[03:14] Join: heath joined #corewars [03:25] Is it hot in here, or am I just schweatin'? [03:41] just u cause im cool [03:41] in more ways then one [05:10] MSG: Read error: Operation timed out [05:10] Join: johnkw joined #corewars [06:45] Running matches now [06:53] Join: Nenad joined #corewars [06:54] Nenad, [06:55] hi datagram [06:55] Nenad, Do you want to know your results? [06:55] sure [06:55] I just finished your match [06:55] I lost [06:56] Nenad [W/L/T/S] 2.8% 30.4% 66.8% 75.2pts [06:56] Chip [W/L/T/S] 30.4% 2.8% 66.8% 158pts [06:56] :) I knew it. what did Chip send? [06:57] 6 process paper [06:58] :) since I usually send scanners and oneshots, I didn't expect that :) However, this round was a gamble anyway [06:58] Well, no worries [06:58] who am I up against in the losers brackets? [06:58] Losers bracket can sent you to 1st place, too [06:58] You are the only match I've run so far... [06:59] Technically elkauka has 2 minutes left to submit something... [06:59] If he doesn't, you'll play vs him [07:01] Annd, its midnight [07:34] * Nenad waves [07:34] MSG: [08:46] Whoo. [08:46] SF vs Zul was very close [08:46] Had to run a -P match [08:50] Join: fiveop joined #corewars [09:28] Join: Roy joined #corewars [09:41] Join: Mizcu joined #corewars [10:11] ok guys, I just decided I need a new desktop, any suggestions on what I should have in it? (budget is about 1200/1500 euro) [10:11] Enough space for keyboard and pc-screen, bottle of coke [10:11] well, jokes aside [10:12] Have no idea because i dont know about the price-level of NL [10:13] AMD has best price/speed, and with it you probably want nforce4 -motherboard [10:21] The problem is, I don't know either :) [10:21] But google to the rescue! [10:22] I'm not so sure what my best option is, building the machine myself or just being a pc from a supermarket action (they have that here all the time, nice systems that they sell in massive amounts very cheap) [10:32] IMO (especially as a Linux user), the advantage of building a machine yourself is that you know exactly which components are in it (and whether they'll work with your OS of choice) [10:35] Well, thats a pro, but I'm probably going to use it for gaming and not install linux :) so it doesn't really matter upfront what parts are in.. [10:41] MSG: [11:07] * Roy is thinking about AMD X2 4200 (good price/speed ratio) [11:15] MSG: Read error: Connection reset by peer [11:36] Join: Mizcu joined #corewars [12:07] Join: Fluffy joined #corewars [12:07] :) [12:07] . [12:09] * Fluffy kicks datagram [12:09] datagram: RESULTS! [12:09] Topic Change: Fluffy sets topic: RESULTS! RESULTS! RESULTS! [12:10] Topic Change: Mizcu sets topic: GIVE US RESULTS! RESULTS! RESULTS! [12:11] Mizcu: I think, that my topic could be understood easily enough [12:11] :) [12:11] Or not [12:11] Join: sascha joined #corewars [12:12] hopa [12:12] Hi sascha [12:23] MSG: Quit: leaving [12:23] Part: sascha left #corewars [12:24] Join: Fluffy joined #corewars [12:26] Join: stranger joined #corewars [12:33] MSG: Remote host closed the connection [13:20] Join: Roy joined #corewars [13:21] * Roy is curious too [13:27] Hi Roy! [13:27] * Fluffy releases a bunch of snakes in datagram's room [13:29] That'll wake him ;-) [13:29] I really hope so [13:35] Seems as if it didn't work :( [13:36] Hrm, you used poisinous snakes! He's out cold.. [13:38] Stupid me! [13:39] * Roy gives datagram a shot of antidote [14:02] Probably too late, Roy :( [14:08] MSG: Quit: Gotsta get ready for work. [14:08] Then I declare myself as winner! [14:13] No, Roy, you can't do that. Only I have the ability and ther permisson to do it. [14:13] And of course I declare myself as THE winner! [14:16] we can both win this round and look for a new host ;-) [14:18] I won't even mind losing this round, the losers-detour might be easier :) [14:19] hehe ... good idea [14:20] and of course I wouldn't mind using all means to win ;-) [14:20] Nick Change: Fluffy changed nick to dadagram [14:21] Hi everybody! Finally I'm back with all the results. [14:21] Sascha vs. Fluffy [14:21] Sascha: 3.0 (W 1.0, L 99.0, T 0.0) [14:22] Fluffy: 297.0 (W 99.0, L 1.0, T 0.0) [14:22] Unfortunately I've deleted all the other submissions. [14:22] Please remail them and I'll publish the results as soon as I can. [14:24] MSG: Quit: leaving [14:24] Noo! What email adres? :P [14:25] Join: Fluffy joined #corewars [14:25] Hey, I've won. Nice :) [14:26] Hrmm, I'm selecting the stuff for my pc, and I come to 1121 euros (only the pc, no screen/mouse/keyboard etc_ [14:28] And what do you intend to buy? [14:28] Do you build your own PC? [14:29] (or do you just buy it at the local megasuppastore ;-) [14:31] Well, I now looked everything up on a website and they put it together for 50 euro (pretty cheap) I think its one of the cheapest stores around (most people use it here) [14:32] hmm ... that probably depends on what you buy [14:32] I usually come cheaper, if I buy only the components and assemble everything myself [14:32] Its a AMD X2 4200 with DFI LANparty UT nF4 mobo and 1Gb Mem and 160GB HD and XFX GeForce 7600GT XXX [14:33] hmm ... I don't know that board [14:33] Hmm, the store is called Alternate, and I think they are in germany too [14:33] Yes, I know Alternate, but I don't use it, because I once had problems with them [14:33] *it [14:34] Almost every geek around here orders stuff there :) [14:34] I have some local small vendors and buy everything there. [14:34] And thats cheaper? [14:34] Yes :) [14:35] or the price difference is very small [14:35] Well, the problem is I'm not so up-to-date with hardware stuff, haven't bought a desktop pc in 6 years [14:35] and I'm quite willing to pay that for the service [14:35] So I have no idea what to use with what, and the alternate website warns it when I do it wrong ;-) but now I know what I want [14:35] hehe, that's a problem :) [14:36] Now I can shop for cheaper stuff and put it together myself! [14:38] Why do you want to have the AMD X2? Do you have any special plans to use it? [14:39] Well, I can use the duo core stuff for a couple of things, like optimizing and browsing and other stuff [14:39] And its pretty good when running heavy games [14:39] Its easy in Finland, theres a very good pricewatch-page, and there are few retailers that sell stuff pretty much straight from importer, and other companies have to keep prices down [14:40] Mizcu: Lucky you :) [14:40] Roy: I have no experience with the current games and their requirements [14:40] straight from importer = order is placed on the importers webpage, and they send it, giving small cut to the store. Stores only work for recommendations and building the stuff. [14:41] Technically it is illegal for importer to sell stuff straight, but they use that method as loophole [14:42] Thats a nice method, there are a lot of pricecompare websites here too, now checking them [14:42] For example the mobo, I