[00:00] I'm thinking on a way to execute the code directly... :D [00:00] huh? [00:00] one warrior for both sizes? [00:01] something like i wrote before + "org where" [00:01] I'm not sure what you mean, but using macros isn't allowed [00:01] at least macros with CORESIZE in it [00:02] cannot put CORESIZE in equ satements? [00:02] hmm ... probably depends on how you use it [00:02] or end/org? [00:02] end/org ... I think not [00:03] But I'm not sure (I don't use that) [00:03] something like: org (CORESIZE%10)+1 [00:03] probably no, simply ask Nenad [00:04] hehe, once you have set the rules, people surprise you with unexpected triks :) [00:04] submit you warrior and threaten Nenad if he doesn't accept it ;-) [00:04] *your [00:05] i'll try tomorrow, now i have to check something for rebuild my corewar site. [00:06] good look then [00:06] thanks [00:08] gareththe, is yours that warrior attemp on nano? [00:10] :) [00:10] yes just to see what happened [00:11] I guess you started on corewar recenlty. That is a nice score [00:11] I have been playing about a month [00:12] Good, new blood in CW :) [00:12] I had never heard of it before :) [00:12] I was just looking through the games that come with ubuntu [00:12] Since then I have been playing it tons, its great [00:13] then wait until you start to win [00:13] that's even better :) [00:13] Yeah, CW is not very famous, but it is great. [00:13] yes, all my time messing about with assembly language is paying off... [00:15] what is the best -v option for pmars [00:15] I usually use the default, i.e. don't use -v at all [00:16] but I no longer use pmars [00:16] so you should ignore me :) [00:16] (btw, congrats to Metcalf being on top of the nano hill) [00:16] i used the default too [00:17] Neogryzor: You should congrat him for "the last of the dragons" soon [00:17] because it'll soon become the oldest nano-warrior [00:18] but he still need 34 successful challenges for that [00:19] *s [00:19] Yay, JM finally updated infiniano :) [00:21] 34? just a few tests [00:22] not from me :-) I think I will go back to my vampire [00:24] Neogryzor: Yes, then lotd is 768 old [00:24] But it won't be me who submits all those tests [00:24] my generator usually needs about 4-5 hours to generate a nano-candidate [00:24] so I'm limited to 1-2 warriors/day [00:25] c ya later! thanks for help [00:25] * Fluffy waves [00:26] MSG: Quit: Ex-Chat [00:26] I gues that's it for me, too [00:26] * Fluffy waves [00:26] * ares_ waves [00:26] MSG: Quit: fluffy.i < 1, # 42 [00:29] good night logreades [00:29] * Neogryzor waves [00:29] * ares_ still waving [00:29] MSG: [01:02] MSG: Quit: Lost terminal [10:45] fluffy: grr [10:45] huh [10:50] secondary purpose of cw is to annoy fluffy, not me [10:59] MSG: Quit: . [11:13] Join: Nenad joined #corewars [11:13] hi N [11:13] hello :) [11:13] how are u? [11:14] little tired [11:14] well, cheer up -> you still need to send something for round 2 :) [11:15] its mostly done, just need to do the finishing [11:15] 11 hours still left [11:22] Join: ares joined #corewars [11:24] hi Harald [11:24] hi nenad [11:26] send me positive karma waves... i started writing the new assembler with FOR support... [11:28] * Nenad wishes good luck to The One Who Dared [12:10] MSG: [12:44] Join: gareththe joined #corewars [12:44] hi gareth [12:45] hi [12:55] question: in [12:55] L FOR n [12:55] label&L DAT #x [12:55] ROF [12:55] [12:55] is there a reason to substitute &L with 01, 02, ... 