[03:53] MSG: Read error: Operation timed out [04:04] Join: Mizcu joined #corewars [08:56] MSG: Read error: Operation timed out [09:02] Join: fiveop joined #corewars [09:06] Join: asw joined #corewars [11:23] MSG: Quit: Lost terminal [12:29] Join: Nenad joined #corewars [12:35] MSG: [13:27] Join: fiveop joined #corewars [15:22] Join: Fluffy joined #corewars [15:22] :) [15:35] Join: Nenad joined #corewars [15:35] :) [15:36] Hi Nenad :) [15:37] long time, no see... [15:37] how r u, Jens? [15:38] Yes, I was a little bit busy [15:39] seems that we've all been... [15:39] hehe [15:39] but I hope you haven't given up on corewar yet :) [15:39] At least nothing has changed. I still have no ideas for a good warrior and inversed seems to produce excellent ones out of thin air ;-) [15:40] yeah. [15:40] I could say that I'm out of ideas, but, really, I haven't been thinking much about corewar these few months, so that's kinda natural [15:40] And you? Any good ideas? [15:41] had tons of them in the past, but it'll take some time to get back in shape :) [15:42] I'm mostly playing chess lately, so that's consuming the majority of my spare time (which I used for cw before) [15:42] I think I'll play a little bit with my old ideas. [15:42] nothing wrong with that :) [15:42] A score of 137 against fsh doesn't seem that bad after all [15:42] which fsh? [15:42] 94nop [15:42] 0.3 [15:43] :) no, it's not bad [15:43] But of course I have to optimize it a little bit further ;-) [15:43] ... but I haven't been optimizing much in my last warriors, mainly because my Windows doesn't like optimax... [15:43] hehe ... inversed isn't here ... hey would beat the crap out of me for saying that ;-) [15:43] and I don't like my Windows :) [15:44] Then buy new ones [15:44] *he [15:44] Join: Drivas joined #corewars [15:44] just wait a few months and you'll see him beating the crap out of me [15:44] hi Drivas [15:44] Hi Drivas [15:44] hi [15:44] Jens: since I'll most likely be working on a new, better, optimizer for my graduation paper [15:44] Nenad: At least my computer has sth. to do [15:45] It looked like corewars was dead, judging by the state of r.g.c [15:45] you move somewhere else? [15:45] well, yes, it is in hybernation for some reason [15:45] oh well [15:45] Nenad: Good luck with you grad paper [15:45] *your [15:45] but there was activity earlier this year [15:46] Jens: haven't started yet, but thx. [15:46] Drivas: As far as I can tell everything comes in waves at rgc [15:46] Drivas: There's usually more traffic during winter [15:46] hmm [15:46] yes. weeks of low activity, and then, suddenly, weeks of high interest [15:46] like the population dynamics :) [15:47] you mean that simple model with bunnys and wolfes? [15:47] still, LOTS of activity all the time would be nice [15:48] well, that is what everyone would like, yes [15:48] Jens: yes, LV [15:48] * Drivas reminisces about the old days, when corewarriors were real corewarriors, and all this was fields [15:49] well, you can contribute to the activity with some new warriors [15:49] :) [15:49] Yes, but not too many new ideas [15:49] maybe join a toruney that I'll be organizing in November (if enough people decide to join) [15:50] cool [15:51] btw, sorry for asking (since I don't recognize the name (but my memory is not in the best shape, as well)), but did you make some warriors in the past, and when? [15:51] Nenad: Don't be sorry, just pretend that you regularly wipe your memory and everything is fine ;-) Works for me [15:53] :) btw, I've noticed both John and Roy coming here these days, but I've missed them each time (of course)... so there is still hope :) [15:53] btw, what happened to datagrams tourney? was it finished? [15:53] I don't think so [15:54] I lost to Neo in a very stupid way, because the thing that I hoped would improve my score lead to my loss [15:54] I think I was previously Judodudo, but I don't do Judo anymore [15:55] I set my oneshot so that it doesn't get triggered by the huge decoy at the start, but ut turned out that his code was just behind it all the time! :( [15:55] and so I lost to a silly coreclear... [15:56] Jens: are you still participating? (I forgot who was to go through, and who got eliminated) [15:57] Nenad: I've banned that information from my memory out of the huge load of shame ;-) [15:57] Drivas: where are you from (country, city)? [15:57] Jens: :) [15:57] btw, since you haven't been here the last time I asked, [15:58] Britain, Leeds [15:58] would you be, by any chance, interested in 2007 cw meeting (if it happens to come to life) [15:59] who? me? yes [15:59] Drivas: how old are you? what do you do for a living? (or are you still going to school) [15:59] :) :) [15:59] Still at school. GCSE [15:59] ?me really hopes Nenad isn't a stalker [15:59] :) [15:59] :) [16:00] Drivas: You can