can get it only 5 euro cheaper, but then I need to travel half the Netherlands :-S [14:43] Roy: First I would make list of all components and make sure, that there are no problems with them (current driver problems, ...) [14:44] Well, thats the good point from Alternate, they check a lot (everything?) and even give hints about the heat etc [14:44] For example with the AMD X2 they said: You need at least three case fans with the GeForce in there too [14:45] err.. two, but preferably three [14:46] And your puter sounds like a jet [14:46] Heh, I don't really give a *beep* about sound, I don't understand all the fuzz [14:47] Just increase the volume a little of the speakers! [14:48] Constant humming is not bad, but HD's or bad bearings squealing is really annoying [14:48] Mizcu: Constant silence is better :) [14:49] My laptop is king of noise, can only get better [14:49] Im not spending huge amounts of dough just to get some little sound down [14:49] Join: sf joined #corewars [14:49] Hello [14:49] * Roy neither [14:49] Results? [14:49] Hi sf [14:49] No [14:49] :( [14:50] Hi sf [14:50] Hi Roy [14:50] Hi Fluff [14:52] CRE seems to be generating some good stuff [14:54] What did everyone enter? [14:55] Join: sascha joined #corewars [14:56] What did you enter? :) [14:56] Results ? [14:56] I entered Myrmidon with some minor changes [14:56] No results yet, only fluffys imagination [14:56] seems CRE certainly doesnt weight the instructions used on evolving [14:57] let me guess...his warrior is so good that it warps directly to the finals ! [14:57] Hi Sascha [14:57] I entered a paper [14:57] Good evenung sf [14:57] sascha: of course :) [14:57] In fact it is exactly the same paper which beat Zul in CWSET2005 :) [14:57] I entered dodger-clear [14:58] because i hope that fluffy will send a paper [14:58] lol sf, that would really hurt [14:58] And what did fluffy enter..? :o [14:59] I didn't have a computer handy for testing [14:59] Roy: I've taken other peoples code [14:59] Digital Rain (by inversed) + a quickscanner :) [14:59] Ah yes, you told me :P [14:59] I optimized the constants on my slide rule :P [15:00] I have no idea what LAchi will submit.. probably a oneshot or something, so I used a bombing oneshot [15:01] so when can we expect the result..i hope for a more complicated round next time,.. and of cource i hope for a win. [15:01] maybe we should all exchange our warriors and run the fights ourselves [15:01] :) [15:01] okay, gimme your warrior i will run the fights ;-) [15:01] one moment [15:02] rounds ? -F ? [15:05] sascha: I've sent my warrior. [15:06] Try, say 500 rounds and use -P, if the scores are close [15:06] :) [15:06] http://corewar.atspace.com/chrysal.red [15:06] hey, beside...is there any linux freak arround here which can tell me where is the best place to install a "hdparm -y /dev/hdb" in the boot scripts..i have trieb boot.local, but the disk will start again after 5 seconds...where is the best place for that ? [15:06] o.k, one moment [15:08] hey, jens i have seriouor coding trouble here..can you send it as *.zip ? [15:08] k [15:10] done [15:10] If you still have theses weired problems, you send you warrior to me as well :) [15:11] i am seeing a little development in CRE.. [15:12] ohh, must run -P ! [15:12] But its missing a benchmark.. [15:12] sascha: oha [15:13] * sf wonders when Datagram will be able to publish the results :) [15:13] We'll make our own results :) [15:13] congrats Fluffy [15:13] Sinnloser Name by Sascha Zapf scores 20704 [15:13] Inconvenience by Jens Gutzeit scores 23365 [15:13] Results: 6151 7038 2251 [15:14] :) :( [15:14] How does your warrior score against mine? [15:14] don't know ! [15:14] It probably crushes it [15:14] chrystal.red ? [15:16] o.k -p against chrystal is running [15:17] oh, nice results [15:17] Sinnloser Name by Sascha Zapf scores 2610 [15:17] Chrysalid by S.Fernandes scores 41220 [15:17] Results: 40 12910 2490 [15:17] ouch [15:17] pwned [15:18] :) [15:18] time to annouce my retirement.. [15:18] Very unexpected [15:18] Ohw, test mine too :) [15:18] I'll upload it [15:18] sascha: and against mine? [15:18] still running [15:18] k [15:18] Anyone going to run a round-robin? [15:19] didnt have mts here ! sorry [15:19] I could do it, if I had the warriors [15:19] send all warriors to :) [15:19] mine is on the way [15:21] http://www.redcode.nl/drop.red [15:21] hmm, sf and fluffys fighinmg a long time...seems to be much ties ! [15:22] jens for president. [15:22] Chrysalid by S.Fernandes scores 14867 [15:22] Inconvenience by Jens Gutzeit scores 24257 [15:22] Results: 2557 5687 7196 [15:23] Join: Nenad joined #corewars [15:23] hi [15:23] hi Nenad [15:23] i hope that datagramm also publish results of a round robin with all entrys [15:23] if he doesn't lose them all again :) [15:24] Now do my warrior against something :-) [15:24] Roy: one mo :) [15:26] brb then [15:26] So I get to play Fluff or Sascha next turn [15:26] Hi Nenad [15:26] Drop and listen by Roy van Rijn scores 27154 [15:26] Inconvenience by Jens Gutzeit scores 18199 [15:26] Results: 8729 5744 967 [15:26] sorry jens [15:26] hehe [15:27] Join: Core29 joined #corewars [15:28] for once, I decided not to send a scanner or a oneshot (sent a sai) and Chip submitted a paper... (sigh) ... and so I got crushed [15:28] Hi Core29 [15:28] :( [15:29] what a pity..chip seems to have very lucky hands ! [15:29] i'm afraid for the day he will start again to send warrior to the tiny or 94nop ;-) [15:29] Drop and listen by Roy van Rijn scores 14877 [15:29] Chrysalid by S.Fernandes scores 24213 [15:29] Results: 2549 5661 7230 [15:29] congrat sf ! [15:30] :) [15:30] But will it beat Zuls? :/ [15:30] Join: Neo_away joined #corewars [15:30] Join: inversed joined #corewars [15:31] woot, more ppl [15:31] Nick Change: Neo_away changed nick to Neogryzor [15:31] I Neo [15:31] wow, is there a meeting? [15:31] Hi Inversed [15:31] Hi [15:31] hi sf, inversed, Mizcu, Roy, Sascha... all :) [15:32] Hello Neo [15:32] Datagram, I've remailed you my warrior [15:32] Hi inversed [15:32] hi inversed, Neo [15:32] hmm, did he lose warriors ? [15:32] inversed: datagram seems to be dead at the moment [15:32] did he? [15:33] Please remail them and I'll publish the results as soon as I can. [15:33] should we all resend our entrys ? [15:33] erm... what if i optimize it a bit and send then? [15:34] we'll send a grave curse upon you [15:34] dadagram or datagram? [15:34] hehe ;-) [15:34] hmm, why he didn't annouce that in r.g.cw.. [15:35] Nick Change: Fluffy changed nick to dadagram [15:35] Hey, Jens..you're cheater ... lol [15:35] :) [15:36] Nick Change: Neogryzor changed nick to Flufly [15:36] :P [15:37] * sf kicks Flufly and Fluff [15:38] Nick Change: sascha changed nick to Jens [15:38] O.k boys..i'll give up...congrat to sascha. [15:38] * sf kicks Flufly, Fluff and Jens [15:38] Nick Change: Jens changed nick to Sascha [15:38] O.K thanks