[00:01] See you guys later. [00:01] Time to go home. [00:02] MSG: Quit: leaving [00:06] MSG: Ping timeout: 252 seconds [02:02] Join: johnkw joined #corewars [05:20] Join: fiveop joined #corewars [06:44] Join: Mizcu joined #corewars [07:52] MSG: Ping timeout: 252 seconds [07:52] Join: fiveop joined #corewars [09:37] Join: Fluffy joined #corewars [09:37] :) [09:41] Evening [09:41] Hi datagram! [09:42] Have you already posted the results and the rules for the next round? [09:42] Not yet [09:42] Silent Hill 1 has stolen my night : ) [09:42] :( [09:42] The results are in the logs, though [09:42] Yes, I've read them, but yesterday we run the fights ourselves [09:43] Heh [09:46] Join: Core29 joined #corewars [09:47] Hi Core29 [09:47] hey [09:47] Hey Roy [09:49] huh? where? [09:56] core is roy [09:57] Are you sure? His IP belongs to the German Telecom. [09:58] *shrug* [10:04] Core29, Who be you!? [10:04] Fluffy, That should do the trick [10:05] what? huh? [10:05] no, I am *not* Roy... :-) [10:06] Lies, all lies! [10:06] :-D [10:06] Isn't Roy a dutch guy? [10:08] Roy's some newb we know [10:08] Who totally stinks at corewar [10:08] hehe [10:08] I heard he smells, too [10:08] huh? [10:08] no, I think this is not true... [10:08] Wrong universe? [10:08] how can I prove I am not him? [10:09] You can't [10:09] i guess.. [10:09] I'm a guy from Germany, 30 yo, knowing cw from my childhood and I never find enough time to get started with it again... [10:10] No, you can't proove, that you are you either :) [10:10] but now I'v got a short holiday - may be-- [10:10] no, I can't [10:10] you have to believe... [10:10] I don't believe [10:11] may be, Roy joins later, when I'm still here [10:11] That wouldn't change anything [10:11] Join: Core29_ joined #corewars [10:12] 24hour-disconnect [10:13] I don't know why this happens sometimes - when I automatically reconnect, I get a new user-name - and the old "Core29" is still there [10:13] mhm [10:14] Because your old IP is still valid and the IRC server must wait until it no longer get a valid response from that IP [10:14] It has to timeout [10:14] (ok, that's shorter :) [10:14] ah, so after the timeout the old name will vanish? [10:15] yes [10:15] i see [10:15] Give it like 4-5 minutes [10:15] MSG: Ping timeout: 252 seconds [10:15] and then you can change your nick with "/nick whatever" [10:15] 260-300 seconds or so usually does it [10:15] : ) [10:15] does this /nick-thing also work with my trillian-irc-client? I have to check that [10:16] just try it [10:16] Nick Change: Core29_ changed nick to Core30 [10:16] ah! [10:16] cool [10:17] Core30: http://www.ircfibel.de/ [10:17] It's so sad, since I've began to work I never find time to really get into hobby things like cw..or what to do with irc. Always wnated to learn php, too... [10:17] thanks! [10:18] I guess I have to make a year-long holiday... [10:23] If you don't have that much time, just start to evolve your warriors :) [10:26] Is this really faster? I have to understand the "normal" corewars first, before I try this, I think? [10:26] No, you don't have to understand anything. Take an evolver, set the parameters and wait for sth. good to evolve. [10:27] bvowk claims to have almost no understand of Redcode, but sends nontheless good warriors to nano [10:27] *understanding [10:27] sounds not bad... [10:27] ...afk for a couple of minutes...have to eat something :-) [10:28] and since nano is so "small", you get results pretty fast [10:29] Fluffy, He doesn't _want_ an understand, so that he doesn't taint the results [10:29] understanding* [10:30] All you have to do is to stay away from your computer(s) as soon as the evolver has started (whether you know Redcode or not ;-) [11:30] my mother send me a package, which plays a 'song' when it's opened [11:30] omg ;) [13:11] Join: fiveop_ joined #corewars [13:13] MSG: Read error: Operation timed out [14:00] Join: fiveop joined #corewars [14:01] MSG: Ping timeout: 252 seconds [14:13] MSG: Quit: humhum [14:39] Join: fiveop joined #corewars [15:58] Join: sf joined #corewars [15:58] * sf kicks bvowk [15:58] hehe [15:58] Hi sf! [15:59] What has bvowk done to you? [16:00] Nothing [16:00] Hi Fluffy [16:01] Ok, that's a good reason :) [16:16] hrm. [16:17] Hey, bvowk. [16:18] whats up sf? [16:18] MSG: Read error: Operation timed out [16:19] Hi Bvowky [16:20] bvowk: I'm trying to write a simple evolver. Which "rules" do you usually use to replace the "worst" warriors? [16:20] I work until I make a warrior thats better than the worst I have [16:20] thats pretty much it :) [16:20] hmm ... sounds simple [16:20] I was playing with a genetic programming approach to redcode building last night.. [16:21] and? [16:21] with some of koza's code.. [16:21] it was really interesting, although, the depth of my recode programs had to stay exactly constant, so most of kozas magic was lost on them [16:23] Stupid evolver! [16:23] How long does it usually take to get "acceptable" warriors on one computer? [16:24] I don't want to tell you, cause I already feel stupid enough about it. [16:24] why? [16:24] Does it take that long? [16:24] and the sad part was I was just calling an external exhaust, I didn't even have embedded FFI going on! [16:25] no! its really short! [16:25] its like poof! here's a warrior that isn't half bad! [16:25] my best warrior so far: [16:25] JMP.AB # 19, * 10 [16:25] MOV.I { 36, @ 11 [16:25] START MUL.F * -25, $ 33 [16:25] SPL.F # 28, @ 12 [16:25] JMN.BA { 17, # 24 [16:25] :( [16:28] thats it!? [16:28] well, you might as well just pack up and go home! [16:28] hehe [16:28] here, let me help! :) [16:30] Fluffy: weight the use of instructions if you want competitive fast [16:31] yeah, just be aware, that your weightings will utterly determine what you're going to get.. [16:31] Hmm ... seems to be getting better: [16:31] SPL.B # -33, @ 24 [16:31] START SPL.F # -15, * -10 [16:31] SUB.BA * -16, < -10 [16:31] MOV.BA $ 24, * -17 [16:31] SPL.F # -22, $ 1 [16:32] you've got to understand that and use it, or you'll be disappointed about the lack of variety [16:34] And the weights I determine from the frequency of the instructions of current warriors? [16:34] determine the frequency yourself [16:35] Will used the frequency from Koen [16:36] yeah, but keep in mind that human coded != machine coded, so using human coded weights isn't always a great idea because they cannot get the same level of integration [16:42] I've modified the evolver a little bit. Probably it will create the stupid warriors ;-) [16:45] Like father like son [16:45] * Mizcu hides [16:45] No, that's the truth :) [16:46] man, I only make it into the top 30 on the nano hall of fam. [16:46] tragic. [16:46] hmm ... maybe you should add more computers, which run your evolver ;-) [16:47] I'm just noticing, that the scores of the warriors make a huge jump upwards [16:47] I've tried that :) [16:47] yeah, evolution isn't a nice neat ramp up.. [16:47] its periodic huge leaps [16:47] k [16:47] if you're taking little steps up, you're not doing it right :) [16:48] And when do you decide to finish evolution and send the warriors to the hill? [16:48] whenever I feel like it [16:48] if it scores good enough against an external benchmark? [16:49] I don't let scores stop me! [16:50] hey, what happend ot the nano hill? A new koth :) [16:50] yeah.. [16:50] loren has a new evolver and is kicking ass [16:51] Downloading it now ... [16:54] hmm [16:54] Join: Fizmo joined #corewars [16:54] hi [16:54] hi Fiz [16:54] Hi Fizmo :) [16:54] Hi Miz [16:54] bvowk: hehe ... my evolver just found continouly launched imps :) [16:55] Hi Flu [16:55] Hi Fizmo [16:55] Hi sf [16:55] fluffy: I'm sorry! [16:55] bvowk: why? Is that a problem? [16:56] time to go [16:57] * Fluffy waves [16:57] * Fizmo waves to sf [16:58] * sf waves [16:58] fluffy: because imps are hard to convince the pool they're not effective [17:01] Just send a test warrior. It will probably the worst warrior ever [17:02] hmm .. 