0n _only_ in conjunction with label names? [12:55] what about [12:55] L FOR n [12:55] DAT #&L [12:55] ROF [12:55] resulting in DAT #01, DAT #02, ...? [12:55] (would be easier for me) [12:58] hi gareth [13:01] hi [13:01] hows it going [13:02] unexpectedly good [13:02] excellent [13:03] what i can't say for my progress on writing warriors :-| [13:03] :-( [13:04] Join: Fluffy joined #corewars [13:04] hi fluffy [13:04] :) [13:04] hi [13:07] Time to generate a new warrior for nano [13:43] Why do I alway get the best ideas AFTER I've finished writing my tournament-warrior? [13:43] *s [13:44] lol [13:44] did you try writing warriors while sitting in the toilet? might help [13:51] i get best ideas during boring school-lessons [13:54] if I get a best idea I'll let u know [13:54] ares: *in* the toilet? [13:54] i still wondered [13:54] isnt "toilet" the room? [13:55] hmm [13:55] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Toilet [13:55] aaaaah [13:56] I think it woulda been ok if you'd put while in the toilet [13:56] interesting *G* [14:28] Join: Nenad joined #corewars [14:28] hi [14:28] Hi Nenad :) [14:28] quick question: CORESIZE is only allowed in instructions, right? [14:28] yes [14:28] perfect [14:29] my predictions for today: I'm either loose badly or become first [14:29] it is, however, tolerated if you use it to define a value that you later use only in an instruction field [14:29] k [14:29] :) [14:30] why do you think so? sensitive approach? [14:30] will you run the tournament today 23:00 CET [14:30] yup :) unless I get hit by a truck ... or freeze to death [14:30] it's cold here... [14:30] snow? [14:31] not really... not that cold [14:31] but it's also windy and wet [14:31] and cold? [14:31] ;-) [14:31] so it's very unpleasant [14:31] :) [14:31] I'm still waiting for most of the players to submit their warriors [14:32] I had a nice idea and am changing my warrior how [14:32] but you'll get before the deadline [14:32] :) [14:36] Join: fiveop joined #corewars [14:36] Hi fiveop [14:36] hi fiveop [14:45] hi 5op [14:49] Nenad: I've just sent my warrior. Could you please verify that it works under the given rules :) [14:52] Nenad: ... and of course I've found a bug [14:52] :) [14:52] it seems ok. [14:53] ok, I've send a replacement warrior later [14:54] hi [15:05] hehe .. John is aging the nano-hill [15:06] * Nenad has to go [15:06] I'll be back tonight [15:06] * Nenad waves [15:06] * Fluffy waves [15:06] MSG: [15:09] how do breakpoints work [15:10] I have no idea, because I've never used them. Stepping through the program has always been enough for me [15:11] I wanna see what happens after my warrior executes a big loop [15:11] do you have windows? [15:11] no, well I do but I'm in linux atm [15:12] ah, actually I think the game ends before the end of my loop anyway [15:12] i dont know about pmars and breakpoints... but ares provides many debugging options... but ist only available for win [15:13] :( ich hasse windows [15:13] me2 [15:14] I don't think its getting to my break point anyway, I think I've just messed something up... [15:26] warrior done :) [15:29] FOR done [15:30] damn! why do I alway miss the interesting parts :( [15:36] Join: Neogryzor joined #corewars [15:36] wee [15:36] hi 'gryzor [15:36] hi ares [15:39] just did a little program to search imp step for a given core size... to find thet there are *any* imp steps in Nenad's tournamente round #2 [15:39] thet=that [15:39] heheh [15:39] any equ many :) [15:39] guess what pmars makes out of this: [15:39] subst EQU imp mov imp, imp+1 [15:39] FOR 2 [15:39] subst [15:39] ROF [15:40] no error, one instruction mov 0,1 [15:40] do i need to understand this? [15:41] shouldn't be: mov 0,1 / mov 0,1 ? [15:41] ah, no, label is repeated, so just one instruction. Didn't report a warning? [15:42] oh i just missed the warning message... sorry... no on line ignored [15:45] also it seems to be hard to find a nice bomb or scan step in such a core. 8399=37*227 [15:46] a mod-37 step doesn't look good... [15:46] Join: skyfire joined #corewars [15:46] hi [15:47] hi [15:47] Hi Neo, skyfire :) [15:47] sprecht ihr deutsch? [15:47] ja [15:47] hi fluffy [15:47] ah, das ist gut [15:47] aber /msg mich einfach, skyfire [15:47] hi sky [15:48] hi ares [15:48] wie ich soll dich msg? [15:48] wie meinst du? [15:49] mit "/msg text" [15:49] :) [15:49] mit /msg fluffy text [15:50] yes, problem already solved [15:50] Fluffy, do you know a nice bomb/scan step for round #2? [15:51] yes [15:51] LOL [15:51] and I won't tell [15:51] :( [15:51] ROFL [15:51] pleeeease... [15:51] you