewars [08:42] hi [08:44] hi [08:44] may i be of assistance? [08:44] Maybe. [08:45] Mike? [08:45] I'm a corewar beginner, just reading and reading all I can find about pmars/redcode... [08:45] Read about it in german "Spektrum der Wissenschaft" about 10-12 years ago [08:46] www.corewar.info is the one to visit [08:46] ... still fascinated, but haven't written a single line in redcode yet ;) [08:46] cywhale, Mike? [08:46] Mike=Michael - yes !? [08:47] mike hale? [08:47] datagram = ? [08:47] hai2u [08:47] ? [08:47] If you are mike hale, say so [08:47] And I will harass you on friday when I see oyu [08:48] No, sorry. Michael Weingaertner, Bavaria, germany ;) [08:49] Have been developing a php/mysql blog system for about 2 years now (private purposes + fun) [08:50] Now I'm thinking of starting a corewars blog. [08:50] Taking a nap now, take good care of cywhale, data [08:50] Writing about corewars, my experiences, common information, [08:51] ...maybe some redcode (hrm..have to develope a redcode syntax highlighting engine, should not be too difficult ;) ) [08:53] not 'maybe' [08:54] Does it make sense to start a blog like this ? [08:55] After visiting the corewar sites and following #corewars for ~1 year now I'm in doubt about visitors, interest... [08:57] Part: cywhale left #corewars [08:58] Join: cywhale joined #corewars [09:01] Part: cywhale left #corewars [09:03] :P [09:08] Looks like he doesn't get an answer... [09:08] hi fiveop [09:37] Join: cywhale joined #corewars [09:39] Part: cywhale left #corewars [09:58] Join: cywhale joined #corewars [09:59] Sorry, urgent telephone call + visit of a friend + baby [09:59] So what do you think about the blog idea ? [10:29] Part: cywhale left #corewars [11:31] Gonna put the round 1 rules up soon [13:09] Join: Roy joined #corewars [13:10] Woo! downloaded some tunnelling software, now I can chat again [13:11] hax! [13:12] but this software requires some password and shows annoying ads :( [13:12] Roy, How do I say "ballsacks" in german [13:12] Or dutch [13:12] Whichever works [13:12] stierenscrotum [13:12] sweet [13:12] is that really offensive or? [13:13] not really.. [13:13] Good [13:15] Well [13:15] Round 1 rules are up, all the rest of the site is up [13:15] My girl <33333333333 me [13:15] So now I can pass the fuck out [13:15] Roy, Peace out man [13:16] MSG: Remote host closed the connection [13:58] Join: Neogryzor joined #corewars [14:26] Join: sf joined #corewars [14:26] Hello [14:33] hi sf :) [14:35] Hi Neo :) [14:35] how is it going? [14:35] Ok, been busy [14:35] Today is a bank holiday [14:37] Have I missed anything interesting? [14:38] Datagram's spring Tournament round1 rules were shown [14:39] :) [14:49] Join: Nenad joined #corewars [14:49] hi [14:54] Hi Nenad [14:54] so, the round 1 rules are out.. [14:54] nothing out of the ordinary, it seems [14:55] and I'm probably going to losers brackets next round :) I'm paired up against Chip [14:56] I'm paired against Zul. I think he'll get his own back for CWSET [14:57] As always, nobody is happy with the draw. I'm paired with inversed and if i am luky and win, i'll meet Fizmo :( [14:58] I don't think there is anyone in the tournament who I would be confident of beating [14:58] Metcalf and Michal aren't participating? [14:58] :( [14:58] Zul acted unexpectedly in CWSET when i fought with him.. [14:59] no, they aren't... [14:59] or P. Kline? he had been sending warriors to 94nop recently. [14:59] :( [14:59] neither :( [15:00] well, every SET is difficult - if you make one mistake, you're out [15:01] I'm thinking of maybe organizing a mini corewar league in a few months, instead [15:01] yeah, most opponents are unpredictable. That's thrilling [15:03] MSG: Ping timeout: 252 seconds [15:06] hum.. [15:06] I'll be