[00:06] MSG: Quit: Home time. [00:46] Join: Mizcu joined #corewars [02:53] 111 Megapixel CCD, hmm [03:05] Join: pkhuong joined #corewars [03:05] hi [03:17] hi [03:18] been fixing cwiki? [03:19] naw, gave up [03:19] i'm guessing tiki got holed [03:19] php POS [03:20] most of it is duplicated elsewhere anyway, and I can rewrite the perf rambling on demand ;) [03:20] so I'm not sure where koth.org links to pvk.ca, but that ink should be removed [04:06] you should use disappearing inks like i do [04:28] :p [05:12] ...which reminds me of a hack that makes pages (or sections thereof) "age" by making them fuzzier. [05:41] Join: pkhuong- joined #corewars [05:41] Join: fiveop joined #corewars [05:41] hi [05:41] hi [05:45] MSG: Read error: Operation timed out [05:46] Nick Change: pkhuong- changed nick to pkhuong [12:05] Join: Fluffy joined #corewars [12:06] :) [12:07] hey [12:08] Hi pkhuong. Nice to "see" you [12:08] hey you. [12:09] cw wiki is dead. It got real sick (looks like it got holed) and I ended its pitiful life ;) [12:10] hmm ... it is probably a better idea to publish its data in some static files [12:10] no dead dead [12:10] empty DB, looked like [12:10] but probably you can find the info elsewhere [12:10] fizmo's lexicon was better, and the implementation tricks pages aren't that hard to remember [12:11] :) [12:11] bvowk: PyCorewar has made a step forewards [12:12] bvowk: It how has fast load-file parser and run/p_run works fine for 94nop. So it now should have everything, that you need for evolving [12:12] *how->now [12:12] he's got other stuff to hack on for now though, i believe ;) [12:13] another contest? [12:14] datagram: "a few days" are over NOW! [12:15] http://www.pvk.ca/tw/#FooBar <- what I've been working for the last 12ish months ;) [12:17] I think, that you've already told me about that :) [12:17] yeah, but now I'm working on the docs, and it's working [12:17] Sounds interesting, but I won't touch CL until I have to [12:18] heh. [12:19] At the moment I'm thinking about new ways to represent information about a warrior. [12:19] Like a graph with the cycle, the warrior dies [12:20] (bad English, I hope, you get the idea) [12:20] nope [12:20] For every fight, I save the cycle, the warrior has died or won. [12:20] and then I count that for many rounds [12:20] k. [12:21] and then I create a bar chart, where you see how often a warrior died/won in a specified cycle range [12:22] Or a chart of the process development of a warrior [12:23] Maybe it becomes interesting [12:36] ..bv wanted to recognise some classes of losing warriors w/ the matcher/rewriter [14:10] What do you think of http://corewars.jgutzeit.de/temp/scoreplot.png ? It is a star plot of the scores of Harmless Fluffy Bunny against fsh94nop-0.3. [14:11] I mean: What do you think of this kind of representation? (not of the scores) [14:12] MSG: [14:12] That scary? [14:29] MSG: Quit: Leaving [14:29] Join: asw joined #corewars [14:43] MSG: Quit: Leaving [14:43] Join: asw joined #corewars [14:52] MSG: Quit: Leaving. [15:09] Join: pkhuong- joined #corewars [15:12] MSG: Ping timeout: 252 seconds [15:18] Nick Change: pkhuong- changed nick to pkhuong [15:29] hrm [15:31] ? [15:31] * bvowk carves fluffy into steaks and has a BBQ for the channel so nobody starves while waiting for datagram to get finished with boobies. [15:32] erhm. context? [15:32] ah, tourney [15:49] Join: MushyHead joined #corewars [15:49] Hey hey [15:49] Nick Change: MushyHead changed nick to DeadEye [15:50] Topic Change: DeadEye sets topic: DeadEye Skarpo woz ere [15:51] Nick Change: DeadEye changed nick to WowKing [15:52] * WowKing be the king of wow! [15:52] :) [15:52] Bah [15:52] Part: WowKing left #corewars [15:55] Topic Change: pkhuong sets topic: going to have to delay the tournament a few days...something came up! -datagram [16:03] Join: Core_old joined #corewars [16:23] wtf? [16:26] no idea [17:04] Join: sf joined #corewars [17:06] Hello [17:06] hey [17:06] Hi Mr Vowky [17:06] Hi Core_old [17:06] New nick? [17:07] I've grown too old for Core29...had my 30th birthday in january ;-) [17:07] hello sf [17:07] how's it going? [17:08] That is old :( [17:08] hey! [17:08] Hi Bvowkness [17:08] Going fine :) [17:09] How does it go for the great Bvowkensteiny? [17:10] its goes alright.. [17:10] I'm spec'ing new UPS systems [17:10] turns out to be a great deal more of a pain that one might expect. [17:11] The CW Wiki is dead, does anyone have