[07:56] hrm. [07:56] how goes all. [08:06] that good eh? [09:20] hrm. [09:21] * bvowk turns on some loud finnish death metal to wake everyone u [09:21] p [10:33] Join: Nenad joined #corewars [10:35] * Nenad was awaken by bvowkies loud Finnish death metal [11:29] hrm. [11:29] how goes? [11:35] well [11:35] u? [11:35] and why death metal, for the love of ktuhlu.... :P I mean, that's like... one of the few metal genres that I *don't* listen to. [11:39] I mean... well, if I were in Finland... [11:39] I'd certainly listen to some other bands [11:40] Apocalyptica, Nightwish... (actually, most metal bands *are* from up north, but I'm not sure which is from which country, so there are certainly more good ones, it's just that I'm a bit ignorant) [11:53] heh [12:01] in flames? [12:01] no finnish, but most eggselent. [12:12] yeeeesssss... I no nothing about them, sorry :) [12:12] I've never even heard of "melodic death metal" (as Wikipedia claims) [12:12] * Nenad is uninformed [12:13] but their name sounds like some corewar warrior, so it can't be that bad... [12:13] lol :P [12:20] heh [12:20] one of my faves :) [12:30] and, how is it exactly that you came to be where you are now? [12:30] I got on a plane, and then another plane, and then another plane [12:30] You might've mentioned something, but it must've been loaded into one of the bad sectors in my brain [12:30] that sounds reasonable [12:30] better than walking and swimming [12:30] :) [12:31] though that would probably shape you up [12:31] but it really came about because HWMNBM was complaining about problems, and I told him "you're doing it wrong!" so he said, well you come fix it then asshole! [12:31] but then all the girls would want to date you and you wouldn't want to do corewar any more, so it is a bad thing [12:31] so I got a contracting gig [12:31] heh [12:31] for how long [12:31] actually, I'm in pretty good shape, and I still play corewars.. [12:31] 'til you "fix it" [12:32] I've got 59 days 18 hours left in my contract [12:32] the thing he was complaining about was fixed in the first two weeks ;) [12:32] it must be pretty ... well, not the best of contracts if you're counting hours :P [12:32] the last 2 weeks haven't been fun. [12:32] but it was pretty good before that. [12:33] @shape - seems as if I'll be publishing a paper called: Bvowk's Paradox [12:34] yeah.. I've been hanging out with bodybuilders and power lifters while I've been here.. [12:37] Join: fiveop joined #corewars [12:37] * bvowk gives fiveop a fiver for beer [12:37] hi [12:37] * fiveop doesn't drink [12:38] what? [12:38] thanks anyway ;) [12:38] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KxwhKl5g0I8 [12:38] you're in england and you're not going to drink their tasty brews? :( [12:38] nope [12:38] (can I have your share? ;)) [12:38] as long as you pay for it :P [12:39] hrm. [12:39] well, since I just gave you a fiver for beer, that seems hardly fair. [12:40] * bvowk was recently in Gibraltar, and actually has a fiver in his pocket right now! [12:40] :) [12:40] * Nenad doesn't like beer that much [12:40] :P [12:40] * Nenad says hu to fiveop [12:40] *hi [12:41] hi :) [12:42] Now I have to say hi to some work :/ [12:42] :( [12:42] that was a fast visit. [12:42] whatcha working on? [12:43] lecture notes, exercises [12:43] making or reading [12:43] I feel like going for a run :/ [12:43] reading [12:43] or rather making clean copies [12:43] reading is involed in the process :P [12:43] +v [12:44] I need to make some tonight [12:44] where exactly where you from again? [12:44] I wish I could make copies of myself and then reintegrate them later.. [12:44] that'd make things so much handier.. [12:45] who? [12:45] me? [12:45] but it would likely kill me on the grocery bill.. one of me eats more than I like to pay for. [12:45] or me? [12:45] well, copy the food along the way [12:45] I think that would violate the laws of thermodynamics.. [12:45] or just eat, split, merge, eat, split, merge, eat, split, merge... [12:46] that should resolve the issue [12:46] Nenad: yes you [12:47] heh [12:47] Serbia [12:50] I remembered roughly the region [12:50] so you're right at the heart of the probably most interesting thing happening in europe in the last few month [12:51] exactly :) [12:51] actually, it's :( :( :( [12:51] but, hey. nothing I can do about it... [12:51] MSG: Read error: Operation timed out [12:51] except probably leave, but that'll have to wait for a foew months at least. [12:51] on the other hand, I've got free comedy on TV every day [12:52] what exactly do you find sad? [12:52] interesting times aren't always good times. [12:52] LOL. yes, it must not be apparent from "out of context" [12:52] * Nenad says bvowk is once again right [12:52] well... [12:52] firstly, [12:53] our politicians are quite ... a thing to make anyone ... sad ... actually, angry, not sad, but those are details now [12:53] the economy is once again falling apart [12:53] natinalistic s.o.b.