might tell us in 2 weeks ;-)=) [15:52] Neogryzor: corestep? [15:53] hmmm, not in this comp. Anyway, 37 and 227 are the only pure "mods" for a 8399 core, isn't it? [16:01] MSG: Quit: skyfire [16:02] Neogryzor: Don't ask me. I have absolutely no idea ;-) [16:02] but it might be important, that 37*227 = 8399 :) [16:03] i guess 18*prime could be ok [16:03] hehe, yeah. Thats why i said 37 and 227 are the only pure mods.. [16:04] So ... are you writing a warrior for the tournament? [16:04] I'm thinking on it :9 [16:05] i have the ideas [16:08] Fortunately I haven't forgotten about the tournament this time [16:08] ... but that doesn't mean, that my warrior is any good [16:09] Well, papers have good chances in this round. :D [16:17] time to go [16:17] bye [16:17] Part: Neogryzor left #corewars [16:17] bye [16:27] MSG: Quit: Leaving [16:28] Join: asw joined #corewars [16:34] there, not much of a warrior, but it has been sent [16:34] now to sleep --> [16:35] :) [17:25] MSG: Quit: Lost terminal [17:26] Join: fiveop joined #corewars [17:32] dear fellow coders... i gotta crash for a while... (matratzenhorchdienst) [17:32] hope i dont dream in hex again [17:36] MSG: Ping timeout: 255 seconds [17:36] Join: fiveop joined #corewars [17:36] 0xB1E [17:37] your mena 2846 [17:37] *mean [17:38] yes [19:14] * Fluffy sighs [19:14] yet another useless try on nano [19:24] Join: Roy joined #corewars [19:24] hi oy [19:24] Hi! [19:24] Just send my tournament warrior :D [19:25] Thanks god Nenad mailed me that the deadline is tonight hehe [19:25] Else I would have missed it again... [19:33] MSG: Quit: Ik ga weg [19:37] MSG: Quit: Lost terminal [21:01] Join: Core_old joined #corewars [21:01] Hi old core! [21:03] hi [21:04] Join: Nenad joined #corewars [21:04] hello [21:06] hey [21:07] :) [21:07] finished your entry? [21:12] MSG: Ping timeout: 255 seconds [21:23] Join: Fluffy joined #corewars [21:23] :) [21:23] Nenad: Are you already running the fights? [21:23] not yet [21:23] still half an hour left for submissions [21:24] I hope that you've got my replacement warrior [21:24] although I have been running some fights, just for the fun of it [21:24] yes, I've got it [21:24] and of course you won't tell any details, right? [21:24] of course :) [21:25] only the sad detail that if noone else submits a warrior, everyone who did will score points [21:25] how many warriors do have atm? [21:25] only 8 [21:25] out of? [21:26] well, 18 people said they wanted to take part, I think [21:26] 11 [21:26] participated in round 1 [21:26] hmm [21:27] well, I do hope that there will be some more warriors in the next half an hour or so [21:27] So do I [21:27] I've sent reminders to several people, so we'll see... [21:35] Join: Neogryzor joined #corewars [21:35] hi all [21:35] hi :) [21:35] participating? [21:36] I'll try. How much time left for deadline? [21:36] I knew that you'll be waiting for the last moment to send something :) [21:36] half an hour [21:36] heh [21:36] I'm optimizing the entry right now. [21:36] but I'll probably wait an extra 15 mins, just in case someone is a little late [21:37] :) [21:38] i'll be back later [21:38] ok [21:38] Nick Change: Neogryzor changed nick to Neo_away [21:39] And i'll bring the entry with me :P [21:42] MSG: Read error: Connection reset by peer [21:46] MSG: Quit: Leaving [21:46] Join: asw joined #corewars [21:47] MSG: Quit: Trillian (http://www.ceruleanstudios.com [21:47] Nenad: I guess that you already have the rules for the next round. When will you published them? [21:48] probably tonight after I run the tourney [21:48] :) [21:48] And the next deadline? After xmas? [21:50] a little more time for round 3 [21:51] due to the coming holidays [21:51] january 5th [21:52] nice [22:00] Time is up :) [22:07] yep [22:08] got any new mails? [22:08] I'll just wait a few more mins for Neo [22:08] k [22:08] other than that, no :( [22:09] :( [22:09] P. Kline, John, inversed... didn't send a warrior. [22:09] neither did Fizmo, but I think he'll participate later