[00:33] MSG: Quit: Trillian (http://www.ceruleanstudios.com [06:21] Join: Mizcu joined #corewars [06:22] Hi Mizcu [06:23] i know it snowed 5cm during last 2 days, but the buses cant be that fucked up by the schedule [06:24] i went to bus stop 3 minutes late, still hopeful expecting that the bus will be delayed 5 by the weather [06:24] waited for 6, nothing came, so i expected it had come by time [06:24] you can probably guess what i saw when coming back home [06:30] (well, they dont switch to winter tires, UK drivers would want hazard pay in these conditions) [06:46] If there's a few cm of snow the buses are cancelled. [06:47] Very annoying if I'm a few miles from home. I had to walk 4 miles in the snow once because the bus was cancelled and lost money on the return ticket :-( [06:48] It wouldn't be so bad if I knew, but I wait 30 minutes first [08:31] Join: sh0ne joined #corewars [08:31] Howdy [08:37] Hi Sh0ne [11:51] MSG: Quit: Swallowed by Supermassive Black Hole [11:53] Join: CoreOld joined #corewars [12:07] MSG: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [12:24] Join: Altair joined #corewars [12:25] hi [12:28] hi [12:36] can anyone tell me what's the basic problem of this bomber is? http://pastebin.com/m677199d7 and are there more ..."guides" about bombers except: http://corewar.co.uk/cw/cw007.txt ? [12:37] you shouldnt use separate instructions for steps and addr1 [12:37] and you should start at bomb, not where you currently do [12:38] you can store the steps's values in the bomb [12:40] I know i can start at spl, but....well, the processes cause also, that a few bombs arent bombed at the wished cell? [12:41] resistance against bombs against couple lots bombs here and there - i think thats a good deal [12:41] and you could just move the add downwards if thats still an issue [12:41] youll instead just overbomb some instructions two times [12:41] (every spl-run stone has the problem, well, maybe with exception of evoltmp) [12:41] k [12:42] I'll try it [12:51] mm...........now I had too change the clear of course....mm............the bomber gets weaker......should I start a worm, too,......like Bluefunk? [12:52] its not a worm, theres a difference between a worm and imp-spiral [12:53] i dont really like combining a spl-bomber with a spiral, but it has worked quite well in past [12:53] mm..............so a dat bomber would be a better idea? [12:54] you dont seem to like spl bomber too much [12:54] just keep working with what you have, dont care about my opinions on tactics [12:56] but Im interested in your opinion ;P. I just tought of the spl because I dont want to totally lose against papers [12:57] Vain was a splbomber -> dclear and it was the strongest warrior of its era [13:00] (and it had a spiral too) [13:11] MSG: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [13:11] I read this: http://corewar.co.uk/chapter2.txt and now Im wondering, why the bombers are..mm....slower than I expected? [13:12] because you are watching horribly ancient warriors [13:12] .5c is the average choice nowadays [13:13] ^^ [13:18] what is a good example of a bomber. I mean, JUST a bomber. not that special stuff here and there, etc. so I can understand it, too :D [13:19] juliet storm [13:19] should be at '94nop [13:22] thx [13:22] if its still a little on the difficult side, just say and ill try to dig my memory for something even simpler [13:23] k, thanks [13:26] mm...i decrements more than bombing o.o [13:27] *it [13:32] I dont really get the meaning of the two spl # [13:34] a) bad process balancing, two splits required to get it run properly [13:34] on the other side, the heavy splitting makes it possible to be combined with paper [13:35] b) when the bombing mov is run by the last time before coreclearing, the instruction is mov {-1, 2 [13:35] so its a sacrifice in order to get a decrement in the attack, while still having it work properly [13:35] (well, why doesnt it use spl #1, <-446 then? probably combination of those all) [13:37] mm.......but the bomb speed isnt that high? [13:38] well, no [13:38] i remembered it being .5c but seems i was wrong [13:40] decrements arent bombs xD.........and that mov {445-1, -445+2 .......well.........I still have my doubts about using in/dekrement within the mov [13:41] no decrements in juliet -> makes no decoys for scanners [13:42] if you are going to use transposition (= mov -nnn, mmm ), you need some increment/decrement [13:44] mm..........okay, thx [14:02] Join: Metcalf joined #corewars [14:16] cu [14:16] MSG: [14:42] stuck to smmd.. [14:43] reb00t [14:52] Have you thought about mimicking natural disasters in your evolver? [14:54] Yace panics if warriors are removed in-run [14:54] and there is no cross-breeding [14:56] and modifying Yace to coretree -model (you know, the one i spoke about.. 