[04:01] Join: Mizcu joined #corewars [06:09] Join: fiveop joined #corewars [08:41] Join: Fluffy joined #corewars [08:41] :) [08:43] MSG: Read error: Operation timed out [08:47] Join: fiveop joined #corewars [08:52] MSG: [10:57] Join: Mizcu joined #corewars [11:18] MSG: [12:00] Join: Core_old joined #corewars [12:06] Hi Core_old! [12:07] I've just updated my page about the development of the '94nop hill - http://corewars.jgutzeit.de/history/images/94nop.en.html [12:30] er .. wrong URL [12:30] http://corewars.jgutzeit.de/history/94nop.en.html [13:06] Part: Fluffy left #corewars [13:11] Join: Fluffy joined #corewars [13:30] MSG: Quit: Trillian (http://www.ceruleanstudios.com [13:46] hmm ... a 4-line-stone, which can beat Hullab3loo [13:47] wrong :-( [13:48] Sometimes it is quite disappointing when koth.org shows slightly wrong pages [14:43] MSG: Quit: fluffy.i < 1, # 42 [15:12] Join: heath joined #corewars [15:12] Well, I might end up taking that other job. [15:44] whats it doing? [15:44] (heath) [15:44] * bvowk summons SF with a dark ritual that involves the ritual sacrifice of a dozen warriors evolved on a moonless night, at precisely the stroke of midnight. [15:45] Programming. [15:45] programming what? [15:45] I'll actually get to write code. [15:45] toaster ovens? [15:45] goat milking machines? [15:45] super-intellects that will rule mankind with an iron fist in the future? [15:46] Computers. It's tough to explain, I guess. Basically GIS web applications, or support utilities for them. [15:46] It's not really my forte, but at least I'll get to code. [15:47] Now, my job consists of setting off a test harness, and then irc'ing in #corewars all day. [15:49] heh [15:50] going to be a boring day.. #corewars isn't very active :) [15:50] have to hack on your evolver.. [15:50] so.. [15:50] It's ok, I guess.... [15:50] I saw peter norvigs solving all sudoku in python thing.. [15:50] so I wrote a scheme version.. [15:50] Yeah, maybe I'll work on my evolver. [15:50] that was pretty cool.. but mine was at least 1000x slower than his.. [15:51] I wrote a sudoku solver in ML once. [15:51] so I wrote another version that was pretty close to his.. [15:51] It was very slow. [15:51] it was 20x slower :/ [15:51] :) [15:51] so, pk suggests I write one in C [15:51] so I make a quickie version.. [15:51] right out of the gate, with no optimization.. its at least 10000x faster than norvigs [15:52] :) [15:52] PK me PK? I don't remember saying that, but I don't deny it either :-) [15:52] pk.. pk as in pkhuong [15:53] so, I'm happy I've got something smoking fast (which could likely be even faster if I worked on it), but at the same time.. I sure wish the scheme ones were faster [15:53] at least as fast as the pythony ones [15:53] still.. fun.. [15:53] norvig is a demon with the python generators.. [15:58] I think that I should have been a botanist or a mythographer instead. [15:59] I hate computers. [16:07] http://paste.lisp.org/display/21833 [16:07] Whew, that's a bit unglier than I remembered. [16:11] heh [16:11] its kinda cute tho [16:11] cute? [16:40] Join: sf joined #corewars [16:40] Hello [16:42] tweaked - http://sudoku.atspace.org/ [16:43] And a new kind of puzzle! [16:58] Join: Fluffy joined #corewars [16:58] :) [16:58] Hi Fluff [16:59] * sf gives Fluff a friendly kick [16:59] That's what I need right now :) [17:01] * Fluffy needs data about recent challenges on 94nop!!! [17:21] | | | | / |\ |\ |\ /| |\ |\ [17:21] |\| | |> < |\ | | X | |/ | [17:21] | | | | \ | | |/ \| | | [17:22] Oops, sorry. [17:23] Runes? :) [17:23] Yeah. [17:23] Except I had a typo. I was missing an ehwaz. [17:32] Join: Roy joined #corewars [17:32] Yay! my message got slashdotted :P [17:32] Hi Ro [17:32] Where? [17:33] See Slashdot, the google message :) [17:33] http://slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=06/06/29/126234&from=rss [17:36] gotta go, london here we come [17:36] MSG: Client Quit [17:36] * sf waves [17:36] Wow, slashdot looks different from the last time I looked at it. [17:43] Damn ... I've missed Roy :( [17:53] Join: fiveop_ joined #corewars [17:56] MSG: Ping timeout: 252 seconds [18:23] I wish that I was just filty rich so that I could go back to graduate school. [18:24] Google ads! [18:24] nah ... you could do far more evil things with all the money [18:24] They will make you filthy rich [18:24] I have $1.12 already! [18:24] sf: Do you live in another universe, sf? [18:24] :) [18:25] Fluff: some people make millions on google ads [18:25] Google says so [18:25] I have trouble beleiving that. [18:25] sf: Those people form a non-measurable set [18:27] Maybe I'll write a myspaceish thing that doesn't absoutly suck, and then make millions off of google ads? [18:27] Well I bet you each $25 I can make $50 from either google ads or gambling by the end of the month [18:27] heath/sf: They've probably meant, that Google makes millions of $ with Google ads [18:28] sf: How could you possibly get enough traffic to make $100 off of google ads? [18:28] In a month. [18:30] by making millions of pages with google ads [18:30] Do you get paid by the click? [18:31] Yes [18:32] Depending on the