[02:47] Mizcu has left the room! Chaos and pandemonium reign! [04:26] Join: Mizcu joined #corewars [04:54] Join: Core_old joined #corewars [05:04] MSG: Ping timeout: 255 seconds [06:58] Join: fiveop joined #corewars [09:51] MSG: [11:57] Join: John joined #corewars [11:57] Hi [12:01] Every time I come here I get told "[ERROR] You need to be an operator in #corewars to do that" [12:01] But I'm not sure what Chatzilla was trying to do [12:01] * John waves [12:01] MSG: Client Quit [13:22] Join: Mizcu joined #corewars [14:53] MSG: Read error: Connection reset by peer [15:35] Join: Mizcu joined #corewars [15:37] hrm [15:38] doh.. lost ops already ;) [15:38] hrm [15:39] hi bvowk [15:39] heya mizzer [15:40] its a say day [15:40] sad day? [15:40] my oldgame-puter seems to have died from lack of use [15:40] oh dear. [15:40] bitrot claims another. [15:40] what was it? [15:40] p2-350 [15:40] bah. [15:40] thats not an old game computer. [15:40] MSG: Ping timeout: 255 seconds [15:41] well, more than this one [15:41] Join: fiveop joined #corewars [15:41] except that this one runs dosbox quite well [15:41] my retro computer is a 386dx/33 w/ 540MB disk and 32MB ram (ok, so no computer of that era had 32MB of ram, but hey..) [15:42] although, its usually more convienient to play on dosbox [15:42] but sometimes you need a shitty mouse, a VGA monitor and a clicky keyboard to get the right feel ;) [15:42] (and a black box with a big punisher skull painted on the side! [15:42] ) [15:51] i am getting quite desperate; downloading microsoft virtual pc [15:52] vmware needs registeration -_- [15:53] bochs? ;) [15:54] Join: Miczu joined #corewars [15:56] MSG: Ping timeout: 255 seconds [15:56] Nick Change: Miczu changed nick to Mizcu [16:37] Join: willvarfa joined #corewars [16:45] heya wil [16:45] hello barklay [16:45] how goes?Ă„ [16:46] its alright [16:46] yourself? [16:50] well, making a bit of time :-) [16:52] excellent. [16:52] whatcha haxxoring? [16:54] species 3, i hope [16:55] kinda [16:55] species blossom [16:55] MSG: Read error: Connection reset by peer [16:55] so, whats it goign to contain? [16:56] well it was partially written when Roy was casting around for ideas for his thesis [16:57] or project or whatever it was [16:57] btw, wrote most of a universal machine the other night ;-) But why finish it? [16:58] Join: Mizcu joined #corewars [16:58] ¤&#"&¤" [16:59] so Blossom is all about dimensions [16:59] and eventually fingerprints, prehaps [17:03] omg, 10k/s from ibiblio [17:04] why finish it?! [17:04] the UM is great fun ;) [17:04] fixed benchmarks wil? [17:06] yes, where each score dimension is a benchmark of like-strategy warriors [17:07] hmm [17:08] oh right. [17:08] we've talked about your scoring.. [17:08] and the fingerprinting is going to be to cluster the breeding populations? [17:11] well for phase 1 fingerprinting will be left out [17:11] its just at the back of my mind [17:11] phase one is quite simple [17:11] there are three benchmark populations: paper, scissor, stone [17:12] this number is because this species-blossom has a UI: it runs gnuplot so you can see the evolving live [17:13] the best warriors breed [17:13] Join: Core_old joined #corewars [17:13] their score is basically currency to by bed-time as it were [17:14] they breed with their nearest neighbours, where the distance is costing this currency [17:14] the better the warrior, and the nearer its neighbours, the more it can breed [17:14] ahh. [17:14] interesting. [17:15] and it is all backed up by dmars [17:15] so eventually it might be able to be distributed if I had more computers [17:15] my new evolver uses exhaust so far ;) [17:15] mine too [17:15] but the API is dmars, so I ought to be able to make that exhaust on several machines one-day [17:16] only because I'm writing it in lisp right now.. and I know the C layout of exhaust so well I wrote the interface without even looking att the header files. [17:16] exhaust rocks :-) [17:16] :-D [17:16] You are inspring me to hack Yace and try new things.. but i am yet unable to do C [17:17] damn my lazyness [17:17] you'll never be able to hack C if you don't start [17:18] well, there will be programming courses ahead at polytech, guess thatll be the last time [17:18] to learn [17:18] the way to learn a programming language is to pick something you want to do, and then make it happen. [17:19] and do it in a marathon.. [17:19] otherwise it doesn't stick [17:20] what languages do you know, Miz? [17:20] you should use pycorewars and python.. [17:21] Basic, and thats about it [17:21] done little pascal [17:21] most people can pick python up in an afternoon [17:21] its simple, and fast enough.. [17:21] and there's piles of example code. [17:22] hmm, this is kinda weird [17:23] MSG: Read error: Connection reset by peer [17:23] freedos installer says i have 2 Gigs free space in "drive c", while its limited to 128 Megs [17:28] Join: Core_old joined #corewars [17:31] well, freedos installs like crap on MS virtual PC [17:33] uh.. [17:33] *MS* virtual PC. [17:34] even their pretend PC's run like shit. [17:34] well, not surprising [17:35] so going to tell us whats in your new evolver, barklay? [17:36] didn't I do that the other day.. [17:36] redcode simulator, so I can calculate coverage and replication.. [17:36] distributed hills instead of a single benchmark [17:37] genetic programming approach instead of simplistic GA based crossover.. [17:37] two layers, simple redcode units, and warriors made from the combined units [17:38] inspired more than a little by the uGP people.. [17:38] bbiab. [18:34] * willvarfa stretches [18:49] so barklay, about icfp [19:02] yes? [19:06] hmm was wondering what the result should be :-) [19:08] right now I am completely confused by it just exiting normally with the message "NAND error" arggh [19:09] MSG: Quit: Lost terminal [19:22] Join: pkhuong joined #corewars [19:22] life :) [19:22] nolife [19:23] hi pvk [19:23] hi [19:34] hi [19:35] meh... used to beat cplex, now losing fairly clearly to it. [19:39] hmm, testwarrior still needs tweaking =/ [19:41] or just dumpstering [19:42] bah, if i stay awake until creative (again), ill wake up again at completely wrong time of day [19:45] and i think last creative time was already horrid enough (ugh) [19:45] hrm. [19:45] i always feel like coding 3-4 hours before creative enough [19:46] well now sandmark.umz gets as far as "loadprog ok", but I don't see any marks [19:46] you've got a bug [19:46] should they start to appear immediately, or should sandmark.umz take a while to run? [19:46] or else you're um is painfully slow ;) [19:47] all the other text just flies by [19:47] the codex runs? [19:48] yeah, it says "enter decryption key" [19:48] immediately [19:48] and when you enter the key? [19:48] * willvarfa wonders what key?? [19:49] ah they haven't released that yet? [19:49] meh, if you get there, it should probably work. [19:49] I haven't entered the competition as such [19:49] what was the key? [19:49] different for each team [19:49] 2 sec I still have it somewhere [19:51] one slight other question: input. should I make the enter-key be the signal that input has ended, or will it be needed? [19:52] EOF = EOF :) [19:52] it wants the \n [19:52] really unix-centric [19:53] I wondered about that: how do I generate an EOF on stdin? [19:53] ctrl-D [19:53] thx [19:53] careful, you don't want your shell to intercept that and log you out or kill the um [19:54] key: (\b.bb)(\v.vv)06AAbvFCZs97P6bvhn [19:55] can't get ctrl-D to do much (konsole) [19:55] lowercase d, right&? [19:56] ah, no worries, "all pregnant" is 0xff not ~0 :-D [19:56] :) [19:57] aha! in :-) [19:57] decrypting [19:57] ok [19:57] ... dead? [19:57] it outputs the new file [19:57] pipe that to a file [19:57] it outputs nothing arggh [19:58] something wrong :-( [19:59] Join: pkhuong- joined #corewars [20:00] *cogs rotating in head* [20:02] MSG: Ping timeout: 255 seconds [20:05] well time for me to call it a night [20:06] I think that putting my arrays in a linked list was not an optimsation ;-) [20:10] Join: fiveop joined #corewars [20:11] !bing! [20:12] no, wont work [20:12] but got another idea [20:20] nope, aint workin [20:30] well sandmark runs [20:30] not sure what kind of time is expected :-) [20:41] well it seems to work, although the copy-n-pasting of the dump isn't argh :-D [20:43] MSG: Remote host closed the connection [21:02] MSG: Quit: Trillian (http://www.ceruleanstudios.com [21:35] MSG: [22:17] MSG: Quit: Lost terminal