[01:26] MSG: Quit: Trillian (http://www.ceruleanstudios.com [03:44] Join: Caelian_ joined #corewars [03:48] MSG: Ping timeout: 252 seconds [05:44] MSG: Ping timeout: 252 seconds [05:45] Join: Caelian|w joined #corewars [10:28] Join: jix joined #corewars [10:35] MSG: Read error: Operation timed out [10:38] Join: jorgenpt joined #corewars [10:56] Join: Core_new_ joined #corewars [11:39] MSG: Ping timeout: 252 seconds [11:41] Join: jix joined #corewars [11:55] ugh [11:56] ugh? [11:56] back home, and now for some reason i feel like crap [11:57] i feel like crap for days now... [11:57] catched a quite bad cold [11:58] well, ive went through this years cold here, so i have only a little sneeze remaining [12:01] jeez, skybuck has "dat $0, $0 ; included to make pmars compilers happy." in hes program, but it doesnt even compile in corewin which he claims to use [12:05] hows it going with your warrior, jix? [12:05] oh, youve sent it to sal already [12:05] yeah that's the large version [12:06] i'm trying to get a warrior with the same strategy (but a bit slower in attacking) into 20 instructions [12:06] if you upload it to, say pastebin or your personal webspace, i can have a look and give a hint or two [12:08] well i think i got it into 20 instructions already [12:16] MSG: Read error: Operation timed out [12:19] Join: jorgenpt joined #corewars [13:45] MSG: Ping timeout: 252 seconds [13:46] Join: jorgenpt joined #corewars [14:06] MSG: Quit: Trillian (http://www.ceruleanstudios.com [14:21] ive stopped understanding this warrior [14:27] which one? [14:27] ive stopped understanding this warrior [14:27] wrong window to press up+enter [14:28] because of stuff ive recently read, and your creation of scanning vampire, i tried to make bombing vampire + imp-spiral [14:28] i got them balanced nicely, but i only ended up seeing that the vampire lacked stunning-power [14:28] then when i tried to improve it, it only got worse [14:29] how do you try to trap your enemy? [14:29] ordinary jmp pit [14:29] yeah i do that too [14:29] do you just write them all over the place or do you scan for your enemy first? [14:30] i said "bombing vampire" [14:30] oh right... [14:30] maybe that takes too long and the enemy has progressed too far when you start to slow it down? [14:31] thats the reason, yes [14:31] bombing vampires cannot really reach speeds higher than 0.33c, unless making a bomb/scan -hybrid [14:32] other problem being the fact that the imp slowed it down even more [14:32] i don't like imps [14:32] don't spawn own imps ... let the trapped enemy spawn the imps ... just a random idea [14:33] i am not using simple imps, but an imp-spiral [14:33] another thing... what assembler does SAL use? because it refused to assemble my code which does work fine with corewin and ares [14:33] hmm that something i have to look up [14:33] pmars, i believe [14:34] pmars assembled it fine too [14:34] maybe your e-mail agent messed it up [14:34] i used pmars to generate a load file i sent to SAL to get it on the hill [14:34] ive had a couple gray hairs when i forgot to put end in warrior and hotmail decided to end a warrior with an advert.. [14:35] my mailserver passes the mails on without touching them and i sent them as plaintext mail [14:35] it was something about lables not being defined that were defined but only for some of them.... but uploading the load file is no problem either [14:35] probably a voodoo-error [14:36] bvowk can look into it when he stumbles here [14:42] haha no chance on the tiny hill ^^ [14:43] not really surprising [14:44] yeah not really... [14:45] how does the beginner hill work? when are old warriors deleted? [14:46] when they reach age 50 [14:47] so when the next warrior is sent, Bastard Scanner from Hell will fall from hill even though its not the worst-scoring one [14:48] is there any place where one can download warriors that are better than the one i used for testing? [14:48] many [14:48] http://www.corewar.info/infinite.htm [14:49] http://www.corewar.info/bench.htm [14:49] out of those benchmarks at benchmark-page, wilkies is good for a beginner [14:50] wilfiz can be seen as a group that actually fights back [14:50] if you are downloading wilkies, then just take a warriors and run the benchmark on corewin, the benchmark-program is from stoneage [14:51] (tournament options -> challenge by:) [14:56] nah :( [14:56] my warrior get's crushed even by wilkies [15:12] it took me long time to get past 85 points in wilkies, no reason to get depressed [15:28] (how much does your vamp get?) [15:31] one warrior of wilkies doesn't compile [15:32] let me guess, "nobody"? [15:32] oh wait *.BAS [15:32] ^^ [15:33] i even remembered wrong, it was marcia that didnt compile on very old pmars -versions [15:33] nah i skipped the bat files because they got a different icon but i missed the bas file [15:35] 43,5 [15:35] dwarf scores 47.6 on 100 rounds.. [15:35] DONT GET DEPRESSED [15:35] ^^ [15:36] it does beat all the warriors i used for testing ^^ [15:37] just shows that you needed a new benchmark [15:37] yeah [15:53] Metcalf, you around? [15:58] Join: Metcalf joined #corewars [15:58] Hi :-) [15:59] cheesus kh-rice-t [15:59] just checked Koen 300-400 and there is not a single proper stone/paper there [15:59] (jix gave me inspiration to start rethinking my beginner-benchmark) [16:00] but the problem is that there is no P/S unoffensive enough to put in the benchmark [16:00] Hi Mizcu [16:00] (and i am still slightly on the edge about putting a paper/imp there..) [16:04] in there is a stone/PI which is excessive, and there is a Nenad's PS which is.. quite frankly unreadable to unaccustomed [16:07] Morrell's B-Panama acts properly, but i.. distrust it, just see its source [16:08] You could quickly code up something which meets your requirements [16:09] well.. yes.. [16:16] How about KafuFFLe? [16:19] almost [16:19] if id cut the qscan and silkimp off [16:21] MSG: Ping timeout: 252 seconds [16:21] actually i dont think anything else there has a qscan, so it could stay [16:29] you know what? Kafuffle scores 153 wilkies, Kaf2 (with no imps) scores 152.6 [16:29] i think thats slightly good good, even if it gets only 400th slot on koen [17:18] this is redicilous [17:18] everything i do ends up being too good [17:26] jeez, metcalf is having a long disconnect.. 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