Jens... [15:39] Nick Change: Sascha changed nick to fatalc [15:39] Nick Change: Nenad changed nick to Fizmo [15:39] Ok. Sascha, in the next rounds i will use a simple stone with ssd clear....good luck# [15:39] Nick Change: fatalc changed nick to Sascha [15:40] Nice..thanks a lot...that could help [15:40] Nick Change: Fizmo changed nick to Nenad [15:40] 1. Sinnloser Name by Sascha Zapf [15:40] 209.10000 (W 37.80000 %, L 52.10000 %, T 10.10000 %) [15:40] 2. Something quick by Mizcu [15:40] 184.90000 (W 19.90000 %, L 55.00000 %, T 25.10000 %) [15:40] 3. Drop and listen by Roy van Rijn [15:40] 173.40000 (W 50.50000 %, L 34.50000 %, T 15.00000 %) [15:40] 4. Chrysalid by S.Fernandes [15:40] 167.30000 (W 37.90000 %, L 18.70000 %, T 43.40000 %) [15:40] 5. Inconvenience by Jens Gutzeit [15:40] 161.80000 (W 47.60000 %, L 33.40000 %, T 19.00000 %) [15:40] That's the results (250 rounds) without selffights [15:41] But i don't feel better....best of that bunch of that entry but losing this round.. [15:41] But did you like the name, Fluffy ? [15:43] Hrm, right in the middle.. [15:43] hey, there is a mistake....5 is the best of all....did you reverse the output ? [15:43] Is mixed up alright... [15:43] FluFF: can you test my entry too? [15:44] Talking to me? [15:44] yes, email the entry to [15:44] Sascha: No mistake, you are really the first [15:44] 3 and 5 have the highest score (I think) and 1 loses :-S [15:44] W 37 and L 52... how can that be winning? [15:44] Do you reverse wins and losses? [15:44] Did I [15:44] against w47 from Incon... [15:44] ? [15:44] let's see [15:45] Sinnloser Name vs. Something quick [15:45] 204.80000 (W 65.60000 %, L 26.40000 %, T 8.00000 %) [15:45] Drop and listen vs. Something quick [15:45] 240.00000 (W 77.20000 %, L 14.40000 %, T 8.40000 %) [15:45] Drop and listen vs. Sinnloser Name [15:45] 152.00000 (W 50.00000 %, L 48.00000 %, T 2.00000 %) [15:45] Chrysalid vs. Something quick [15:45] 104.40000 (W 10.40000 %, L 16.40000 %, T 73.20000 %) [15:45] Chrysalid vs. Sinnloser Name [15:45] 269.20000 (W 84.80000 %, L 0.40000 %, T 14.80000 %) [15:45] Chrysalid vs. Drop and listen [15:45] 159.20000 (W 38.80000 %, L 18.40000 %, T 42.80000 %) [15:45] Inconvenience vs. Something quick [15:45] 211.20000 (W 66.80000 %, L 22.40000 %, T 10.80000 %) [15:45] Inconvenience vs. Sinnloser Name [15:45] 157.20000 (W 47.20000 %, L 37.20000 %, T 15.60000 %) [15:45] Inconvenience vs. Drop and listen [15:45] 117.20000 (W 36.80000 %, L 56.40000 %, T 6.80000 %) [15:45] Inconvenience vs. Chrysalid [15:45] 161.60000 (W 39.60000 %, L 17.60000 %, T 42.80000 %) [15:46] Does anybody spot errors? [15:46] Yeah!! Sinnloser only won one match and lost all the others.. how can it be first!? [15:46] (lost one with 80%..!) [15:46] yes..seems you flipped w and l before calculate....my entry is the qworst overall [15:46] ok, I'll check [15:47] FluFF: mailed you [15:47] inversed: got it [15:51] Fluffy: results! [15:51] First I have to find the bug [15:52] datagram/fluffy, hurry :P [15:52] yes, yes [15:53] found bug [15:55] almost ready :) [15:55] You should be done by bow [15:55] bow equ now [15:55] sf: Yes, but you can buy me a faster computer and then you'll get the results sooner :) [15:56] hehe ... stupid me [15:57] with or without selffights? [15:57] My vote goes for no selffights [15:57] Do both :) [15:57] Whatever you like, do without [15:58] 1. Odd Warfare by inversed [15:58] 179.76000 (W 45.04000 %, L 10.32000 %, T 