[01:14] MSG: Quit: Leaving [04:59] MSG: Remote host closed the connection [05:00] Join: myndzi joined #corewars [07:08] MSG: [09:18] Join: fiveop joined #corewars [17:23] Join: Fizmo joined #corewars [17:51] Join: yoR joined #corewars [17:51] hi all [17:52] h [17:54] @Metcalf: Did you get a translation of the German PDF you posted two days ago? I could give it a shot if automatic translators fail :) [18:00] and if that fails, I can make sure it get's translated (how big is it? :P) [18:01] Yeah, you're probably better suited (or Fizzer for that matter) [18:03] on the other hand, the native english speakers could have a look at the idea of learning foreign languages :P [18:04] The text is very big, but also not very intresting (to me anyway, JM could be exilarated over such things) [18:05] what's the topic? [18:05] [00:42] http://www.forth-ev.de/filemgmt_data/files/4d1993_4.pdf - see pages 25-27, from a 1993 German Magazine [18:05] Corewars of course :) about a some warriors (mortar and gemini) [18:06] In england I had the impression that native speakers rarely spoke foreign languages (the SA people a bit of africaans, the canadians a bit of french), but people who where not native english speakers rarely spoke less then 3 languages in total [18:09] Lol at this part of the article: "Goetsch, Mauldin and Milazzo have analaysed MORTAR and concluded that a program larger then 7 instructions need to be self-healing to kill MORTAR" [18:09] That sounds like an incredible warrior ;-) [18:10] ;) [18:10] well [18:10] is a paper self-healing (by self replication)? :P [18:11] Well, my experience is that most people only speak one native language and maybe some English, not more... only the western upper european countries know more languages (Netherlands, Germans etc) even the French have a hard time speaking English or other languages (the older generation that is) [18:12] Most younger people connected to the internet will feel the urge to learn English though [18:13] * yoR rarely Googles something in Dutch... only English [18:13] in Finnish schools, around 40% of people go for fourth language [18:13] (Finnish, English, Sw***, nnn) [18:13] properly translating the whole article is a day worth of work I'd say .... [18:13] Yeah, here everybody gets Dutch (of course), English, German and French [18:14] fiveop: I think Google will translate it good enough for JM [18:14] ohh, hi hi [18:14] hi Roy [18:14] And some even go for a fifth language (Latin/Russian/Chinese/Japanese...) [18:14] hi Miz [18:15] hi 5op [18:15] it was german,latin,english,french for me [18:15] hi Fizmo [18:15] Note to fizmo: "hi all" is a bit shorter ;) [18:15] :-P [18:16] other popular languages (apart from english of course) are italian, spanish and russian (especially in the eastern parts) [18:16] what about japanese and chinese? (which I can speak a bit) [18:16] For me mostly Dutch/English... some German and French, but I wasn't good at foreign languages, and I've learned some Italian this year [18:16] ;-) [18:16] I'd say they are rarely taught in schools [18:17] my japanese consists of some mini sentences learn from while watching anime with english subtitles :p [18:17] well, here on some school you can choose nowadays Chinese [18:17] but I'd wager that less then 1% of the schools in germany give you that option [18:18] -give you+provide you with [18:18] Spanish is growing a bit, and because we have a lot of Turkish and Marrocan people in Holland its becomming more populair too [18:18] hmm, I don't know [18:18] I'm currently relearning french [18:18] I just talked two times about languages at school the past year [18:18] after that ... perhaps japanese :P [18:18] Je ne parle pas francias.. [18:18] and both times they provide chinese [18:18] c'est pas frais, yoR ;) [18:19] beside english, french and russian [18:19] yay, posted two new warriors on r.g.c. [18:19] :-P [18:19] evidemment [18:20] -frais+vrai .. [18:20] I suppose i've still got some learning to do ... [18:20] I'd rather learn Scala, Clojure or maybe Erlang... [18:21] but thinking back, when I first came to this channel I still had problems expressing myself in a satisfyingly fast way in english ;) [18:21] * yoR too, but I was like 14 at the time [18:21] I've been comming here for a looong long time [18:22] I don't really think, that learning programming languages is that complicated after you got your first few (provided you looked into a diverse set regarding paradigms) [18:23] brx brought me here [18:23] Well, some languages are closely related, some aren't... but the ones I mentioned shouldn't be very hard (maybe Erlang is a bit different) [18:23] never heard of clojure [18:23] and only remember reading the word scala somewhere in the context [18:24] Clojure and Erlang are both (correct me if I'm wrong!) Actor-based [18:24] so they dont really do anything? [18:25] Which is a bit different to OO-based languages [18:26] reading a book from every literature noble prize laurate in its original language! :) [18:26] More message-minded programming.. [18:27] if anyone accomplishes that, he can basically speak every european language and some east asian ones [18:27] And read some good books ;) [18:28] I don't know that [18:28] I think the second laurate just wrote a four volume book about roman history in german ... might be a bit dry ;) [18:53] Has anybody here read the book "The Pig that wants to be Eaten"? [18:54] A friend of mine was talking about it, but I don't know it... [19:37] * yoR is off, bbl (maybe) [19:37] Nick Change: yoR changed nick to yoRGone [19:42] Join: flyduck joined #corewars [19:44] Join: Neogryzor joined #corewars [19:45] hi Neo [19:45] hi Fizmo, hi all [19:45] I see you have run the dynahill again today :) [19:45] yes :-) [19:46] good start with your new entry [19:46] thanks :D [19:48] looking how warriors go up and down i suspect the rankings could be "oscilating regularly"... [19:52] I explain: After a run, some warriors change their positions and fall, and when it is run again they return to their previous positions, ans so on [19:56] yeah, that's because not enough warriors on the hill [19:57] but somehow oscillation may always occure [19:58] It could be more probable in the dynahill because the opponents are different when a warriors is up or down [20:32] bbl [20:32] MSG: [20:32] ok [20:43] MSG: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [20:43] MSG: Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.84 [Firefox 3.0.5/2008120122] [20:45] MSG: Quit: humhum [22:37] MSG: Read error: Operation timed out [22:51] Join: flyduck joined #corewars [22:54] Join: NorthStar joined #corewars