[00:53] holy shit [00:53] 3 of the soups have reached score over over 140 [01:02] MSG: Quit: Lost terminal [01:09] 4 of the soups [04:30] Join: memo joined #corewars [04:31] MSG: Client Quit [04:31] Join: memo joined #corewars [04:32] MSG: Client Quit [08:26] MSG: Read error: Operation timed out [09:26] Join: Roy joined #corewars [09:27] and now, overnight, only one over 140 remains.. [09:27] Heh.. how come they dissapear? [09:27] the heck do i know [09:28] I thought will said the best never dissapear.. [09:29] But well, in Yace I usually have the same, they get high scores, drop a but, get higher, drop a bit etc [09:30] about 1.68 billion warriors created, now killing soup.. [09:30] i still have 3 remaining from when the soup was strong [09:33] Heh, you could mix them into a whole new soup [09:33] * Roy likes warrior-cooking! [09:41] no good [09:41] i need a better benchmark [09:42] or i got to try an self-fighting soup for anti-evolving power [09:45] That could work.. most new warriors are optimized against koenigstuhl, so if you can beat the warriors that beat koenigstuhl you might have a good chance ;) [10:22] Join: johnkw joined #corewars [10:27] Join: willvarfa joined #corewars [10:27] mornin' [10:29] got my soup up past 140 [10:33] 220 generations [10:34] for some reason the soup got weaker overnight [10:34] from 4 to only 1 that scored 140 [11:15] Hi [11:15] Tried any of the species warrior on the nano hill? [11:15] I guess it would be the first warriors on a hill made by species..? A milestone will ;-) [11:18] just tried one 2 hours ago [11:18] failed, though [11:40] Was it close..? [11:42] no [11:42] its still there at the bottom [11:55] * Roy 'll have a little peek [11:57] Well it isn't bad, but a bit of a gap still yeah [11:58] Join: michal joined #corewars [11:59] Hi michal :) [11:59] Hi Michal [12:04] hi :) [12:05] Tell us about the idea :-D [12:05] well, it wasn't that new [12:06] but I always thought that creating asm code was a better way [12:06] to create "optimal" mars [12:06] but now I think it might be worthwile to merge some less commonly used instructions [12:06] into suboptimal code blocks, this way gcc will be less strained [12:07] for example, a generic "div" instruction [12:08] I think this is how it's done in pycorewars, but I didn't look too deeply [12:08] Ah, and that will make it possible for fmars to run all instructions..? [12:08] yes, with another workaround which doesn't interest you ;) [12:08] btw. what code from PyCorewar did you check? The new one 0.3 is going to work even more silly [12:09] don't know [12:09] a recent tarball [12:09] This is from a email from Jens: [12:09] This version (and version 0.3) no longer uses a monolithic C [12:09] source for the MARS. I've written a rather extensive Python-script, [12:09] which generates the code for the various MARS. That way you can decide [12:09] which "optimization" you want to use for your MARS. The idea was to [12:09] generate the best possible C code for the processor that you have and so [12:09] far it works quite well. [12:10] it's roughly what fmars does [12:10] Yeah.. [12:10] for now I recommend using PyCorewar ;) [12:10] But all that makes the usage a bit of a hassle :( [12:10] fmars is a one big ugly hack :) [12:11] Then I'd rather SWIG exmars again, that piece of software is done and works, I could always switch marses later on [12:12] exmars has a nice ruby binding:) [12:13] Yeah, but thats a problem in my mind, can't find the time to learn good Ruby nor Python [12:13] it's really easy [12:13] All the time I have I spend on learning all the possible Java frameworks because that will increase my paycheck :-P [12:13] just do it :) [12:13] ah [12:14] well, you aren't likely to learn many java frameworks while coding something corewars related :) [12:14] hi [12:15] and you'd learn python/ruby quitle efforlessly by just writing your toy, there's very small learning curve [12:15] hi [12:16] I tried writing a evolver in Python, and it worked a bit.. but before you can make a good project its better to have seen more sourcecode, I set it up totally wrong [12:17] humans learn by doing mistakes ;) [12:18] if debugging is to remove errors from a program, what is programming then? [12:18] Creating the errors! [12:21] Hehe :) [12:22] pak, gimme and johnkw ops [12:22] and asw too [12:22] Was just wondering about that :-) [12:22] heck, maybe even bvowk.. [12:23] but first kick that nasty lurking will ;-) [12:23] You can do the rest. [13:08] Join: fiveop joined #corewars [13:23] MSG: [13:23] Join: michal joined #corewars [13:24] MSG: Client Quit [13:25] Join: michal joined #corewars [13:41] MSG: Remote host closed the connection [13:43] MSG: [13:43] Join: michal joined #corewars [14:56] eeheheh, "..which was praised for generating interest in basic science as well as providing entertaining storylines [citation needed]" - wikipedia [14:57] eh? [14:57] article about MacGyver [14:57] lol [14:59] hahaha [15:00] basic science? turning a matchstick and hairbrush into a lasergun etc :P [16:01] MSG: [16:24] MSG: Quit: dat [16:56] MSG: Remote host closed the connection [17:15] Join: michal joined #corewars [17:17] oh god no [17:18] someone has put wikipedia article about "Pissis" [17:18] hey michal [17:21] hey [17:21] I got myself a semi-decent irc client, so I might as well lurk in here too :) [17:21] heh [17:32] hi michal [17:35] hi [17:49] w00t! [17:50] * bvowk is back on the nano hill.. [17:53] (twice) [18:17] quote: "I am just waiting for Spam spam" [18:33] Join: sf_ghoul joined #corewars [18:33] Hello! [18:35] * sf_ghoul give bvowky a vicious kick [18:38] ow! [18:38] why are you so abusive sf? [18:39] Because you was sleeping :) [18:39] Where's fluffball, he's in trouble [18:39] no, I was off getting food.. [18:39] What happened to my nano warriors :( [18:40] they were slain [18:40] fluffy slew LotD too [18:40] I think we should hold a wake for it ;) [18:41] wow! [18:41] I'm in 6th! [18:41] Wow? [18:41] * sf_ghoul looks [18:42] weep dear fluffy... I have come to remove you from the hill! [18:42] Join: Roy joined #corewars [18:42] * sf_ghoul offers bvowky some assistance [18:42] Roy! [18:42] hey roy [18:42] Me! [18:42] how goes? [18:43] Hi all, I'm fine [18:43] hrm. [18:43] Just got two free tickets for a very small concert in a radio-studio (national radio) [18:43] I hate the way modern CD's are mastered. [18:43] So I'm not complaining ;-) [18:43] I think the bulk of the recording industry should be taken out and executed as a warning to others [18:44] at least most small label metal CD's are sensibly mastered.. small labels actually care about sound quality and don't have to be the loudest disk in a stack, which is silly, because who really listens to actual compact disks anymore? ;) [18:45] back to working on removing fluffy [18:45] * Roy likes flac! quality music downloads :P [18:46] I'm mp3.. [18:46] even tho there are better formats, I've got infrastructure [18:47] (and I'm seriously not going to rerip my several hundred disk collection) [18:47] Nah thats just silly, the most I have is mp3 too [18:47] (although, it goes really really well with new machines, 4 cores, 4 CD drives, and a nice raid backend..) [18:48] you can rip a CD in a couple minutes [18:48] Heh you have a serious cd ripping rag! [18:48] yeah, I really hate those copy protected disks.. [18:49] it takes for bloody ever to rip them [18:49] If Fluff was here I'd let him choose the name of the warrior about to push him from the hill :) [18:49] like 4x longer than a normal disk [18:53] you're not doing so well sf [18:53] * Roy needs a name for his evolver :( [18:54] I gave up trying to come up with good names for evolvers.. [18:54] my new one is called jnsl [18:54] lol.. thats not very inspiring [18:54] I hit the keyboard with both hands and thats what its named. [18:54] pwgen works good for me ;) [18:54] I'm going to put everything on sourceforge so I can access it from my pc and laptop and work pc [18:55] you wrote it in python right? [18:55] No, going to write a new one in Java [18:55] that was was close SF [18:55] heh [18:55] Roy: evocore, redsoup :P [18:55] I've got a lisp one and a python one that are pretty much the same.. [18:56] redrum! [18:56] And I decided to use exmars, just the easiest to use for me probably. First I'll make a good SWIG interface for it, then its easier for other people to make evolvers (in any language) [18:56] I've got a chicken scheme one too [18:56] I should post that one [18:58] sf! you're going the wrong way! [18:58] :( [19:08] Updated my webpage now with my hof warriors. [19:08] It's at http://corewar.atspace.com/ [19:29] That's one little fluffy warrior who fell off the hill :) [19:30] w00t [19:30] * Roy got a name! [19:30] I'll call it Beagle! [19:30] There's a Tierra utility called Beagle [19:31] Thats not so surrising [19:32] Its the name of the boat Charles Darwin was on doing his research [19:33] I've already got one named beagle [19:33] :( [19:35] Then I'll call it Origin [19:38] call it fluffy [19:38] just to dilute his mojo. [19:41] You could call it r-EVOLt [19:42] en-core? [19:47] Encore sounds nice, I'll safe it for the next project ;) [19:48] Someone might use it by then :P [20:04] man. [20:04] you're filling up my mailbox sf [20:05] Sorry Bvowky [20:05] If it makes you feel any better I'm filling up mine too [20:09] And mine too [20:11] :( [20:11] sf: you're just a bad apple! [20:11] Bah [20:11] heh [20:12] on the up side, cider comes from bad apples ;) [20:12] * sf_ghoul doesn't like cider [20:12] * sf_ghoul likes mead! [20:17] * Roy likes beer... [20:17] me too [20:20] beer? brr... [20:29] argh.. I'm so stupid :( [20:29] Can't even understand basic C code anymore.. [20:29] no, just drunk >:-) [20:29] Not YET [20:30] hm [20:37] MSG: Ping timeout: 255 seconds [20:40] Join: Core_old joined #corewars [21:00] hrm. [21:00] sf has pushed one of my warriors off, and pushed me out of the top 10! [21:00] * bvowk says mean things about sf. [21:01] :( [21:01] id be glad to be in the bottom 10 [21:06] MSG: Quit: I was using TinyIRC! Visit http://www.tinyirc.net/ for more information. [21:06] aww. [21:06] I was only kidding sf.. [21:12] You bully ;) [21:17] yeah :( [21:17] * bvowk says nice things about sf in hopes of sf's return [21:17] * Roy says nice things about bvowk... sf is probably crying now.. [21:18] heh [21:19] hrm bvowk, you can program C right, I get a error that size_t is undeclared.. what does that mean? [21:19] it means that size_t is undeclared ;) [21:19] argh, but what is it? :P [21:19] you've likely forgotten to #include a header file.. [21:19] its on this line: [21:19] w = (warrior_struct*)MALLOC(sizeof(warrior_struct)); [21:19] like ctypes.h [21:19] maybe stdlib [21:20] heh yup! [21:20] * Roy kicks himself... [21:20] Well I'm pretty proud of myself actually, I made something that compiles! and probably crashes.. [21:23] if it compiled the first time.. it'll *DEFINATELY* crash ;) [21:23] especially if you were happy when it compiled instead of full of dread [21:25] lol, I can't really test it though, have to SWIG it first [21:42] MSG: Quit: Trillian (http://www.ceruleanstudios.com [23:27] MSG: Ping timeout: 255 seconds [23:37] Join: johnkw joined #corewars