always kind him if you think so [16:00] * Fluffy kicks Nenad just for fun [16:00] only on the nights when the full moon lights the sky [16:00] * Nenad dodges the kick [16:00] ah ... the pleasures of needless violence ;-9 [16:00] ;-) [16:01] :) [16:01] grr what the hell is a .cpt file? [16:02] * Drivas feels depressed by his macintosh inadequacy [16:02] Drivas: Just rename it to .txt ;-) then you know it [16:03] no, it's pMARS for mac [16:03] Drivas: don't worry, even if I wanted to stalk you, I would first need to get a visa, and wouldn't be easy... unless you'd like to invite me to stalk you :) [16:03] but no instructions on installation [16:03] I could do with the publicity... [16:03] :) [16:03] :) [16:04] Nenad: Why would it be hard to be a visa? [16:04] to be a visa? that would be very hard indeed. :) [16:04] but to get one? [16:05] oops ... yes, get one [16:05] well, this crappy country of mine isn't really welcome (quite justifiably, I might add), so it does take a lot of effort to get one for the EU and western countries... unless good guarantees are given [16:06] where are you? [16:06] Nenad: I always forget, that you live in that tiny country ;-) [16:07] Serbia (that's how it's called this year - but if you ask me in a year or two, it may be a different answer) [16:07] :) [16:07] :( [16:08] well, yes. I'd probably be better off in Deutschland, I know. you lucky bastard :) [16:08] Nenad: Do you have any favourite name for your country [16:08] (apart from Serba ;-) [16:08] i [16:08] not really :) [16:08] Nenad: Yes, I've been really lucky, especially since '89 [16:09] nenad: not even nenadland? [16:09] but it kind of sucks not to have a job [16:09] but there are also some separatist tendencies here, in the north, so I might say Vojvodina, instead [16:09] Drivas: :) [16:10] well, enough about local politics. too bothersome... [16:10] Nenad: And now think a couple of decades ahead. First they all form their own country. Then they all want to be part of the EU. And then they reunite (I hope) [16:11] it is a possibility... [16:11] but I would like to be in EU before this country does, if you know what I mean :) [16:11] Ok, let's change the topic ... how about a nice little thermonuclear war ... [16:11] it is a little bit cold here ;-) [16:11] I like winter [16:11] Then you get a nuclear winter [16:12] everyone wins! [16:12] was just about to say that [16:12] I usually don't think about the "far" future ;-) [16:12] :) [16:14] I've just found my old optimizer script [16:14] Let's see what happens to that warrior about a few days of optimizing [16:14] and there's my old "name" list [16:15] well, like you've said yourself, someone isn't going to be happy :) [16:15] Yes! [16:15] I myself never optimized for more than 12 hours total [16:15] but it was more than enough for a decent score [16:16] But I don't want a decent score [16:16] btw, did you continue the work on those score surfaces? [16:17] Only a warrior which lasts longer than sov [16:17] Part: Drivas left #corewars [16:17] "only" [16:17] yes, I'm modest ;-) [16:17] well, get two warriors on the hill [16:17] I sill have lots of data from the last score surface "run" [16:17] and then @kill one of them 2000 times [16:17] I only need to time to work through it any publish it [16:18] do you have a score surface plot of a warrior against some small benchmark? [16:18] Nenad: If I'll every happen of have a really good warrior on the hill, I want it to age the "normal" way [16:18] Nenad: yes [16:18] I've even published one [16:18] a link? [16:19] one moment [16:20] http://corewars.jgutzeit.de/score_surfaces/yap/average.en.html [16:20] but the "benchmark" consists only of 12 warriors [16:21] well, that's a start [16:21] I hope to publish the remaining 100 (or so) score surfaces during the next months [16:22] looks nice [16:22] I'm just wondering if my approach will work [16:22] optimization, that is... [16:23] do you dare to say more? [16:23] :) well, I'm gonna make an "intelligent" optimizer [16:23] yes, now I know everything ;-) [16:23] that will attempt to find the global optima or close enough local optima [16:24] huh? [16:24] what kind of optimizer wouldn't want to do that [16:24] I will implement several methods and see which one works best and fastest [16:24] but I think all of them will prove fine [16:25] I'll stick the simple method of testing random values [16:25] :) [16:26] well, it worked so far, didn't it? [16:27] * Nenad unfortunately has to go [16:27] yes and sometimes with interesting results [16:27] * Fluffy waves [16:27] * Nenad waves [16:27] MSG: [16:28] MSG: Quit: fluffy.i < 1, # 42 [18:18] Join: Core_old joined #corewars [19:11] Join: John joined #corewars [19:11] Hi [19:17] Join: codgeriff joined #corewars [19:18] Hi! 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