out for a while, see you [15:06] Nick Change: Neogryzor changed nick to Neo_out [15:19] MSG: Ping timeout: 252 seconds [15:31] Join: bvowk joined #corewars [15:31] hrm. [15:31] nenad lives. [15:33] :) [15:34] how's it going nenad? [15:34] hi Barkley [15:34] nice. [15:34] lot of work to do, exams coming up in a week or two [15:34] and I also live in a new state now [15:36] how about you? [15:36] what state do you life in? [15:37] still running over deers? [15:38] well, the union with Montenegro fell apart, which was the finishing blow for the breaking of the former Yugoslavia... so, Serbia will also be independent from now on [15:38] in other words, I live in an even smaller country now :) [15:38] nothing dramatic, though, it was expected for a while [15:39] hrm, can you walk across your entire country without stopping for a break yet? [15:40] although, you're a computer guy, that might be a meaningless test :) [15:41] :) [15:49] did you get your data-mining project working nenad? [15:49] I'd be interested in reading your results if you stayed with the idea we discussed [15:50] well, I'm doing it slowly, since the deadline was moved to september, and I've got 7 exams to take care of in june first. However, it is still on, and I hope to get some good results. :) It would've been already finished, but I had some computer breakdowns in the meantime [15:50] Ms. Fate certainly wasnt gentle with me this time.. X-Man is no problem but meeting Roy on next round is one [15:51] Miz: at least you're not going down in first round like me [15:51] (or perhaps I'll manage to surprise Chip somehow?) [15:51] Nenad: crap luck [15:51] it is a gamble, since the pspace isn't allowed [15:52] so, everyone has a chance, I guess [15:52] man.. my favorite raid cards just dropped to like half price.. [15:53] if you send the most beautiful scanner, an ordinary stone will beat the hell out of you. if you send a lppaper, scanners can shred you without a problem [15:53] bvowk: shopping spree! [15:54] if you send a beautiful evolved warrior, everything will shred you without a problem :) [16:05] :P [16:06] Join: elkauka joined #corewars [16:06] hi [16:06] heya [16:06] * elkauka is checking the rules for round 1 [16:07] hi elkauka [16:08] hum, been awhile since i've played cw. who's Heath Caldwell ? [16:10] a beginner [16:26] MSG: Ping timeout: 252 seconds [16:37] MSG: Quit: there is no place like 127.0.0.1 [16:58] Join: Fluffy joined #corewars [16:58] :) [17:02] Is it too late to beat up datagram for choosing Sascha as my opponent? ;-) [17:07] Join: Core29 joined #corewars [17:08] Hi Core29 [17:09] hi [17:12] Join: Roy joined #corewars [17:13] Hi Roy [17:13] Mizcu: Don't shout too hard you are going to meet me next round, Lachi is pretty strong, and the change of loosing is pretty big this round (RockPaperScissors) [17:14] :) (hi in Fluffylanguage) [17:14] Me not speek fluffie lang. [17:21] hey fluffy [17:22] :) [17:24] got a stable version of pycorewar? [17:24] Be patient, my dear friend ;-) [17:24] i cannot! [17:24] I must have it! [17:26] * Roy rattles datagram (yeah yeah, he's asleep probably...) [17:27] I could tell you a deadline for the MARS to be ready, bvowk. [17:27] 2016? [17:27] Altough I'm not sure, whether it will meet your requirements [17:27] Roy: No, a little bit earlier [17:27] fluffy: you could just make it stable and release it and I'd test it on all the machines I can and find your bugs [17:28] I have an amazing ability to break code in strange and impossible ways [17:28] I could, but then you must live with a bunch of bugs of the parser. [17:28] (ask he who must not be named how many times he had to tweak exhaust for me) [17:31] bvowk: I'll do my very best to speed released before the next earth destruction. [17:32] err ... you know, what I mean [17:32] bah. [17:32] YES! [17:32] a software package without users is just wanking! [17:32] release it! [17:32] bvowk: And you know how good that feels for him :P [17:32] (so I can get wanking on my code!) [17:33] I code PyCorewar just for fun. That's why I now set the official deadline for the next release. [17:34] heh [17:34] May 2015, 7:23:00 UTC [17:34] you're having fun teasing me with the code aren't you? [17:34] But there is a 99.9 % possibility, that I'll release it earlier [17:34] * bvowk goes to longbets and puts money on the fact that date will never happen [17:35] You'll owe a bottle of milk, if I'll release it earlier, bvowk ;-) [17:35] *owe me a [17:35] milk? [17:35] Yes, the favourite drink of your beloved Fluffy [17:35] where do you live again? [17:36] earth [17:36] heh [17:36] aren't you german? [17:36] yes [17:36] Milk is a code word [17:37] What does that have to do with milk? [17:37] For hot chocolade! [17:37] I'm interested in that too! [17:37] :P [17:37] No, I mean real nice milk [17:37] human? *ducks* [17:37] anyone read GEB here? [17:38] I know for a fact the germans make quite a number of tasty beers, as I have enjoyed quite a number of them. [17:38] so *WHY* would you want milk? [17:38] Because beer tastes like s**** [17:38] hrm. [17:38] right [17:39] I know, that I belong to a very tiny minority with that opinion [17:39] fiveop GEB? [17:39] fiveop: I've been reading and re-reading it for a long while now.. [17:39] nevermind, I know it :P [17:39] fiveop: it keeps me up at night tho, so I have to take it in small doses :) [17:40] I ask the same question all the time, keep forgetting what it stands for, and yes I've read it [17:40] But forgot all about it (was like 10 years ago) [17:40] roy: it's a book Godel Escher and Bach [17:41] yes yes, I know :P [17:41] * Roy remembered just in time [17:43] fiveop: why do you ask? [17:45] cause I started to read it yesterday [17:46] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_ordered_by_per_capita_beer_consumption [17:46] ... [17:47] that's about a third liter a day per capita in germany [17:47] I guess newborns inclusive ;P [17:49] 15th place :( not good [17:49] wow.. [17:49] * Roy has to drink more! [17:49] Canada ranks pretty low [17:49] you have to change that bvowk [17:49] fiveop: Do you also have statistics about milk consumption ;-) [17:49] I think I've likely already done my yearly quota [17:50] and we're just getting into BBQ season :) [17:50] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_ordered_by_per_capita_milk_consumption - no luck Fluffy :/ [17:50] nothing like a tasty home grown steak with a good beer [17:50] http://www.alternet.org/story/12002/ [17:50] see fluffy... milk is bad for you [17:51] living is usually a bad idea [17:51] do you marinate your steak with beer and onions, like it's done here? [17:51] hmm, with wine and herbs :S [17:53] I usually use soy sauce, garlic, rice vinegar, and lemon [17:53] and the 'fire' in a grill when fat drips into the hot coals gets put out with beer too [17:53] no milk? [17:54] nope [17:54] no, no milk.. cows are for beef.. not milk. [17:54] I wouldn't eat it ... [17:54] hmm [17:54] you wouldn't eat my steak? [17:54] I wouldn't eat a steak marinated with milk [17:54] I don't like steaks at all so [17:55] where do you live? I find people like beef less if its corn fed [17:55] I wouldn't mrinate a steak with milk, but I would drink milk and eat a steak [17:56] * Roy like the [17:56] * Roy likes the "Got Milk?" commecials [17:57] Don't know then [17:57] (damn this keyboard... I got different settings at work and home...annoying) [17:57] *them [17:57] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Th%C3%BCringer_sausage [17:57] That's