on -> after all, he was on that business trip [22:10] Yes, he's told me [22:10] I hope that there will be more submissions next time, because there is more time for round 3 [22:10] * Nenad wonders [22:11] Yes, but people might not have that much time because of christmax [22:11] *s [22:12] round 3 rules are ready now and I'll post them just after the round 2 results... [22:13] I hope that you'll post the result here, too [22:13] of course :) [22:14] I can give you a hint, though -> you won't be able to make a paper for the next round :) [22:14] ok, but at the moment I'm more interested in the results of round 2 [22:15] well, I'll start the tourney as soon as Neo submits his entry [22:15] NEO!!! [22:19] Did it work? [22:19] not really [22:19] it produced some spam, actually [22:19] :) [22:21] lol [22:27] Join: Neo_away joined #corewars [22:27] Nick Change: Neo_away changed nick to Neogryzor [22:27] Yay [22:27] i'm in time? [22:28] well, yes [22:28] i had last minute problems... [22:28] so? the warrior? [22:29] in the floppy... :) [22:29] How the hell...!!! [22:29] ? [22:30] The stupid Windows now doesn't read a: [22:30] Yes: ? [22:30] lol [22:30] :)) [22:30] it did half an hour ago [22:31] well, since I agree about the stupidity of Windows, I'll wait a few more mins, but hurry :) [22:31] At such moments I can only recommend the Standard-Emergency-Procedure [22:31] (for Windows) [22:31] REBOOT [22:32] I'm going to copy the entry in a different disk [22:32] or simply type the warrior in the mail message from your memory :)) [22:32] yes, that would be wise (copying) [22:32] or send an imp [22:32] i have no memory, Nenad :) [22:33] :) [22:33] My entry will kick yours, Pluffy! [22:34] I seriously don't hope so [22:35] Neo: I only hope that you used CORESIZE only in instruction fields, since you've been mentioning some other things here lately [22:35] yes, no problem [22:36] erm.. mail please? [22:36] hrm [22:36] tomasev_at_nspoint.net [22:37] Nenad: You can type your mail here correctly. It will be filtered out in the logs [22:37] lol [22:37] but your your _at_ version [22:37] hehe [22:38] (sorry ;-) [22:38] :) I know [22:38] it's simply a habit [22:38] sent [22:38] finally [22:38] Nenad: I get so much spam mail every day, that I've a little spam counter [22:39] which reports the daily amount of spam [22:39] for today I'm at 134 [22:39] (with 3 ham mails) [22:39] :) so there really is someone worse than me :) [22:39] I recieve so much spam that the counter would have an overflow error! :D [22:39] lol [22:39] my mail address exists since Jan 1, 2000 :) [22:40] so I think that's enough time to land in every spammer's address book [22:41] ok. CoreWin is running... [22:41] eeek [22:41] Nenad: I hope my entry accomplish the rules... [22:41] first smaller coresize [22:41] it does (I think (I had a quick look)) [22:42] for 1400 I've send a massive qscan with YAP [22:42] * Neogryzor is affraid [22:42] it is very nice to have 200 instructions for a 1400-core [22:42] I expected to see more oneshots :( [22:42] I think they could score quite well [22:43] hmm [22:43] for the 8399-score I've used a simple stone [22:43] spl/mov/add/djn/bomb [22:43] you are wasted! hahahaha [22:43] paper? [22:43] not a stone/imp? why? [22:43] paper/imp [22:43] and for 1400? [22:44] a dodger [22:44] no s/i, because I'm stupid [22:44] I've concentrated on the qscan as soon as I've calculated its success-ratio [22:44] good reason... :] [22:45] I have 36 scanned positions, which means I can about every 33th position [22:45] *scan [22:46] how does YAP under such LP settings? [22:46] you'll soon find out [22:46] :) [22:46] Neo: Is scores acceptable, but isn't that good [22:46] the 1400 rr is already finished [22:46] I had no experience with lp-settings [22:46] RESULTS!!!! [22:46] NOW!!! [22:47] NENAD!!! [22:47] Fluff: you're 4th in 1400 [22:47] Hurry up! [22:47] and Neo is... 9th [22:47] *ouch* [22:47] Chip scored the best there [22:47] yes, hurry up. the deadline was 23:00 CET ;-) [22:47]