-s everywhere [12:54] and no one is paying attention to the people, just the borders on the f***ing map [12:54] that's my narrow point of view [12:54] where's you're university exactly? [12:54] and the visa regime is such that I can hardly travel anywhere now [12:54] Novi Sad, up north, near Hungary [12:55] not near Kosovo, luckily [12:55] though it doesn't make much difference atm [12:55] * pak21 is aware you're asking about a pet name really :- [12:55] is the visa stuff, due to the cutting of foreign relations to several countries? [12:55] Ooops. Wrong keystroke in wrong window. Please ignore. [12:55] yes [12:55] but more due to burning down some embassies [12:56] which was organized by some of the political parties [12:56] even though they deny it [12:56] the news went rather quite about it, since the end of feb here [12:56] quiet? [12:56] I think quiet is correct [12:56] pak21: that sounds like it was an interesting conversation.. you should give us some context ;) [12:56] bvowk: :) [12:57] well, I guess people just stopped paying attention to the bullshit here :) [12:57] but the government is about to fall [12:57] yours? [12:57] next week, certainly [12:57] yup [12:57] and there is a real danger of the guys from the past entering the stage [12:57] from the 90s and the civil wars from back then [12:58] and then - we're in some deeeeep **** [12:58] you should keep old guys sedated so they don't wander like that. [12:58] * Nenad is not happy with the news [12:58] but, as I've said [12:58] bvowk: someone in #nethack was talking about a pet cat named Garfield and I said "It belongs to Jon". Not very interesting really :-) [12:58] all I can do is be upset, not much I can achieve to change anything [12:59] @pak21 cats are always interesting [12:59] :P [12:59] at least my cat says so [12:59] how long till you've finished you're degree? [12:59] cats > dogs [12:59] pak: ok, just so long as we don't have to worry about you chatting up the ladies and losing interest in corewars ;) [12:59] :P [13:00] well, all exams - done - just the graduation thesis left (already done, but I have to write the paper) [13:00] it goes a bit slower 'cause I'm working now [13:00] at the university? [13:00] nope [13:00] one of the local software companies [13:00] nothing much, but not that bad [13:01] no complaints there :) [13:01] :) [13:02] how about you? [13:02] how is it going over there? [13:02] Join: Mizcu joined #corewars [13:02] it's stressful [13:02] a lot of learning to do [13:02] but it's also rewarding :) [13:02] :) [13:02] hi Mizcu [13:03] and back home the most interesting thing happening w.r.t. politics are some new party coallition constellations [13:03] hmmm... [13:04] the development over the next few decades will be interesting to follow ... [13:04] yes [13:04] "interesting" being the key word [13:04] I mean really ... it's so funny to see how much all the politicans are whining at home [13:05] and if you look at international comparisons ... we're so well of it's ridiculous [13:05] yes :) [13:05] but you can always do better [13:05] and I guess that is the point [13:05] with reasonable politics [13:05] always striving for progress [13:06] that's why I'd throw all of "our" politicians in a tar pit and walk away [13:06] they have good wages, they steal, and *they* decide that we should "all make sacrifices" [13:06] and nothing changes [13:07] at least not for the better [13:07] what kind of noteworthy parties do you've got? [13:08] w.r.t. to influence [13:08] well... [13:08] SRS = serbian radical party (the name says it all) - most popular (/me trembles in fear) [13:08] then [13:09] DS = democratic party [13:09] DSS = democratic party of Serbia - nationalists, democratic version of SRS [13:09] NS - new Serbia - the worst primitives [13:09] SPS - socialists [13:09] (the old time gang) [13:09] and LDP - liberals [13:10] with their windows constantly smashed and denoted as "gay" [13:10] because they support human rights [13:10] and freedoms [13:10] how can you put the word radical in you're party name ... [13:10] what are the DS like? [13:11] maybe they're surfers.. and they're like a *RADICAL* party d00d [13:11] they are... [13:11] they like to be in the government and act neutraly [13:12] in other words, with all the sh** going on, they keep quiet [13:12] and pretend it isn't happening [13:12] it this the party from the 'tadic' person? [13:12] yes [13:12] I have no good words