what I prefere for bbq [17:57] http://www.lswon.com/wp-content/images/girls/gotmilk7pu.png [17:58] Yeees, I guess you like them [18:02] sausage eh? [18:06] * Roy likes Catalan sausages (special kind they sell in the local supermarket) [18:06] hm [18:09] my parents raise beef cattle, so steaks are really cheap and easy for me to acquire [18:10] Heh, just go to their place with a sharp knife [18:11] I think, that going to the local supermarket is easier [18:11] hm don't think so fluffy :P [18:12] heh [18:12] fiveop: Why? Where is the problem [18:12] ? [18:12] depens on where his parents life and where the next supermarket is [18:13] AND if he get's the meat in big enough supplies there is no need to go to the supermarket at all [18:13] There is always a huge supermarket near where you live. I've learned that from TV. [18:14] And TV always tells the whole truth! [18:14] did you ever life out of berlin? [18:14] live [18:14] ... [18:14] Heh, I was in a supermarket in Nice (France) and there where about 70 cashiers! [18:14] Oh, holy TV, be praised and and ignore fiveop for his blasphemy! [18:15] frances supermarkets are the biggest I've ever seen [18:15] that was a question Jens! [18:15] Roy: when's the ICC again? [18:15] fiveop: About 50 % of the time :) [18:15] (currently) [18:17] fiveop, look at the website, and click a ad while you're at it [18:18] Topic Change: Fluffy sets topic: Oh, hole TV, be praised! [18:18] damn [18:18] Topic Change: Fluffy sets topic: Oh, holy TV, be praised! [18:19] heh, much better Fluff [18:19] which topic [18:19] ah which website [18:19] ;) [18:19] the ICC2006 website..! :P [18:20] Topic Change: bvowk sets topic: Kill your TV. [18:20] url? [18:20] http://home.kabelfoon.nl/~mtr/roy/ICC2006/ [18:20] But I don't see a date there :) hehe [18:21] ps. click some adv. on the left, I'm trying google adsense! [18:21] lol [18:21] bvowk: You'll feel the wrath of the HOLY TV! [18:21] Roy: so there's no date yet? [18:21] Well, there was a date, but I kinda lost it [18:21] # A good dinner (prepared by me) <--- do I smell a contradiction [18:21] And I have to know how many people are comming and want to stay in that cheap 'hotel' thingy (place with beds) [18:22] Hehe fiveop, you don't want to miss THAT ;-) [18:22] with "hotel thingy" you mean something like formula one? [18:23] No, a old farm/camp house [18:23] Hehe, just noticed the date I picked for ICC-2006....first weekend in august! [18:23] But erhm, I'm in Turkey that week :-P [18:23] hm [18:23] lol [18:24] Might need some resheduling there [18:24] Topic Change: Roy sets topic: ICC2006 gets new date (soon) [18:24] Roy: You must be quick organizing the ICC. Remember the asteroid! [18:25] eeek! [18:25] Topic Change: fiveop sets topic: We shouldn't change the topic every two minutes [18:25] lol [18:25] But its hard to organise, nobody knows wheter they come or not :-S [18:25] Topic Change: fiveop sets topic: ICC2006 gets new date (soon) AND we shouldn't change the topic every two minutes [18:25] I would come! [18:26] And I could change the topic again! [18:26] Well I would try to find someone, with whom I can get a ride from berlin :P [18:26] * Roy has a car now, so I can pick people up! (car+free gas) [18:26] And no, I'm not picking you up in Berlin ;-) [18:26] You would get us in berlin? [18:26] :P [18:26] Roy: And if I would live in Canada, would you still pick my up? [18:27] Anywhere in Holland is fine, but not the border ;-) [18:27] holland's to be small [18:27] not passed the border [18:27] I wouldn't pick one up anywhere in germany [18:27] Well, gas is free for me, and in +/- 2 hours I can travel through the whole country [18:28] Roy: That's easy, just take a fast enough airplane and you can travel through (almost) every