[00:15] MSG: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [00:36] MSG: Quit: Leaving [07:10] MSG: [07:22] Join: sh0ne joined #corewars [07:22] Hi [07:22] hi [07:44] Join: Mannerisk joined #corewars [08:11] Join: Metcalf joined #corewars [08:11] Hi :-) [08:14] hey metcalf [08:16] just realized that I've been in this channel for a month and have yet to submit a warrior [08:46] Join: fiveop joined #corewars [09:05] Mannerisk: what are you waiting for? [09:07] MSG: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [09:32] Join: sh0ne joined #corewars [10:29] MSG: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [10:53] Join: sh0ne joined #corewars [12:54] MSG: Remote host closed the connection [16:19] Join: flyduck joined #corewars [16:19] hi [16:32] h [16:35] Hi flyduck, Mizcu [16:59] hrm. [17:01] .hrm [17:07] MSG: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [17:31] Join: elkauka joined #corewars [17:39] * bvowk grumbles about SF never coming around. [17:51] popquiz: what happens if you execute the following line: ldp.b #0, >0 [17:51] extrapoints if you can tell me where the postincrement went [18:23] when you use > or < will it +/- by 1, or by the value thats in that field ? [18:23] +/- 1 [18:40] what modifier would you put on an ADD to make it add it's a-field to both the a and b field of the instruction specified in its b field ? [18:40] .F ? [18:41] none [18:42] (it cant be done) [18:42] hm, isnt the code in the .66c scanner loop incorrect in this then? http://corewar.co.uk/scanner.htm [18:43] it says scan ADD inc, ptr | ptr SNE start+hop, start | JMP scan [18:43] it adds a&b to a&b [18:43] but since the ADD is only adding to the b-field of the ptr instruction, isnt it always just comparing start+hop with the next thing ? [18:43] it just happens that the a&b are stored in a different instruction [18:44] its adds an instruction into another; if you compile that code, it becomes a add.f $xxx, $zzz [18:45] you are thinking in terms of "add.f #xxx, $yyy", which doesnt work with the results you thought it would [19:59] if you have multiple processes running and one executes a dat will the whole program lose? [20:00] no [20:00] all processes have to die [20:12] Join: Fizmo joined #corewars [20:12] hi hi [20:14] hey fiz [20:16] hi bvowk [20:16] how's it going? [20:18] It goes. [20:18] It's cold and ugly here. [20:18] here also [20:33] MSG: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [21:12] will the command 's10' in the pMARS debugger step 10 steps ? [21:13] yes [21:14] how come the command 's' 10 times doesnt have the same effect >_< [21:15] give s once, then just hit enter [21:15] if i do 's' once and hit enter 9 times, it's different than doing s10 [21:15] is the thing [21:16] hmm [21:17] MSG: Quit: blaaaarghhh [21:17] my mind isnt really working right now [21:18] mine neither, nothing im doing today is making sense >_< [21:34] what do the numbers 0 - 4 indicate in pmars, when i hit one of them the display seems to change but what is it doing?> [21:36] you are using the SDL-pmars? [21:36] the one with green graphics? [21:36] it changes the graphics level [21:37] 4 = show all 3 = moves, adds, no compares 2= dunno, havent tested 1= dont care, havent needed to test [21:39] Join: nescience joined #corewars [21:39] ahh ok [21:42] Join: Metcalf joined #corewars [21:42] Hi :-) [21:44] metcalf: logs, minutes 17 this hour [21:44] im too stiff to think right now [21:47] dammit i accidentally altf4'd the wrong window [21:52] hi hi [21:55] Does anyone know anything about the ICWT 1991 tournament? [21:57] umm [22:05] * Fizmo waves [22:06] MSG: Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.84 [Firefox 3.0.4/2008102920] [22:06] MSG: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [22:16] I stopped writing when I realized that no new written code will top a hill [22:17] That's not true [22:17] and decided it wasn't particularly worth taking old code and hitting go on an optimizer [22:17] oh? I thought there are 3 + 6 programs that work? [22:17] paper, rock, scissors, and pick 2 [22:18] There's lots of different ways to implement the same strategy, and some haven't been discovered yet [22:18] Scissors has hundreds of different implementations [22:19] There's different ways to scan, attack and then finish off the opponent [22:20] hrm [22:22] my understanding is sure you can attach an airbag or such, but it is just combining the pre-written elements [22:22] the best dwarf has already been discovered, there isn't a lot to improve on a quick scan, etc. [22:23] How come Q^Bob, Q^I and Qslowscan scores better than Q^4.5, when there is nothing to improve? [22:24] I'm not familiar with those; how much better and were they written by hand? [22:24] all by hand [22:25] couple points, which is a lot for a qscan [22:26] Join: NorthStar joined #corewars [22:26] hi [22:26] Hi Northstar [22:27] Are you working on any corewar stuff? [22:27] By the way, does anyone here have a blog or use twitter? [22:27] Not at the moment. I'm trying to install FreeBSD 6.4 via lanboot on my laptop. [22:28] Mannerisk: if it was just a case of recombining prewritten elements and optimizing, we'd have got bored of it years ago. [22:29] I'd imagine [22:30] so how do you go about creating new things under the sun? [22:31] i try to do it by walking around in circles at 3am [22:31] it almost works [22:33] Join: flyduck joined #corewars [22:34] hai [22:34] I just read lots of code then play around writing my own stuff, wondering if there's better ways to implement things [22:35] Hi Flyduck. Are you writing any warriors atm? [22:35] oh, kind of [22:36] im writing stuff in order to learn right now, just going off of other people's code and tutorials [22:36] nothing serious or worth paying attention to