[08:36] Join: fiveop joined #corewars [10:26] Join: sf_ghoul joined #corewars [10:26] Hello! :) [10:39] h [10:48] Hello Mizcu [10:48] I thought everyone was lurking [10:51] pretty much [10:52] even i am currently in school [10:52] supposed to be playing with matlab, but i al already done [10:52] al - am [10:52] so i am just browsing koen for new ideas [10:56] (sounds kinda silly really, what was the word..) [11:01] Koenigstuhl is fantastic [11:01] I ought to send something really [11:01] maybe i should send SotBS there.. [11:01] ..now that it has fallen and i have semi-released its source [11:15] Yes, send it :) [11:18] you've scoured the source yourself already? [11:18] (just founded a wtf-level piece of code on koen..) [11:31] bbl [11:31] No, I've not see the code [11:31] What have you found on Koen? [11:38] just a few old thingies [11:39] http://koti.mbnet.fi/mizcu/sotbs.red [11:42] Just trying to figure how your imp pump works [11:47] Join: pak21 joined #corewars [11:47] it launches two 3-points spirals 1334 apart, and pops extra processes to the stone [11:47] hi pak [11:48] Hi. [11:48] * pak21 has been on holiday :-) [11:50] Hi Phil [11:50] Where've you been? [11:51] Umbria. Nice sunshine (better than the UK, anyway) [11:51] * sf_ghoul doesn't know where Umbria is, so visits Wikipedia [11:51] spain? [11:51] Central Italy. [11:52] darned [11:53] Looks very pretty [11:53] Wonderfully relaxing, although bigger hills than I'm used to walking up. [11:54] :) [11:55] Have you climbed any of the U.K.'s big hills? [11:56] Done Snowdon in the past. Never done Ben Nevis, but done some of the Scottish mountains. [11:57] I've done Thorpe Cloud (Dovedale) and Ingleborough [11:57] not quite so big [12:02] Where's Datagram gone? What's happened to the tournament [12:03] dunno [12:03] swept by tornado? [12:04] If Datagram has vanished can't someone else organise the end of the tournament? [12:05] Join: Core_old joined #corewars [12:06] have no idea [12:07] maybe someone that has already fallen.. [12:07] almost everybody is still available =/ [12:07] nenad wanted to organize a new one soon [12:08] Nenad, if you're reading the logs please add me to the list for the new tournament [12:08] (at least that will give me something new to add to my Corewar page) [12:15] logout [12:15] eh [12:16] bbl [12:18] * sf_ghoul waves to Mizcu [12:23] * sf_ghoul looks at the 94nop hill, then dances around the room :) [12:26] MSG: Quit: I was using TinyIRC! Visit http://www.tinyirc.net/ for more information. [13:22] MSG: Quit: Trillian (http://www.ceruleanstudios.com [14:45] Join: Fluffy joined #corewars [14:45] :) [14:48] hi fluffer [14:48] * Fluffy kicks Mizcu [14:49] Hi Mizcu [14:49] Nice to know that I'm not forgotten ;-) [14:50] yah [14:59] Still no luck on 94nop. Back to the drawing board [15:00] mostly same with me.. [15:00] except my drawing board is grey from the overuse [15:03] Maybe you should clean up from time to time ;-) [15:16] Join: codgeriff joined #corewars [15:16] hiya again [15:16] hi! [15:17] hi [15:19] sf_ghoul, is that your overloaded_SPL on nop? [15:19] oops, he's not on [15:19] But it should be hers [15:20] ok, gender is hard to establish on the web, sf is fem? [15:20] I think so [15:21] well, about time someone who doesn't shave their face is on a hill! [15:23] :) [15:26] Unfortunately it seems as if ghoul won't be long on the hill [15:27] snippet: [15:28] add.a #s ,2 [15:28] mov b ,*1 [15:28] sne @x ,<0 [15:28] jmz.f -4 ,{-1 [15:28] I was playing with scanner-bomber forms and came up with the above. [15:28] Is it any good? [15:29] it bombs one location and compares where the bomb points to with [15:29] the bomb's location minus one, [15:29] Join: fiveop_ joined #corewars [15:29] the does a datzero check on the bomb's location mimus two. [15:30] so you get one bomb and three other location checks in a four instruction loop. [15:30] however the bomb and two of the locations are adjacent [15:30] but two of the checks only matter if you use spl-carpets larger than #hop in the bomb [15:30] but it might be effective against other scanner-bombers or bombers [15:31] yes, but if you are a oneshot with a clear or ssd clear you may be better off [15:31] MSG: Ping timeout: 255 seconds [15:32] triggering early against another oneshot. that way your clear would trigger his [15:33] i haven't tested it in a real program, just came up with the form. [15:33] hmm ... I guess that you don't mind if your code is used by others then [15:34] if i minded other people using my code i would be a pretty unhappy fella :-) [15:35] you mean 2by4k? [15:35] It seems to have a lot of decendants [15:38] * Fluffy is back in a couple on minutes ... [15:38] MSG: Quit: Leaving. [15:41] Join: Fluffy joined #corewars [15:45] hmm-mm [15:48] i think 2by4k will spawn even more decendants, the principle behind it is pretty strong [15:48] it just clobbers some forms of scanners [15:50] naughty me is experimenting with old Kline-stuff because of lacking personal inspiration [15:51] i cant be creative without being tired as heck, and school+tiredness is a bad combination [15:52] get some sleep, take naps if you have to. [15:52] it is the lack of sleep that makes me creative [15:53] when you see imps running across the field in your dreams, you are well-hooked. [15:55] havent had that yet, thankfully [16:08] wait until you see full-fledged papers in you dreams ;-) [16:14] Join: Nenad joined #corewars [16:14] hello [16:14] h [16:14] Greetings earthling Nenad :) [16:14] earthling? who told you that :) [16:15] almost on the target with that test, Jens. Is that the paper you started optimizing yesterday? [16:15] yes [16:15] i gotta take "miz" off the highlight [16:15] :) [16:15] But there are too many clears/scanners on the hill [16:16] well, look at the top and you'll see a strong paper there, as well [16:16] so it's not impossible [16:17] Yes, but my papers isn't that good against clears [16:18] then make one that is :) [16:18] *paper [16:18] optimize primarily against clr, nothing wrong with that [16:19] Probably not possible [16:19] ? [16:19] * Nenad is very anxious to see tomorrows game [16:19] If I optimize it against clr it becomes really worse against scn [16:19] well, optimize against clr+scn [16:20] So far I haven't found any good value for which it is good against clr and scn [16:20] I often used clr+scn+cds in phase3 optimax [16:20] cds is of no use [16:20] I can take almost any values and get a score > 155 against cds [16:21] and it always gave good results afterwards... but that's why my papers were usually weaker against imps (unless they had some extra firepower) [16:21] yes, but it's not the same [16:21] if you score 155 [16:21] or 195 [16:21] wait, you can enter "clr+scn+cds" for your phase3 class? and opt against all three together? [16:21] of course :) [16:21] clr:scn:cds [16:21] you didn't know that? [16:21] beating head on desk... [16:21] :) [16:21] hehe [16:21] That's why I use my own optimizer [16:22] I know how it works [16:27] gotta go, just a short visit today :( [16:27] * Nenad waves [16:27] MSG: [16:27] * Fluffy waves [17:03] MSG: [17:29] MSG: Quit: fluffy.i < 1, # 42 [18:25] Join: Core_old joined #corewars [18:47] MSG: Quit: Trillian (http://www.ceruleanstudios.com [19:14] Join: elkauka joined #corewars [19:14] hi folks! [19:19] MSG: Ping timeout: 255 seconds [19:24] MSG: Quit: Lost terminal [19:29] Join: fiveop joined #corewars [22:08] MSG: Quit: Lost terminal