copies of some of the articles? [17:11] yeah sorry. [17:11] yeah, you can roast PK about that. [17:11] and nope. [17:11] you don't have any copies? [17:11] my fault, should either nor use php apps [17:12] There was some good evolving stuff someone wrote [17:12] or keep em up to date [17:12] re implementation? [17:12] the rest can be found elsewhere, iirc. [17:12] doh. [17:12] (e.g., random metaheuristic handbook) [17:12] Join: Fluffy joined #corewars [17:12] Hi Fluff [17:12] :) [17:12] looks like it got holed, my db was empty... [17:12] yuck. [17:13] yeah...php [17:13] php is evil [17:13] * sf skewers pvk with an iron spike and prepares the bbq [17:13] No backups a few articles could be extracted from? [17:13] old backups. [17:14] the problem is that sql dbs aren't backed up w/ the rest of the data [17:14] why not? [17:14] don't ask me :/ [17:14] n. [17:16] * Fluffy pokes bvowk in the eye to see what's behind it [17:16] *plop* [17:16] you guys are just full of issues [17:17] :) [17:18] * sf kick pvk because he blocked the Wayback Machine with his robots.txt :) [17:18] it's still on google, probably [17:18] otoh, I have nfi when the breakage happened [17:20] It was ok about a month ago [17:22] hi [17:23] archive.org [17:23] n. [17:23] robots.txt, kept getting hammered by spiders from everywhere [17:23] google was allowed [17:24] What's google? [17:24] ;-) [17:24] but nope. [17:24] Most of my 'visitors' are crawlers too [17:24] I don't have stats so I don't know who my visitors are [17:24] probably no-one :) [17:25] http://corewar.atspace.com/ ;) [17:26] sf I just read the access_log from time to time [17:26] Now, that so many people are actually talking. What do you think about http://corewars.jgutzeit.de/temp/scoreplot.png [17:27] ? [17:28] any comments? [17:30] Might be interesting to superimpose the plots for different versions on the same image :) [17:31] for different warriors? [17:31] or just modified versions? [17:31] For different versions of the same warrior [17:31] Obviously not trivial differences [17:41] Join: CL joined #corewars [17:41] MSG: Client Quit [18:00] PID USERNAME PRI NICE SIZE RES STATE WAIT TIME CPU COMMAND [18:00] 85 koth 61 0 64M 66M run - 5:30 99.02% perl [18:04] Top 6 on nano are hand-written! [18:04] yeah, I was looking at that.. [18:04] quite disappointing. [18:04] I'll have to get my butt in gear. [18:08] I have an adsense update: [18:09] dystopia, sudoku and caving have had 3 clicks for a total of $0.98! [18:09] Hmmm that was definitely the wrong window! [18:09] yup [18:09] I'd say so. [18:10] At least I haven't clicked myself :) [18:11] You click yourself? [18:11] No! [18:11] I don't click myself [18:11] Besides, google recognise suspicious clicks [18:12] Do you really think, that you'll ever see any money from Google? [18:12] Yes [18:13] Goog luck then :) [18:13] Otherwise I'll invite them to #corewars and we'll all give them a good kick [18:13] *Good [18:14] They'll just ignore you [18:15] They send the money out when it gets to $100 [18:16] so in about a year? :P [18:16] hehe ... maybe they have a rule, that you to get the money within a certain time [18:17] No they don't have that rule, I read them all [18:17] And I should get the money in about 8 years [18:17] Unless I add some content to make the sites a bit more popular [18:17] Or write about more popular subjects [18:18] What's the in-thing for kids at the moment [18:18] Kids will click on anything, even google ads [18:18] apparently emo music.. [18:18] probably depends on the age [18:18] little fuckers keep requesting it on all the radio stations. [18:18] I'd vote for sex [18:18] driving me batty. [18:18] Is Pokemon still in? [18:18] sf: you'll have to do a pr0n site! [18:18] soft pr0n tho, google doesn't like the hard stuff.. [18:19] know anyone who looks good in a wet tshirt? [18:19] Hmmm... [18:19] and if so, maybe you could use them to get datagram to do the tourny while you're at it! [18:19] lol [18:19] datagram: COREWAR IS MORE IMPORTANT! [18:21] Right I'm off to make some more puzzles [18:21] :) [18:21] * sf waves [18:21] MSG: Quit: I was using TinyIRC! Visit http://www.tinyirc.net/ for more information. [18:21] * Fluffy waves too late [18:33] At the moment I'd give all my money to anybody, who could switch off the sun NOW! [19:06] hrm. [19:07] Yes, you've found a way? [19:07] I figured it'd be easier to take your eyes out and then take all your money. [19:08] hehe ... but first you have to pay a trip to Germany [19:08] and maybe I've already spend all my money on sf's pr0n site ;-) [19:11] it'd be an adwords site.. so thats doubtful [19:12] although, given your lacking computron resources, I expect you dont' have any money to speak of. [19:20] Maybe I'm spending my money on more important things than computers [19:24] lies! there's nothing more important than computers. [19:24] I could name some [19:25] Let's see ... [19:26] oxygen ... water ... milk ... xxx ... good books [19:37] bvowk: See, now you are silent! [20:03] MSG: Quit: humhum [20:03] Join: fiveop joined #corewars [20:03] MSG: Client Quit [20:05] Join: sf joined #corewars [20:05] Hello [20:05] :) [20:05] Hi Fluff [20:06] sf: Already made millions of $ with your ads? [20:06] Fluff: 98c last time I heard [20:06] that's quite close ;-) [20:06] Bit it's fun making random web stuff [20:06] Just a bit slow at it [20:08] Then make a program, which automatically creates new websites [20:09] Added some more Shi Doku http://sudoku.atspace.org/ [20:09] and just like spam let it generate millions of websites [20:09] Where's the fun in that [20:09] $ [20:09] :( [20:10] Well if I've made 33c per website in 1 month [20:10] good [20:10] That's more than enough, if you have millions of websites [20:10] 1 million websites = $330000 [20:10] yes [20:10] Providing people find them [20:11] Since it was my idea, we'll split it 95:5 [20:11] you 5, me 95 % [20:11] :) [20:11] Ok [20:11] You write the program [20:11] no, that's your task [20:11] And I'll settle for a 5% cut [20:11] Submitting the idea is more than enough [20:12] sf: it's doable. [20:12] Do you have any idea how to make tables appear side by side? [20:12] I know a web dude who generated tons of porn websites that way [20:12] sf: more tables. [20:12] Then we could fund a Corewar tournament with a big prize [20:12] or lots of pain and CSS [20:12] A table containing tables? :( [20:12] yes or css [20:13] I want them to flow. So there are more side by side on bigger screens [20:13] sf: Forget that [20:13] :( [20:14] impossible [20:14] When I print the webpage the yellow sections from the tables don't show :( [20:14] 2 columns is already hard enough [20:14] That's my other problem [20:14] That's why you have to write a program, which generates the pages [20:15] Then you can make it do all those evil things [20:15] The program could automatically steal content from other sites and put it online with ads [20:16] sf: Steal? [20:16] Yes [20:16] All you have to do, is to put the "foreign" pages in frames [20:16] Just take the text from existing websites :) [20:16] ;-) [20:17] I didn't think of frames, never used them [20:17] 2 problems [20:17] 1.referer [20:17] 2. don't think spiders will work with you on that one [20:18] pkhuong: I only provide the ideas. It's sf's problem to make money ;-) [20:23] Bvowky, where have you gone? [20:24] At the moment I'd give all my money to anybody, who could switch off the sun NOW! [20:24] Fluff, how much have you got? [20:24] I'm just about to switch it off now [20:24] More than enough [20:24] sf: I don't want it vanish behind the earth. [20:25] Don't be silly [20:25] I want you to stop the sun's fusion [20:25] (temporarily) [20:25] That's all. [20:25] The earth it round, it doesn't have a back and a front [20:25] I'll switch it off for a few hours for you [20:25] That's bad. I can't verify your claim at the moment [20:26] Bvowky, please can you verify the sun has been switched off [20:32] hmm ... [20:32] Hang on, I'll find a live webcam somewhere in the world for you ;) [20:33] How about some life image from SOHO? [20:33] *live [20:34] Hmm [20:34] I can [20:34] 't find anything interesting on the cams today [20:34] huh? [20:35] http://www.theinquirer.net/?article=32550 [20:36] Let's wait some years. Then the energy density might be high enough to warrant a weapon status on laptops :) [20:37] Amazing. Maybe someone split something on it [20:38] *spilt [20:39] * sf wonders if it was a software problem. [20:39] That would be fun. [20:40] Then soon someone would write a virus, which could remotely blow up your laptop [20:41] Someone should write a virus which displays google ads ;) [20:42] Hmm ... I can't remember when I've seen a google ad lately [20:42] probably because of some little gizmo for Firefox [20:48] :) [20:56] MSG: Quit: I was using TinyIRC! 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