[00:39] MSG: Quit: humhum [02:08] Join: Caelian_ joined #corewars [02:11] MSG: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [04:45] MSG: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [04:45] Join: Caelian|w joined #corewars [08:31] MSG: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [08:31] Join: Caelian_ joined #corewars [08:36] MSG: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [14:36] Join: sf_ghoul joined #corewars [15:22] hwm's taking over! [15:37] MSG: Quit: What?! Open source isn't good enough for you? Bersirc 2.2 [ http://www.bersirc.org/ - Open Source IRC ] [15:56] hrm. [15:57] so he is. [16:19] * bvowk wonders how everyone is doing. [16:23] average [16:36] average eh? [16:37] nothing special going on? [16:37] I've been hacking a little too much python recently.. [16:37] I had a dream about tweaking my class definintion to give myself better multi-tasking ability.. [16:38] I figure thats a sure sign its time to work on some other projects for a couple days. [16:38] "little" too much [16:39] yeah, just like a couple weeks straight python hacking [16:55] python ... i don't know ... i haven't really looked at the language so far ... but there's just something about it that simply doesn't go ovef well with me [16:55] s/ovef/over/ [16:55] I've found its pretty painless to program in [16:56] seems to work well, it runs on most platforms without many gotchas [16:56] i guess it's the whole "significant whitespace" paradigm that irks me [16:56] good library, the codes readable and clean [16:56] yeah, it takes some getting used to [16:56] i am more of a ruby person myself [16:56] I don't really like ruby.. [16:56] a) its painfully slow [16:56] b) the syntax is wildly mixed [16:57] the speed is known to be suboptimal ... hwoever the yarv vm which is included in the upcoming 1.9 release should fix that [16:57] the syntax itself i have no real problem with though [16:58] yeah. speed usually isn't an issue these days.. [16:58] I've found I can pick up a bit of python code after a few months and get back into hacking on it without the same amount of effort it takes in most other languages.. [16:58] i just can't see myself use any language where your editors "tab settings" have an impact on the semantics of your code though [16:58] heh [16:59] that i think i can agree with ... i feel the same about ruby [16:59] still doing most of my programming work in plain good ol' C :) [17:00] especially code i write for at job [17:00] yeah, I still spend alot of time with C [17:00] write at my job i meant [17:00] as all the bsd hackery I do is mostly C [17:00] BSD hackery ? [17:00] yeah.. [17:01] I admin bsd boxes for a living [17:01] it's a "side thing" for me ... we're still relatively small (just founded .. going onto 4 months now) ... so i take care of the sysadmin part besides embedded software development :) [17:02] Full FreeBSD setup :) [17:03] planning on putting 7.0 to use with ZFS on our new fileserver system when we finally get the damned thing ordered :) [17:03] what are you developing if you don't mind me asking? [17:03] I'd hold off on the ZFS personally.. but its good to have testers ;) [17:04] I've been pretty impressed with 7.0 recently.. its been a while since the head branch has been usable.. [17:04] Essentially "Energy Management Systems" [17:04] (finally getting back on track!!) [17:04] bvowk: i've been using 7.0 CURRENT basically since RELENG_6 was branched ... and it's been mostly stable for me so far :) [17:04] yeah, 6 and 7 have been pretty good.. not like the pain that was 5 [17:05] they've finally got the scheduler going nicely again too [17:05] have been using ZFS as my primary bulk data storage for months on my home system so far [17:05] nice. [17:05] how's the performance/ [17:05] (and whats your backend) [17:05] the performance could be better ... but oh well .. i am not too concerned about it yet [17:06] but then again .. i guess that's to be expected ... i am using it on an USB attached 300 GB 7200 RPM IDE disk [17:06] well, I know that ZFS is wildly agressive about caching.. [17:06] eek! [17:07] like i said .. .i've been basically using it for "bulk storage" for now ... nothing mission critical that i could not recover from through other means [17:07] I suppose, I can't imagine stuffing my bulk through usb ;) [17:08] I have to say, 7.0 has been doing really well on my 8way [17:08] it scales really quite well. [17:08] and the throughput is good and solid under load [17:08] i expect to put it to more serious use on the new fileserver though ... that will most likely be a ZRAID (not sure on 1 vs 3 yet) ... SATA Core 2 Duo .. 4GB RAM [17:09] I recommend the areca raid boards.. [17:09] they've got full freebsd support [17:09] yeah .. Jeff and Kris did some pretty significant work there [17:09] all the utilities work [17:09] its great. [17:09] and they're pretty goddamn fast :) [17:09] (considering the cost) [17:10] not sure on the raid setup yet ... as i think zraid is ZFS software raid solution i think ... it would feel redundant to software raid on a hardware raid setup [17:10] but yeah ... in case of actual hardware raid areca boards are nice indeed [17:14] yeah, but hardware raid is fast and gives you nice options as far as redundancy and monitoring.. [17:14] i was just happy to actually find a board capable of running the new 1333 FSB Core2Duo's with actually Properly supported onboard GigE [17:14] and it takes the load off your cpus :) [17:14] yeah, getting good gige chipsets is a pain these days.. [17:15] I've got a big box of intel em's for just that reason [17:15] it amazes me how many gige chipsets they ship these days that don't support jumbos! [17:15] yeah ... if they turn out to not function properly that's most likely what i'll resort to as a backup solution [17:16] the board i picked has 2 Marvel Yukon chipsets (2 different ones though) .. one a 88E8056 and the other a 88E8052 or 88E8053 ... forgot which one exactly right now [17:16] anyway ... that Should be supported my if_msk(4) [17:16] s/my/by/ [17:17] and if all goes well that should also include MSI support [17:17] I went computer shopping with a buddy yesterday and he picked up an AMD x2 5200, 4GB of PC8500, a TB of disk, and all the fixings for <800$ [17:18] nice :) [17:18] I think he should have bought the huge fist of copper heatsink, because he can't get a huge overclock out of it yet.. [17:19] i am not so into the whole overclocking thing myself [17:19] well, I don't do it on my production machines.. [17:19] hehehe [17:19] that would be career suicide :) [17:19] but if you pay the money to get the right ram and stuff.. it works really quite well :) [17:20] ok ... think i'll head home ... see you around :) [17:21] k [18:53] Join: Core_old_ joined #corewars [18:54] * bvowk upgrades Core to get the rust out. [19:06] ^^ [19:06] you can be core_new.. [19:10] Nick Change: Core_old_ changed nick to Core_new [19:11] excellent. [19:12] * Core_new walks around proudly [19:13] doing anything interesting? [19:14] nah...back from holiday since saturday...today first day working again...and now still sorting my mail [19:14] next holiday in two weeks anyway ;-) [19:14] nice.. [19:14] maybe then find some time and place for cw... [19:15] good! [19:16] yeah! [20:51] MSG: Quit: Trillian (http://www.ceruleanstudios.com