for him :) [13:12] he has no courage and no vision [13:13] How difficult would it be to establish another party? [13:13] Djindjic was the only true democrate we had recently, and he was assasinated [13:13] well... [13:13] we have many parties [13:13] too many [13:13] i've just mentioned the ones that are in the parliament [13:14] I should've said something along the lines [13:14] I've no idea what the average infrastructure is like in serbia [13:15] especially when it comes to media [13:15] infrastructure? oh, that. the media are biased. formally independent, objectively, well - you know how it goes... [13:15] Kosovo this, Kosovo that, blah blah [13:15] just a few free media [13:15] and they are under constant pressure [13:16] internet regulated in any way? [13:17] no [13:17] they're still too backward to do that :) [13:17] heh [13:17] but probably not accessed by many? [13:18] that's something we've got ... constant traffic not monitoring but at least archiving ... [13:18] true, younger people in the cities - a lot, the rest of the people, especially older ones - nope [13:19] that's where the time will change a lot [13:19] I mean at some point, there just won't be any people left, not grown up with the internet :) [13:21] yes [13:21] that's positive [13:22] but the whole system is... no, too much philosophy involved, people here are largely - brainwashed by the media and the system [13:22] ever since we were kids, we were being tought about Kosovo being everything [13:22] so the reaction is hardly surprising [13:23] that's why we need compulsory international sport events for every living child [13:23] that's stupid, I know [13:24] * pak21 returns from meeting [13:24] I mean the kosovo is a place, serbia conquered at some point in history right? (and especially won a some sort of battle, iirc) [13:25] pak21: which meeting? [13:25] Nenad: and [13:25] Work-type meeting... [13:25] @fiveop not really [13:25] what then? [13:25] it's much funnier than that [13:25] it's the place where we had *lost* the biggest battle in our history [13:25] bvowk: no need for me to chat up the ladies as I'm getting married in 29 days :-))))) [13:25] but we're errrr... proud of it [13:25] ridiculous [13:26] * Nenad congratulates to pak21 [13:26] ok [13:26] 29 days [13:26] and it was an integral part of the original state long time ago, it wasn't conquered in wars [13:27] ok [13:27] just read over the wikipedia page on the history [13:27] oh [13:27] :P\ [13:28] hrm. [13:28] hrm [13:29] hr [13:29] Nick Change: fiveop changed nick to pms51 [13:29] now I'm using my cambridge acronym too! :P [13:30] pms? [13:30] Mine stopping working a few years ago... (at least the official bit) [13:30] what does pms stand for? [13:30] my name? [13:30] oh [13:30] :) [13:31] the first thing that cam to my head was: "post menstrual syndrome", but that didn't make any sense [13:31] so pak21 has a middle name starting with a which he doesn't include in the one he's providing the irc client :P [13:31] nope :) [13:31] but other people here mentioned that ... [13:31] how's it that it comes to your mind .... [13:32] Bah. mcr.magd is down, so I can't get photos of pms51 :-) [13:32] Nick Change: pms51 changed nick to fiveop [13:32] mcr.magd? [13:32] there are no photos of me on there [13:32] you've to go to facebook I'm afraid :P [13:33] facebook? [13:33] no, noooo... [13:33] :) [13:33] what? [13:33] Google for pms51 and it's top of the list (although a little bit more reading shows the album is empty) [13:33] yes [13:33] I accidently pushed a button labeled 'my album' and there it was :P [13:34] some people I know made me make a profile at facebook. all those applications... I rarely go there :) [13:35] I basically use it as another way of sending messages [13:35] pak21: which college have you been in? [13:36] 15% of cam.ac.uk's (non-spam) incoming mail is from people prodding each other on Facebook. [13:36] Trinity Hall, although I pretended to be at King's for my PhD :-) [13:36] why? [13:36] More free alcohol :-) [13:36] trinity hall's got some accomodation right across the street I'm living in [13:37] Yes, but all their grad accommodation sucks. [13:37] I'm okay with mine [13:37] but no one who saw it, really thought so :P [13:38] it's just small ... on no ... [13:38] -n+h [13:40] hrm. [13:43] hi bvowk [13:43] how's finland [13:43] hello [13:43] it's alright [13:43] :) [13:43] two warm? [13:43] it's not so painfully dark anymore [13:43] what's the temperature there, anyway? [13:43] I mean, about now [13:43] pretty much right around zero all the time [13:44] and has been the whole time I've been ehre pretty much [13:44] I guess that's t-shirt weather for you :P [13:45] heh [13:45] not quite.. [13:45] it's already been approximately 17-18 degrees here this month [13:45] but it's colder now [13:45] :P [13:45] heh, well, Canadian winters... [13:45] I went to spain for two weeks at the start of last month.. that was excelent. [13:45] it was -45C w/ windchill then at home.. [13:45] very nice to be on the other side of the world. [13:46] eh, Spain. I'd like to go there for the summer someday. [13:46] I think I'd melt in the summer. [13:46] the winter seemed about right tho [13:46] where did you go? [13:46] Barcelona? [13:46] Malaga [13:46] oh [13:46] ok [13:46] :) [13:47] it was really nice [13:47] although, good lord driving is insane there. [13:47] ?? [13:47] and the ministry of transportation is obviously also the ministry of recreation crack smoking. [13:47] lol [13:49] :) [13:49] never been to spain [13:49] I will be in the pyrenees in about two weeks [13:49] it was the land of british expats.. the whole place was brits.. [13:49] I'd say they outnumbered the natives an easy 2:1 [13:52] do you speak frensh? [13:53] I barely do a passable english, and it's my native language. [13:53] No, I speak english and l33t [13:54] :) [13:55] so.. I've got this box filled w/ 16 15k rpm sas disks on a sas board that'll do 1.5GB/s throughput... [13:55] I never knew IO could be so sweet until now. [13:55] hmhm [13:55] :) [13:56] it's running in a nice raid0 stripe too :) [13:56] is 1.5GB/s during concurrent writing and reading [13:56] yes.. [13:57] it'll do about 1.3GB/s sustained sequential IO [13:57] nice [13:57] I wish I had more single thread speed to go with it.. [13:58] * Nenad thinks bvowk is greedy :P [13:58] hey.. I've got alot of work to get done in a short amount of time ;) [13:58] you, not your computer :) well, probably both of you, but still :) [13:59] scary tho.. the disks cost more than the two compute boxes, the bulk file server and the database box [13:59] I've got a 1600MHz pc here, 2Gb RAM. and it has to do complicated algorithms on tons of data [13:59] * Nenad feels sorry for his machine and things that he is going to do to it [14:00] I prolly have more ram that you had disk in that dinosaur [14:00] * bvowk ducks! [14:00] quite possibly [14:00] * Nenad anticipated ducking and did a sweep kick instead [14:00] :P [14:01] heh [14:01] anyway.. I have to say that the disk was worth the money. [14:01] you always have computer power :) we are lucky you don't evolve more dangerous things than cw warriors on your machines, we'd all be dead by now :) [14:01] even tho there was crazy finnish computer tax on them.. [14:01] and they cost more than 2x more than they would have back home [14:02] how do you know I'm not just simulating you now? [14:02] what do you need them for? [14:02] on the contrary [14:02] I know that you are [14:02] uahahaha [14:02] :) [14:03] you simulated me, but I becam self-aware [14:03] and now - it's payback time [14:03] :P [14:03] this is a database server that's feeding a bunch of boxes that render massive amounts of GIS data in a manner that is pleasing to the eye [14:04] payback time? oo! you gunna buy a round? ;) [14:04] :P [14:04] GIS data? [14:04] oh [14:04] what kind of company? [14:04] what is it used for? [14:05] online services mostly [14:05] company? [14:05] :P [14:06] yeah.. prolly shouldn't ;) [14:06] it's where HWMNBM works [14:06] who's HWMNBM/ [14:06] he wrote exhaust :) [14:07] he'll yell at me for putting his personal information out on the intarwebs. [14:07] he can rest assured that HWMNBM will probably be not information to track him down [14:08] especially if you're already to lazy to copy&paste it into google [14:08] heh [14:08] anyways.. think google maps, except without the whole world, and the coolness [14:09] so [14:09] just finish coolness? :P [14:11] no, it's not even that cool. [14:12] but it's ok, that's why I'm here! [14:12] ok, I have to go [14:12] * Nenad waves [14:12] cu [14:13] MSG: [14:13] it likely won't be much cooler when I'm done.. but it should be insanely fast compared to before.. [14:14] if you can't be cool, you can at least be orders of magnitude faster and parallelizable. [14:15] don't you have some female attachement [14:15] indeed I do. [14:46] so how goes the study of math five? [14:46] well enough [14:47] what are you studying again? [14:47] numerology? [14:47] * bvowk ducks. [14:47] ... [14:48] hrm.. I don't suspect that's funny to you.. [14:48] sorry.. inside joke ;) [14:48] so it's not really like leaving home then? [14:48] I study to become the ultimate human thinking machine [14:48] no [14:48] :) [14:48] well [14:48] except the beer is british and the cooking is bland? [14:49] I don't talk a lot with my german peers :P [14:49]