44.64000 %) [15:58] 2. Drop and listen by Roy van Rijn [15:58] 153.44000 (W 45.68000 %, L 37.92000 %, T 16.40000 %) [15:58] 3. Inconvenience by Jens Gutzeit [15:58] Without == faster ;-) [15:58] 144.88000 (W 38.40000 %, L 31.92000 %, T 29.68000 %) [15:58] 4. Chrysalid by S.Fernandes [15:58] 137.52000 (W 29.36000 %, L 21.20000 %, T 49.44000 %) [15:58] 5. Sinnloser Name by Sascha Zapf [15:58] 107.84000 (W 32.24000 %, L 56.64000 %, T 11.12000 %) [15:58] 6. Something quick by Mizcu [15:58] 85.36000 (W 18.08000 %, L 50.80000 %, T 31.12000 %) [15:58] That's without selffights [15:58] 250 rounds [15:58] Ahh thats better, what kind of warrior did you have inversed? [15:58] damn, thats a lot of losses [15:58] jmp bomber / imp spiral [15:59] that beats all those papers [15:59] Nice, I think a lot of people made oneshots/papers and dodgers (so you win) [15:59] what a shame...have to go...bye [15:59] Part: Sascha left #corewars [15:59] * Fluffy waves [15:59] * sf waves [15:59] * Nenad waves to sascha [15:59] * Flufly waves [15:59] I'm rerunning now the fights with 1000 rounds [15:59] * Fluffy kicks Flufly [15:59] should i mail you mine? [16:00] of course [16:00] ok. Erm... what's your mail address? [16:00] [16:00] You'll know your result then Neo/Inversed :) [16:01] hehe ... it would be fun, if Sascha's warrior would become better and better with more warriors :) [16:01] Mine seems to be getting worse. [16:02] We'll see [16:02] I wait now for your mail, Flufly [16:02] And I wasn't joking about optimizing the constants on a slide rule ;) [16:02] I blame my lack of warrior-fitness on the fact that i read the whole week for entering-exams [16:02] (Which were today and went alright) [16:03] maybe I should publish only wrong results [16:03] Don't publish the individual results :) [16:03] Flufly: mail? [16:03] * Roy kicks Flufly and Fluffy and datagram and strays of to find food [16:03] * Nenad has to go [16:03] * Nenad waves [16:03] Don't even be tempted to look at the individual results [16:03] * sf waves [16:04] MSG: [16:04] it took 650 rounds of evolving for CRE to choke my 'puter, either memoryleak or better warriors [16:04] * Flufly waves to Nenad [16:04] Flufly: got mail [16:04] hrm. [16:04] You can give it a proper name if you want :) [16:04] * bvowk slices fluffy into steaks [16:05] I haven't actually looked at cre yet.. [16:05] I downloaded the code, and I untarred it.. [16:05] Hi bvowk [16:05] but I didn't look. [16:05] Flufly: It is now R1 paper 1 [16:06] Hi Bvowk [16:06] * Fluffy is running now the fights with 500 rounds [16:06] how you doing sf? [16:06] Flufly: Who's your opponent? [16:06] inversed [16:07] R1 paper 1 vs. Drop and listen [16:07] 22.40000 (W 6.20000 %, L 90.00000 %, T 3.80000 %) [16:07] hehe [16:07] ... [16:07] But that's not inversed's warrior [16:08] Flufly/inversed: Do you want your results? [16:08] YES [16:08] ok, i know i'll loose [16:09] I see [16:09] 1. Odd Warfare by inversed [16:09] 179.46667 (W 44.53333 %, L 9.60000 %, T 45.86667 %) [16:09] 2. Drop and listen by Roy van Rijn [16:09] 167.50000 (W 51.20000 %, L 34.90000 %, T 13.90000 %) [16:09] 3. Inconvenience by Jens Gutzeit [16:09] 136.60000 (W 32.76667 %, L 28.93333 %, T 38.30000 %) [16:09] 4. Chrysalid by S.Fernandes [16:09] 132.23333 (W 24.83333 %, L 17.43333 %, T 57.73333 %) [16:09] 5. Sinnloser Name by Sascha Zapf [16:09] 123.26667 (W 37.43333 %, L 51.60000 %, T 10.96667 %) [16:09] 6. R1 paper 1 by G.Labarga [16:09]