keywords on your page, 1 click varies from 5c to $65 [18:32] I'm sure they have thought of this, but what prevents one from writing something that "clicks" for you over and over? [18:33] $65 for one click, I don't believe it. [18:33] They have various means of detecting invalid clicks [18:33] value per click can depend on the location of the clicker [18:34] Geolocation? [18:34] heath: No, her/his position in front of the monitor! [18:35] * sf ties fluff's hands together to prevent him typing anything else [18:35] I still have voice recognition [18:35] MSG: Ping timeout: 252 seconds [18:35] Join: fiveop joined #corewars [18:35] So, what if one were to write a small program that were to, say, copy itself onto every other machine it can find, and then say, email itself to everyone it can, and then go to your page and click. What then? [18:36] Eventually that program would be found and google would be taking the money back off you [18:36] Oh, and the click through rate would be too high [18:36] Ah. [18:36] If your percentage of vistors who click is too high, it looks suspicious [18:36] and probably later that day some nicele dressed men would knock on your door [18:37] *nicely [18:37] Perhaps you make your little program orchestrate a clicking with a gradual distribution. [18:38] heath: Wouldn't work [18:39] Fluffy: Why not? Because they would have to collaborate by reporting back to a centralized location? [18:39] Because I'd never use ads on my page :) [18:39] :) [18:39] sf: How long has it taken you to get your $1+? [18:39] hehe ... today I've seen the first ad for days [18:39] How about just making an interesting web page and hoping for the best? :) [18:40] I'll consider it. [18:40] heath: about a month! [18:40] That is too little. [18:40] What page is it? [18:40] but the page isn't live yet, I've only shown it to people here [18:40] The sudoku page? [18:40] probably the dystopia page [18:41] But I will have to purchase a domain name, and I would need to be sure that I could reclaim that expense. [18:42] heath: A domain isn't that expensive [18:42] It is for me. [18:42] why? [18:42] I am BARELY scaping by. [18:42] I have no disposable income. [18:43] Woah, only $6.95 a year at GoDaddy? Is that correct? [18:43] don't know, but that's similar to the lowest prices here [18:43] Hmm. Maybe that is affordame. [18:44] s/affordame/affordable/ [18:44] http://uncyclopedia.org/wiki/Google :-) [18:44] :) [18:44] I applied there. They didn't want me. :( [18:45] To Uncyclopedia? ;-) [18:45] No, Google. [18:47] hehe ... I've just found the best Germany company ever! [18:47] http://wtf.de/ [18:47] LOL [18:48] uncyclopedia has google ads [18:49] sf: I don't see any :) [18:52] Oh how I loove Uncyclopedia. It is better than bash.org :) [18:52] http://uncyclopedia.org/wiki/George_Bush [19:00] heath: What would you do with your domain? (Apart from running Google ads ;-) [19:04] Lunch time. [19:04] :) [19:04] Fluffy: Run my wand shop, of course. [19:04] More on that after lunch. [19:05] A wand shop? [19:05] There's one of those near here [19:07] hm ... and what do they sell? [19:09] Wands [19:09] stupid idea :) [19:10] And how much does a wooden stick cost there? [19:11] No idea, I have no need of one [19:11] * bvowk whacks fluffy with a stick [19:14] * Fluffy removes brain (if existant) and burns it [19:14] Join: Roy joined #corewars [19:14] Ro! [19:14] * Roy is looking for a stick.. [19:14] Not in london yet? [19:14] bvowk: See! that way I can no longer read your nasty comments! [19:15] And you can't make a better warrior then the one I posted yesterday ;-) [19:15] * Fluffy kicks Roy so hard, that he flies to Londonium [19:15] Woohoo, wtg bvowk [19:15] Have I missed something? [19:15] No, not flying until tomorrow morning [19:15] But I was packing my bag, but my girlfriend took over and uhm now I have free time :) [19:16] :) [19:16] sf: read logs ... ! [19:16] Roy: lucky you :) [19:16] Yeah, thats why I love her so much ;-) [19:17] http://www.koth.org/irc-logs/2006-06-28.txt from 17:43 - 17:45 [19:18] Roy: Is that your gf on the picture at redcode.nl? [19:18] yeah :) [19:19] (one of my gf's anyway) [19:20] Roy: Don't write that or you'll soon have one less [19:20] Nah, she suggested I'd write that, she's looking over my shoulder [19:21] * Fluffy suggests, that she kicks Roy very hard [19:21] * sf waves to Roy's girl :) [19:22] Nick Change: Roy changed nick to GF [19:22] * GF kicks Fluffy [19:22] Nick Change: GF changed nick to Roy [19:22] Ohw, and she waves :P [19:22] hehe [19:22] ouch, how could anybody want to hurt that poor Fluffy! [19:22] It is such a bad, bad world! [19:23] * Fluffy launches nuclear strike at Roy [19:23] She isn't reading anymore, she's folding my cloths and putting it in the closet [19:23] (while I'm saying she shouldn't...but she insists) [19:29] * Fluffy is away for about 20 minutes [19:33] * Roy is away too, for about 3 days (maybe?) [19:33] Or I'll suddenly appear when I'm bored again and my gf sees something else to clean/wash/fold [19:33] MSG: [19:36] * sf waves [19:36] MSG: Quit: I was using TinyIRC! 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