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[16:02] * bvowk kicks fluffy [16:06] Join: TucDC joined #corewars [16:06] Yes, that's what I need now. Even more ... [16:06] Anyone there? [16:06] whoa. [16:06] hey tuc [16:06] how does? [16:06] Hi TucDC :) [16:06] Hey guys! [16:07] Did you see a 10 minute outage here? [16:07] yes [16:07] koth irc and koth.org were down for me [16:07] Ok... We need to figure a way for you guys to know whats up. [16:07] I had to do maintenance on the main server which knocked EVERYTHING offline until I was done. [16:08] Everything should be back up 100%. If people could test, I would appreciate. [16:08] you can always put it in on the news section on the koth page.. or post it in the logs here.. [16:08] JKW gets the notices, but not sure he has time to turn it around. [16:08] or post to the newsgroup [16:08] I probably should have the newsgroup as part of my notification email list. Right now its only webmasters of sites. [16:09] I wanted to personally check that atleast the IRC was working... And hoped y'all would keep me honest on www.koth.org [16:10] I have a big problem with koth.org ... [16:10] Which is? [16:10] ... my current warriors don't make it onto the hill. What can you do about it? :) [16:10] fluffy: don't fuck with tuc [16:10] hehe [16:10] :) Thanks bvowk. If thats the worst of the problems, we are in good shape. [16:11] I think its good now, but I'll send you an email if anyone complains :) [16:11] TucDC: Everything is fine for me :) [16:11] Fluffy: I can provide this channel for you to get good tips from the people here. ;) [16:11] Ok, great... My personal email is NOT on the same servers, so there should be no chance of it getting lost due to potential problems. [16:12] Before I forget: Sometime the author's name isn't correctly displayed in the queue [16:12] (And for the record, the KOTH.ORG setup is 10 times better than my personal setup! Load balancers, dual servers, shared file system storage, etc... I just have a single little system for myself. :) ) [16:12] If I use ";name Jens Gutzeit" I often only see "Jens" as author [16:13] I think, I've reported that problem a while ago [16:13] If you email an example hill name and warrior name to me, I'll definitely investigate. It might be a special character or html issue off the top of my head. [16:13] nice. [16:14] (the koth.org setup) [16:14] TucDC: As soon as it happen the next time I'll mail you the warrior [16:14] *happens [16:14] JKW is supposed to do all the maintenance, but if you have an issue, feel free to email me personally. I don't have any issues at all... I want you guys to have things work right [16:15] Ok, sounds good... I check my personal email often so will get on it as soon as I do see it. [16:15] thanks a lot :) [16:15] No worries... Anyways, will letcha all get back to important stuff... None of this stupid server crap. ;) [16:16] :) [16:16] I [16:16] Ooops. I'm gone. [16:16] MSG: [16:16] * Fluffy waves too late [16:17] thanks tuc! [17:09] Join: Roy joined #corewars [17:09] Hi Roy [17:09]   [17:09] (even shorter then a .) [17:10] Yes, but not as polite ;-) [17:11] * Roy doesn't care being polite :P [17:11] why? [17:13] Well, it takes so much effort... [17:14] Yes, but everybody would love you [17:14] Hehe, I gave up on that a long time ago [17:14] *that up [17:14] err.. whatever :P [17:15] any news from your new paper? [17:15] Somebody told me some time ago that there are three groups of people for everybody, 33% of the people you like the first time you see them, 33% no opinion, and the other 33% you find intresting from the start [17:16] The paper well.. I kinda tried everything I could think of, but the backwards copying was bugging me [17:16] and what's is with the missing 1 percent? [17:17] Hehe, that 1% is undefined, parents/love at first sight, special cases :P [17:18] I ended up messing around with a paper like spl @0,>1000 / mov.i }-1,>-1 / spl 2345,{-2 / mov.i }-3,>-1 [17:18] sound difficult [17:18] hrm. [17:18] wonder if sf is going to be around [17:18] Just call and make a wish [17:19] maybe sf appears then :) [17:19] My theory was it would be better because it only has one pointer and other papers can't use it much [17:19] Hear hear, hear my wish, I wish sf was here! [17:19] ah ... I forgot [17:20] You have to rub bvowk before making the wish ;-) [17:20] * Roy rubs bvowk between his legs [17:20] That's not, what I meant [17:20] Well, if I rub, why not try to make friends like you told me ;-) [17:20] * Fluffy sighs [17:22] Have you tried that paper setup before? [17:22] I have tried sth. similar, but I've never got it working [17:22] ... and I ended with the worst warrior ever [17:22] Well, its easy to make it work like I just showed, but its not very succesfull :( [17:25] ewww. [17:25] roy.. stop molesting me! [17:25] Yes, Roy. Stop molesting him! [17:25] * Roy sobs.. [17:26] why are you sobbing.. you've not just been molested! [17:27] NOBODY LIKES ME! :' [17:28] That's what you wanted! Now