89 after 35 rounds :( [17:04] I sent a 21 once.. [17:04] hehe ... that's worse than an imp [17:05] my fmars was broken by a gcc/library upgrade.. [17:05] so it gave me random results.. [17:05] I was like *WTF*?! [17:07] I now just wait another 35 round and try again [17:08] MSG: Quit: I was using TinyIRC! Visit http://www.tinyirc.net/ for more information. [17:08] Fluffy: what you sent for Round 1 [17:08] I've stolen other people's redcode [17:09] too lazy to read the log, hehehe [17:09] I've taken inversed's Digital Rain and added a quickscanner [17:09] oh, you didn't mentioned what you used? [17:09] ? [17:09] I did [17:09] In any case it was quite close against Sascha [17:10] We both scored near 150 against each other [17:10] I just tried Muffineer [17:10] and? Did it work? [17:10] yes it was [17:10] but somehow little weak against some scanner [17:11] So I went for something which beats paper as well as most scanner [17:11] hehehe [17:11] had only one big weakness [17:11] didn't figured out why [17:11] :) [17:12] Unfortunately not everybody has sent warriors :( [17:12] yes :( [17:13] I also missed some other players, like Metcalf or Adamowski [17:14] Metcalf hasn't been here for a while :( [17:16] well, I wasn't here also for a while [17:16] Then you've probably missed the new rule, that you have to kick bvowk for no reason when you enter [17:16] dammit.. where'd sf go? [17:18] sf left [17:18] Join: fiveop joined #corewars [17:18] Fluffy: loooool [17:18] I got that much :) [17:18] hi fiveop [17:20] curious about Round 2 rules [17:20] will be a tough battle against inversed [17:20] I still don't know, who I'm up against in round 2 [17:20] against Zul Nadzri [17:21] sure? [17:21] yep [17:21] Heath vs. Chip Wendel [17:21] Fizmo vs. inversed [17:21] oh, that's unfair [17:21] unfair? [17:21] Heath vs. Chip [17:21] Zul Nadzri vs. Fluffy [17:22] yes, that too [17:22] Mizcu vs. Roy van Rijn [17:22] poor Roy! Mizcu will crush him :) [17:22] :-P [17:22] Roy have no chance to survive make your time [17:22] hahaha [17:22] that's the kick in this kind of tournament [17:22] everything can happen :-P [17:25] Miz: don't let hear Roy that :-P [17:25] Me lolz at puny Roy [17:25] loool [17:26] Damn! I've burned my meal :( [17:27] ups [17:29] Join: heath joined #corewars [17:29] Hi heath [17:29] Hello. [17:31] I wasn't going to come and chat today, since you guys distract me too much from getting work done. [17:31] Alas, a test is taking very long to finish, so I had to come and say hi while I am waiting. [17:31] ok, then just kick bvowk and don't chat ;-) [17:31] :) [17:43] Join: Roy joined #corewars [17:44] :-( poor mizcu... he might be so teased if he loses next week... [17:44] Roy good joke [17:44] hahaha [17:45] Hi Roy! [17:45] You don't really think, that you can beat the almighty master Mizcu? [17:46] No, but he might just get unlucky [17:46] No way! [17:51] Roy: hahahahaha [17:51] hi Roy :) [17:52] hehehe, let's wait about the Round 2 rules [17:53] if not trivial rules I will bet for Mizcu [17:53] hehehehe [17:56] * Fizmo hides [17:56] At least I can cook :P [17:56] looool [17:56] a lifesign [17:56] hehehe [17:57] How is it going, Roy? [17:57] Everything fine here, how are you? [17:57] * Fluffy yawns [17:57] Still very busy? [18:00] I am fine two [18:00] Returned on friday from a business trip to Italy :-P [18:01] Nice :) you seem to be travelling a lot lately, thats nice [18:01] took summer cloths with me but it was cold...... [18:01] yeah, one week business trip one week home [18:01] but now next time just office [18:02] hrm. [18:03] hrm? [18:05] Fizmo: That's bvowkish and means, he's is alive ;-) [18:06] Just like this is Fluffish for 'hi' > :) [18:17] heheheheee [18:19] * Fluffy waves [18:19] MSG: Quit: fluffy.i < 1, # 42 [18:44] gotta go too [18:44] * Fizmo waves [18:44] MSG: [19:02] MSG: [20:51] MSG: Quit: humhum [21:05] MSG: [23:26] MSG: Quit: Leaving [23:26] Join: asw joined #corewars [23:55] going to bed at last...bye :-) [23:55] MSG: Quit: Trillian (http://www.ceruleanstudios.com [23:56] MSG: Quit: leaving