[01:43] MSG: Quit: Lost terminal [05:22] Join: Nobody joined #corewars [05:29] Part: Nobody left #corewars [13:17] Join: fiveop joined #corewars [13:24] Join: Core_old joined #corewars [13:48] Join: Core_old_ joined #corewars [13:51] MSG: Ping timeout: 255 seconds [14:09] Part: Core_old_ left #corewars [16:49] Join: John joined #corewars [16:49] Hi :-) [16:49] Hmmm... no bvowk again :-( [16:56] Join: jon_ joined #corewars [17:00] :) [17:00] Hi Jon [17:00] Hi Fluffy, any idea where bvowk has gone? [17:00] Hi everybody [17:01] hello. [17:01] I was just wondering if any of my visitors click on the links to him [17:01] Probably to someplace in Canada? [17:01] :)))) [17:01] i think his nano warriors found a way to escape his machine and eat him. [17:01] at least thats my theory. [18:17] * John waves [18:17] MSG: Quit: mov.i #1,1 [19:18] hmm ... still now bvowky :( [19:40] Join: sascha joined #corewars [20:28] uh oh [20:28] new challenger on the beginners hill. [20:53] :p [21:29] Join: Thurasiz joined #corewars [21:29] Hi Thurasiz [21:30] Hi, some newbie here ;-) [21:30] No problem [21:30] That's what #corewar is for [21:30] (among other things) [21:31] So if you have any questions, don't hesitate to ask :) [21:32] i think i gonna use this sometime... just testet my first Warrior at the Beginner Hill on SAL... only 79,4 points... not enough. so i'm a little depressed now ;-) (sorry for my bad english, i think i'm out of practice) [21:33] no problem [21:34] a score of 80 is better than an imp :) [21:34] hmm, i would describe it as multiple coreclear an an imp... [21:35] ... and you are quite close the bottom of the hill [21:35] yes, only 4-5 points and i got it... thats why i was searching the websites i found for an idea [21:37] http://www.corewar.co.uk/library.htm might be interesting [21:38] hey [21:38] don't take my place on the bottom! [21:38] yes look nice, thanks... i even found 1 or 2 german sites... pretty cool [21:38] * jon_ fears for nalgas [21:38] why not John, giving you a reason to improve your one ;-) [21:38] Thurasiz: www.mynetcologne.de/~nc-zapfsa/files/Handbuch.pdf [21:39] yes, thats the one i found, that was my entry to corewars *grin* [21:40] sascha: I hope, that you are reading this :) [21:40] Thurasiz: you can /msg me in German, too, if that's easier for you [21:40] Oh, this genius is here ? Tausend Dank Sascha ;-) [21:41] hmm, i think training my english wont be bad [21:41] :) [21:43] at te moment i'm interested how goog an imp-spiral would do as replacement for the simple imp at the end of my warrior... hmm, maybe this will do [21:44] Good luck [21:47] :-( just tried, at wilkies (where i got almost the same points as on the hill) it gives me about 10 points less. thats not my way to place 25 [21:52] ok before i get out of here to test imp-gates, coloured bombs and all the other tricks i found, something to laugh for the pros of you... be warned its soooo simple [21:52] sometimes the simple tricks work :) [21:55] spl 2 - jmp 8 - spl 0 - mov.i 5, <-2000 - mov.i 4, <-3000 - mov.i 3, <-4000 - mov.i 2, <-5000 - mov.i 1, <-6000 - dat #0, #0 - mov.i 0, 1 (thats all, my loved little "Primal") [21:55] Join: A-law joined #corewars [21:56] Hi A-law [21:56] hi there :) [21:57] Hi A-law [21:58] Thurasiz: You know, that you don't cover the complete core, do you? [21:58] is there a way to kill his own processes, if they get out of control? like a watchdog [21:59] yes, got a 2000 space between to save myself [21:59] A-law: no, not really [21:59] ok thanks, already thought so :) [21:59] A-law: But sometimes you can use tricks [22:00] so spawning at random locations isn't a good idea generally i think hehe [22:00] A-law: For instance you can make sure, that a warrior does only work with the right number of processes [22:01] yeah i already thought of "interprocess" communication through pspace but that doesnt really help if a zombie attacks [22:01] A-law: For instance, if you need exactly 8 processes, you can set a field to 8, let the processes decrement that field and then check for zero [22:02] Thurasiz: After you warrior is run locations 6000-8000 are stil empty [22:04] MSG: Read error: Operation timed out [22:05] Join: Mizcu joined #corewars [22:09] Thurasiz: Ready for another try on 94b? [22:09] almost, trying something out [22:10] A bad warrior usually scores badly against wilkies, but sometimesa good warrior scores badly, too [22:11] Thurasiz: And if you run out of ideas there is still http://www.ociw.edu/~birk/COREWAR/koenigstuhl.html [22:12] ok looks quite good... jon, now its time to be scared ;-) i give it a try [22:13] grmbl [22:13] Thurasiz: The queue@94b is still empty :) [22:14] no, i'm in thw queue now [22:14] yes, I see it, too [22:16] congrats, Thurasiz :) [22:16] 84,1 got it, my first enter... thank you, simple but good tip [22:16] tip? [22:18] yes, the space i didnt cover... have made a test before i send him and saw that the imp sometimes stops the clear before he can reach me [22:18] pompis, nooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo [22:18] jon_: It is time for something new :) [22:18] sorry jon, but i'm sure he'll be back... [22:19] Thurasiz: Now you can play with the values of your warrior. Often you can gain several points by "optimizing" them, i.e. check random values and see, whether they score better [22:20] yes, there are 24 places more to go... and a lot of hills to conquer *grin* [22:21] im trying to remember what gnome-cannon is [22:21] i think its a scanner with a core clear at the end. [22:22] jon_: You should always have a backup of your warriors! [22:22] its in my gmail :) [22:22] Blacken, a really good warrior, which survived for more than 1000 challenges on '94nop was lost for several years [22:23] ... and then by pure chnce it was found [22:23] You don't want to have a really good warrior and have lost its code! [22:23] yes, its a scanner, throws dat bombs. the scan loop is a djsnstream. when it's done one scan pass it swaps to a multi-process coreclear [22:24] Why don't you publish it to rgc and see, whether others can improve it [22:24] http://www.ociw.edu/~birk/COREWAR/94/HILL/blacken.red [22:24] i have a few more ideas i want to try on it [22:25] jon_: Then don't wait. You have to push off Primal ;) [22:25] * sascha waves [22:25] i have ideas to... coloured bombs for scanner for example... but not tonight [22:25] Part: sascha left #corewars [22:26] heres the man who can't think of someone who doesn't program is playing corewars *grin* [22:26] oh, he is away already [22:26] sascha? [22:27] He'll be back ;) [22:27] yes, well he was wrong in his pdf, i don't program *g*... at least till i found corewars [22:31] ok, i have to go for now, a lot of work tomorrow... can anyone tell sascha what a great effect his pdf has ? ;-) so many ideas, so low on time. good night [22:32] Thurasiz: He'll know. Everythign is logged which is said in this channel [22:33] he i got mail, my old version scored place 771 on koenigstuhl 94nop *g* [22:34] so, i'm offline now, thanks again, really nice channel [22:34] MSG: Quit: Thurasiz [22:35] Good diea [22:35] * Fluffy calls Fluffy.nighty_night() [22:37] sleep well