you have to live with it. [17:28] Damn! I'm still crying... [17:28] I had to cut an onion :( [17:38] MSG: Ping timeout: 252 seconds [17:44] MSG: Quit: fluffy.i < 1, # 42 [17:46] Join: sf joined #corewars [17:46] Hello [17:46] hello! [17:47] It helped! [17:47] Wow it's Bvowky :) [17:47] Nice, Ro is here too :) [17:49] +y [17:49] Join: NanoKing joined #corewars [17:49] Part: NanoKing left #corewars [17:50] Come back NanoKing [17:59] Why? [18:00] * sf tries to kick NanoKing, but NanoKing isn't here [18:00] * sf kick bvowk instead :) [18:00] well. no wonder he left! [18:00] look at the abuse [18:01] * sf skewers bvowk with a handy pitchfork [18:02] * Roy warns sf, I'm going to be in London next weekend, and if I can find you I'll kick your butt :P [18:03] * sf searches for suitable weapons [18:05] Where do you live? in London..? [18:06] No [18:06] Suffolk [18:06] Too bad :) [18:07] Roy, would you be able to send an email for me please, mine is down [18:07] Sure, what/who? [18:07] To / @kill nano Shutting Down Evolver Now [18:07] Thanks ;) [18:07] Err... no :-P [18:23] Join: Core_old joined #corewars [18:25] Hey sf, did you ever get your flowing tables problem solved? [18:25] Not yet but I saw what you left in the logs [18:26] And I just mentioned it to bvowk in /msg 3 mins ago! [18:26] Thanks [18:26] Ah. [18:27] I have been working on some code since I got in and joined the channel, so I haven't read what was going on. I just now glanced at the window and noticed that you were here. [18:27] :) [18:28] I table it I should do a and a
[18:29] Or make two classes in the CSS [18:29] The tables are within a second table so I'm not sure how well it will work [18:29] But I'll try it then see how it looks in IE and Firefox [18:30] Also there is a printing problem. Have a couple of ugly solutions, but looking for a better solution [18:31] Two tables within a table? What is the purpose you are trying to acheive? There may be a better way, depending on what you are trying to convey with the document. [18:32] http://sudoku.atspace.org [18:33] Uses a table to split the left column with links / ads from the main body [18:33] Then tables for the individual Sudoku puzzles [18:33] Ah, my suggestion is to not use a table at all for your layout. [18:33] For the layout of the page, or of the Sudoku grid? [18:33] Markup should provide meaning for the information. [18:34] The layout. [18:34] The grid has an abvious reason for using a table: it is tabular data. [18:34] Layout is not tabular data. [18:34] I think I'll have to look at someone else's page and see how they've done it ;) [18:35] Then experiment! [18:35] You should use markup to split the info into shunks and then style those shunks so that they appear in the manner you intend. [18:35] But the table seems to work so I didn't question it [18:35] markup =
? [18:36] Well, people have used tables to layout their pages visually for a long time. The trouble is that it ruins the meaning of the document. [18:36] Markup is taging your content. [18:36] I'll see what I can do [18:36] s/taging/tagging/ [18:36] so any of the HTML tags are markup. [18:37] Ah, ok [18:37] MSG: Read error: Operation timed out [18:38] I have to take a leak, but when I'm back I'll take a closer look at the markup. Maybe I can do a quick thrasing of it to show you what I mean. [18:38] Thanks, that would be really appreciated :) [18:39] It's fairly simple [18:40] I apologise the HTML is ugly ;) [18:42] Basically it is a header using

with a three column table to layout two columns of data (one column is a spacer) [18:58] I need to disappear for a bit [18:58] Back later I hope [18:58] * sf waves [18:58] MSG: Quit: The Bersirc are coming! The Bersirc are coming! [ http://www.bersirc.org/ - Open Source IRC ] [19:02] Lunch time. sf: I have made some fixes, but not ready to show you. I'll do a little more work on it after lunch, then I'l post a link. [19:11] Join: Core_old_ joined #corewars [19:11] MSG: Read error: Connection reset by peer [19:15] MSG: Ping timeout: 252 seconds [19:16] MSG: Ping timeout: 252 seconds [19:17] Join: fiveop joined #corewars [19:17] * bvowk dies of heat [19:17] Aww... poor bvowk [19:17] Join: Core_old joined #corewars [19:21] Join: Core_old_ joined #corewars [19:21] MSG: Read error: Connection reset by peer [19:32] MSG: Read error: Operation timed out [19:32] MSG: Ping timeout: 252 seconds [19:33] MSG: Ping timeout: 252 seconds [19:35] MSG: Ping timeout: 252 seconds [19:39] Join: johnkw joined #corewars [19:56] Join: Fluffy joined #corewars [19:57] :) [19:57] Join: fiveop joined #corewars [20:04] MSG: Quit: humhum [20:08] MSG: Ping timeout: 252 seconds [20:08] sf: http://66.92.40.26/sudoku.html [20:09] It's not totally beautiful, but it should give you the idea. [20:09] Let me know when you get it because can't guarantee it will stay there forever. [20:11] Join: johnkw joined #corewars [20:40] MSG: Quit: Leaving. [20:44] hrm. [20:58] Join: asw joined #corewars [21:42] Join: Mizcu joined #corewars