country in 2 hours [18:28] by the way: How would you do that in -2 hours? [18:28] But that isn't free (as far as I know) [18:29] Do you posses a time traveling machine? [18:29] Roy: germany is 8.6 times greater then holland [18:29] Hehe I know, and Berlin is almost at the opposit end :P [18:29] why is gas free for you? [18:29] Ilmenau would do for me :P [18:29] cause he's got a generous boos [18:30] boss [18:30] I see [18:30] Yeah :) [18:30] I might make Frankfurt without having to stop for gas in another country :P [18:31] Topic Change: Fluffy sets topic: koth.org - corewar.info - corewar.co.uk [18:31] Maybe even more, my range is about 800km, divided by two [18:31] 400km land inwards [18:32] today's karaoke party [18:32] And I'll go there .... I hope I won't have to sing anything [18:33] Hmm, I might make Ilmenau with one tank..! [18:33] I could visit you for free ;-) [18:33] you have a tank? ;-) [18:34] Yes, called a Clio [18:34] hehe [18:35] My tank: http://www.carbodydesign.com/production-cars/2005-07-19-renault-clio-preview/2006%20Renault%20Clio%201.jpg [18:36] You only have a JPEG of your tank? [18:36] And a mpg [18:36] How much did you pay? [18:36] Nothing [18:37] That's good then, because you shouldn't pay for a virtual car [18:38] My datagram-tournament-warrior is ready! [18:39] an imp? [18:39] 2640 impring! [18:41] :) [18:42] Also a 6point impring is possible (hint) [18:42] And a 5point [18:42] and 4.. [18:43] Even 3, and 2! [18:44] I've just reread the round 1 rules [18:44] The deadline is kind of fuzzy [18:44] why..? [18:44] datagram: You should add a time to the deadline, like 0:00 UTC [18:45] 0:00 ECT (better :P) [18:45] huh? [18:45] how about using the unix epoch [18:46] I meant CET :P [18:46] We are in CEST! [18:47] yes! [18:47] CEST is about +2 hours UTC [18:48] UTC... hrm, I'm still used at GMT :) [18:48] Because there is a tiny difference between GMT and UTC [18:49] Atomic/Astronomic time, I know [18:50] * Roy goes downstairs in a epic hunt for food [18:51] Battling dangerous MOMsters and candybar wrappings [18:51] * Fluffy removes all food from Roy's "downstairs" [19:12] * Roy found chocolate [19:12] Ok, going to play some more Shenmue now, ciao [19:12] * Roy waves [19:13] Nick Change: Roy changed nick to RoyAWAY [19:31] MSG: Quit: leaving [19:38] Join: elkauka joined #corewars [19:50] MSG: Quit: there is no place like 127.0.0.1 [20:52] Join: pak21 joined #corewars [20:53] I return [20:53] MSG: Client Quit [20:55] Join: pak21 joined #corewars [21:15] MSG: Quit: Trillian (http://www.ceruleanstudios.com [22:03] MSG: [22:06] MSG: Quit: n8 [22:36] Join: RYates joined #corewars [22:36] hi :) [22:38] got a question about MICE [22:38] "each copy of the original MICE program carries with it a suicide option; it continually checks on whether its first instruction (which is a data statement consisting of 0 alone) is still zero. If it is not, MICE allows execution to proceed to a (non-executable) data statement and dies quietly rather than lose its soul to a tiny fiend." [22:38] ... why? [22:39] Nick Change: RoyAWAY changed nick to Roy [22:39] does comitting suicide result in a draw instead of a loss? [22:39] No, but it has multible copies, so the others will still lve [22:40] the biggest threat to a 'replicator' (like MICE) is being stunned (overrun with spl instructions) [22:40] so it does it to avoid wasting cycles on a corrupt copy? [22:40] this will cause the paper/replicator to stop, making it very vulnarable to a clear [22:41] With the suicide it will notice the paper isn't correct (like a checksum thingy) and will die instead of get stunned, this will leave the other copies running at higher speed [22:42] Ok, sorry I can't help anymore, I really need to get some sleep! [22:42] MSG: