[00:04] MSG: Quit: Trillian (http://www.ceruleanstudios.com [01:21] Join: ares joined #corewars [01:48] MSG: Read error: Operation timed out [01:48] Join: johnkw joined #corewars [02:51] MSG: Read error: Operation timed out [04:48] Join: johnkw joined #corewars [04:49] hrm. [04:49] I have 17781 forms in my nano collection [04:49] er.. [04:49] 17812 forms rather.. [04:50] and 428197 warriors [04:59] most of them appear to really really suck tho ;) [06:28] mornin bvowk [07:28] omg, 90 minutes spent on the programming works (including homework) [09:08] MSG: Read error: Operation timed out [10:39] Join: Core_old joined #corewars [11:00] Part: Core_old left #corewars [11:07] Join: Core_old joined #corewars [11:50] Join: Roy joined #corewars [11:51] h R [11:54] good afternoon [11:55] * Roy has a LAN-party this evening/night :-D [11:56] But the problem remains, what games should we play (we have 100+ games or something hehe) [12:04] Unreal Tournament 1 [12:04] Dawn of war (if someone brings the disks) [12:09] We are thinking about Battlefield 2 or Far cry [12:11] neither my taste [12:22] Unreal gets so messy with 20+ players, and Battlefield gets more fun with more people [13:49] MSG: Quit: dat [14:19] hey [14:19] oh [14:19] Roy's gone... [14:19] I like LANParties too....we have one next friday. Mhm. [14:43] Join: Core_old_ joined #corewars [14:45] Join: bvowk joined #corewars [14:46] MSG: Ping timeout: 255 seconds [15:48] Join: John joined #corewars [15:48] Hi [16:01] MSG: Quit: Chatzilla 0.9.74 [Firefox 1.5.0.9/2006120612] [16:36] heya met.. [16:36] I'll be back shortly.. commuting. [16:51] MSG: Quit: Trillian (http://www.ceruleanstudios.com [17:07] hrm. [17:12] hi [17:13] whats up miz? [17:13] doing anything cool? [17:14] well, pc building-course was fun again [17:15] you semi-teacher there who is not sensitive about talking crap about companies [17:16] heh [17:17] what were you building? [17:17] the school had made a nice deal sometime before 2000, and bought a pile of nice and cheap motherboards from manufacturer "president" [17:17] well, the MB turned out to crap itself out at y2k, and from the whole internet you could find 2 mentions of the motherboard manufacturer [17:17] president? [17:18] now when i search, google finds massive 3 pages about it [17:18] heh [17:18] sounds about right for tech skool ;) [17:19] so they just dumped a big number of 'puters then.. [17:20] well, this time we actually got to put a puter together, the one i was putting together had nforce2-motherboard, i think athlon2100 and radeon 9250 [17:21] nothing new, but new enough [17:21] cool [17:22] well, i didnt actually put anything together, just watching that the other guy didnt screw up [17:22] until that is, the HD decided not to show itself [17:23] cable backwards? :) [17:23] the HD was semi-dead [17:24] oh lovely [17:24] the disk rotated inside, but it just didnt want to be seen [17:24] another hd from storage and ran just fine [17:24] next time we get to install WXP -_- [17:25] installing winxp sucks.. [17:26] its sad because it only has to copy like 1.6GB of data [17:26] but it takes the exact same amount of time to do it on pretty much any machine from the last 5 years [17:26] seems wrong somehow doesn't it? ;) [17:26] well, atleast our school has decided not to have any hurry switching to vista [17:27] why would it? all it'll do is make headaches [17:28] you likely won't even be able to install vista in the class room unless they put a phone and sign a big MS tech support contract ;) [17:28] well, the school has msdnaa.. [17:28] but yeah, no even need to switch [17:28] yeah, but MS isn't exactly friendly with their vista [17:29] we've got huge site license magic here too.. but its still a huge pain in the ass.. [17:29] I'm hoping most people will just finally stop handing MS their money [17:30] considering the amount of crap thrown at vista already, it might even happen [17:32] Join: Fluffy joined #corewars [17:32] :) [17:32] hey fluffy [17:33] how's it going? [17:33] I'm exhausted [17:34] and you? [17:35] what does your evolver do? still working with the Python command line? [17:36] yeah [17:36] it evolves ;) [17:36] lol [17:36] I'm playing with the effect of pool sizes on the output [17:36] I have been considering randomizing them like I did for the mutation rates [17:37] (which is why I haven't produced much exciting stuff lately, because I'm playing with relatively young warriors) [17:37] Sounds like your evolver will eventually get a GUI with tons of options [17:37] right now it has exactly 3 options [17:37] the high water mark, the low water mark, and the initial contents of valhalla [17:38] and how do you seed your evolver at the moment? [17:38] random warriors? [17:38] (which is more like a benchmark / bias slice than valhalla is traditionally) [17:38] yes, its all random [17:38] no chains, no nothing [17:38] just random code [17:38] and I drop random code into the pool every generation, and its interbred like a regular warrior [17:39] do you interbread at random, too? [17:39] yup [17:39] or only similar warriors [17:39] with 3-12 parents [17:39] random crossover with mutation between all the parents [17:39] 12 parents? there are only 5 instructions! [17:41] yup [17:41] hmm ... sounds strange [17:41] the distribution of parents is skewed more towards the low end than the high end [17:41] it drops off pretty quickly after 5 iirc [17:42] and the parents are the best ones of the soup? [17:42] nope [17:42] utterly random [17:43] ok, it seems that my brain blanks out from time to time [17:43] I've already asked that :) [17:43] this is why I'm so surprised the stupid thing works at all, let alone works so damn well. [17:43] I keep ending up with the same 6 or 7 forms tho [17:43] and what are the main differences to your last evolver? [17:44] I've recreated hsa's from random code about 5 times now [17:44] could you mail me one of those hsa? [17:44] which is shockingly improbable (but 3 of those times, there wasn't even HSA code even on the machine the pool was running on! so that pretty much eliminates contamination) [17:45] I dunno fluffy, thats top secret bvowk industries intellectual property.. [17:45] I could feed it to my generator and see what comes out [17:45] author would be "bvowk/Fluffy" [17:45] did you see my post about the 400k warriors in 18k forms? [17:46] I remember it darkly [17:46] darkly? [17:46] hmm ... probably a bad translation [17:47] I might have a memory of it somewhere ;-) [17:47] sounds like you remember it with a dark feeling in your heart.. [17:47] like you remember me mentioning it with loathing ;) [17:47] nope, directly translated from German [17:47] (damn that bvowk! and damn his crappy nano warriors) [17:47] and it means, that I remember the fact very little [17:47] ok [17:47] how many do you want ;) [17:47] one [17:47] I've got about 680 [17:47] in several forms [17:48] ok, then one of every form [17:48] variants on bombs, add/sub, jmp/djn/jmz [17:49] hmm [17:49] just send some [17:50] ok.. [17:50] there's one [17:50] I'll send you more when I've actually finished my indexing of my collected works of nano ;) [17:51] thanks :) [17:52] I'll feed it to my generator as soons as the current run is complete [17:53] But I'll change its name :) [17:53] dammit.. deal's off then ;) give it back! [17:54] ok, you can have you mail back [17:54] just take it and I'll speak of it [17:54] *never [17:54] Any suggestions for the name? [17:55] I'm just kidding:) [17:55] yup [17:55] so you don't have any suggestions [17:55] call it queen of computronium! [17:56] ok [17:56] heh [17:56] why not Princess? [18:01] because raping underage princesses is illegal [18:01] lol [18:01] *ka-chink* [18:03] grmpf [18:06] Mizcu: Do you still run YACE? [18:07] havent run any evo for a while [18:30] so what are you up to fluffy? [18:40] MSG: Ping timeout: 255 seconds [18:44] making warriors for nano, which will last forever :) [18:44] with a simple Python script that runs on one tiny computer [18:47] (accidentally) finding a cure for every known disease is an option, too ;) [18:53] cure for every known disease is kinda hard [18:53] You have to aim high :) [18:53] using a scroll of genocide might work [18:54] Mizcu: Wrong world? [18:54] no? [18:55] yup? [18:55] you just havent found magical-enough marker [18:56] maybe [18:58] me goes sleep now [18:59] nighty [19:45] hrm. [19:54] bvowk: Do you have an automatic way to decide that a warrior is good enough to be tested on the hill? [19:56] yeah, valhalla [19:57] if a warrior makes it onto the valhalla hill, it usually does pretty well on the nano hill.. [19:57] and how big is your valhall hill? [19:59] and do you test all valhalla warriors? [20:01] not all of them.. [20:01] I'll let it run for a while and take the highest one [20:23] bvowk: You really should send your best warriors to nano-Koenigstuhl. Your oldest warrior (6843-5724-xt430-4-nano-eve78) is only on infiniano, but not on Koenigstuhl :( [20:31] ok [20:36] Join: johnkw joined #corewars [20:36] hi again :) [21:47] * Fluffy waves [21:48] MSG: Quit: fluffy.i < 1, # 42