1.5 years? ago) would be kinda big project [15:02] I wrote this if anyone wants to use it anywhere http://corewar.co.uk/article.htm [15:08] ...i still have a bug somewhere.. [15:08] evolver_remove_rate = 0.00 , but still a line has got lost somewhere in the evolution [16:12] *blink* [16:12] i just found where my "lost lines of code" were [16:13] or they used to be [16:18] Join: Big_Jk joined #corewars [16:18] MSG: Client Quit [16:35] Join: Fluffy joined #corewars [16:36] :) [16:36] hi Floss [16:36] * Fluffy reduces Mizcu's oxygen supply to zero. [16:38] unfortunately i hate mirc colors enough not to bother giving a blue sadlie [16:49] Join: Altair joined #corewars [16:49] hi [16:51] Hi Altair :) [17:01] Hi :-) [17:13] --_--_-- [17:14] ah, i didnt screw that one up [17:15] almost thought that i screw up the imp-filter [17:30] Metcalf: actually.. i mentioned about how the hill has become more and more food for the Cosmic in recent days [17:32] I read the nanowarrior again for the third time, and realised that none of Bvowk's published top warriors dont follow the same schema [17:33] And he's top warrior follows 79cd -schema so its not either of the same [18:12] 150 broken, although its nothing special [18:14] MSG: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [18:15] Join: Metcalf joined #corewars [18:19] Join: Davse_Bam joined #corewars [18:34] 158.8 but not really original.. [18:34] think its time to funk up the benchmark [18:44] Join: Fizmo joined #corewars [18:45] hi hi [18:45] h [18:49] Hi Fizmo [18:49] Hi John [18:50] hi [18:53] Hi Altair [19:13] White Moon = new Koth on Koenigstuhl :-) Congrats Fluffy [19:19] Join: Big_Jk joined #corewars [19:20] Hi [19:21] h [19:22] Hi Jk [19:24] Hi John [19:32] MSG: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [19:35] Hi Fizmo. Hi John! [19:35] Metcalf: Thanks, but it seems to be easier to become koth on nano@Koenigstuhl than on infinano ;-) [19:35] Hi Fluffy [19:36] ... and I'm far more interested in how TAoCW does on 94nop@Koenigstuhl [19:37] Probably because infinano is a flat hill, so the score against the wierd stuff that never made it onto the hill has the same weight [19:38] hi Fluffy [19:39] Metcalf: Maybe, but just for the fun of it I could generate a nano-warrior just for ruling infinano [19:40] Unfortunately it won't be koth for a very long time. [19:40] Just after a new submission to infinano it will fail its master ;-) [19:47] Hmmm... Fluffy, the spiders crept has a 1.7 point lead on infinano. The challenge is to get a 1.7 lead on the spiders crept :-P [19:55] MSG: Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.84 [Firefox 3.0.4/2008102920] [19:57] hmm [19:57] maybe I should add an "Offensive Factor" [19:57] "Devensive Penalty" [20:02] MSG: Quit: Read error: Connection reset by peer [20:34] 589 downloads of nanoWarrior #3 so far [20:39] Join: sh0ne joined #corewars [20:39] MSG: Client Quit [20:40] Join: sh0ne joined #corewars [20:41] MSG: Client Quit [20:42] Hmmm... someone tried to load nanoWarrior issue 0 and 4 by URL hacking :-) [20:44] cool ;-) [20:44] :-) [20:44] Quick visit [20:44] John? [20:44] ? :-) [20:44] what do you think about a "Defensive Penalty" [20:45] if more than 25% ties the warrior get a penalty on the score [20:47] is there a way to globally center all text inside a table? [20:48] MSG: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [21:17] MSG: Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.84 [Firefox 3.0.4/2008102920] [21:19] Join: Metcalf joined #corewars [21:19] To be a fair penalty, it has to be automatic. E.g. order all warriors by average ties, and subtract nothing from the one with least ties, one point from the warrior with second least, two points from the next, etc [21:20] Join: elkauka joined #corewars [21:21] Hi Elkauka [21:25] hiho [21:27] Fizmo: td, th {text-align: center} [21:45] Join: sh0ne joined #corewars [21:45] Hi [21:46] Hi [21:46] Hi Sh0ne [21:46] Are you working on anything interesting? [21:58] Don't have much time these days, Met, since I got the job..12h is my shift, six days a week :( I barely see my own folks, or they are working or I work. I met up with my girlfriend every third day :( I have some warriors made by my friend and me, and we plan to release it on our own domain brokenbyte.org when we got the time... [22:05] I remember what it used to be like working far to many hours. No-one used to understand I couldn't do stuff because of work. I'd have to work then I'd get moaned at about it at home! [22:09] Part: Fluffy left #corewars [22:16] MSG: [22:41] MSG: Quit: Swallowed by Supermassive Black Hole [23:23] MSG: Quit: blaaaarghhh