[01:26] Join: NorthStar joined #corewars [01:42] Join: ZombieBoy joined #corewars [01:43] Hello guys. Just wondering if you knew about other games similar to corewars. Doing a research. [01:52] MSG: Quit: KVIrc 3.4.0 Virgo http://www.kvirc.net/ [02:03] MSG: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [02:57] Join: nescience joined #corewars [04:35] MSG: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [05:05] Join: nescience joined #corewars [08:04] Join: impomatic joined #corewars [08:04] Hi :-) [08:25] MSG: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [15:47] Join: impomatic joined #corewars [15:49] Hi :-) [16:07] Join: Fizmo joined #corewars [16:07] hi hi [16:09] Hi Christian :-) [16:09] Anything new? [16:13] updating infinite 94draft DynaHill [16:15] updated [16:16] * impomatic goes to look [16:16] ;-) [16:17] lots of p/i's have climbed [16:17] I updated 7 challenges [16:18] yes [16:18] and a lone scanner there [16:19] don't ask me why AitD [16:19] I expected more likely others than Attacker in the Darkness [16:20] recon 2 worse than PSwing? for heaven's.. [16:21] Lady Imperactive climbed up like a rocket [16:21] yeah, as less sensitive to stones as more high the rank [16:22] bombing scanner are also higher than normal one [16:23] SotBs got as high as 4th pair? yay [16:24] Champion 3 at challenege # 164 [16:26] it has a- and b- imps, right? [16:26] the anti-christ itself, hullab3 has been climbing too [16:26] yes [16:27] At least I have 2.5 warriors in the champions now [16:28] isnt CSEC the modified Recon 2 i used against Nenad? or was the the last of second-elimination tournament? [16:29] because it suspiciously high considering how much memories i have about it [16:30] although it scores like lady ?:/ [16:30] yes, I think it's from the tournament [16:31] it's not a scanner but a stone/paper [16:31] looks hullabaloo-stylish [16:32] gimme the source [16:32] http://www.corewar.info/tournament/cwset2005/quarter/csec.red [16:33] non-suicidal quicksilver with moore-paper [16:34] I've finished the first version of Redcode Forth, http://tr.im/h35K [16:34] so i was correct about against Nenad, wrong about the warrior i used [16:35] i gotta benchmark it, actually.. [16:35] If I get any feedback / suggestions, I'll probably undate it and make a second version. [16:36] (145 wilfiz without qscan) [16:37] not bad [16:37] maelstrom 150 with qscan [17:19] Hmmm... [17:22] My 8086 code for IEEE multiplication is more accurate than my processor. The processor rounds incorrectly about 1 time in 3 billion [17:23] Wrong channel! [17:25] MSG: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [17:26] Join: ZombieBoy joined #corewars [17:28] gridwars, C-robots [17:29] back online soon [17:29] MSG: Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.84 [Firefox 3.0.6/2009011913] [17:30] Hi ZombieBoy [17:30] Hello [17:31] I'm not sure if you've seen this yet - http://aiforge.net/game-links.htm [17:31] I used to play corewars a long time ago, I was just wondering if it was runningstill... [17:31] Unfortunately, it's just a long list. [17:31] Yes, still running :-) [17:31] How long ago? [17:32] Hmmm, 7 yers? [17:32] And how strong is corewars now a days? [17:33] a handful of coders, not much more [17:33] CW is not a game for the WoW-generation [17:34] The problem is it takes time to learn the game and time to write a warrior. [17:34] I think if I ran a tournament, I'd get about 50 players enter (if I email around). [17:35] Evolvers have got stronger in the last 7 years, there's new hills at SAL and the nano hill has been popular - coresize 80! [17:36] WoW was the first sign of the apocalypse. [17:36] ZombieBoy: did you say you're writing an article about programming games, or just researching? [17:36] Just researching. [17:36] As of now. [17:38] Join: nescience joined #corewars [17:39] I am really intereseted in AI and I was planning on applying it to evolv some CW warriors... [17:39] But I was wondering if there were other games similar to CW that I may also check. [17:39] :-) [17:40] I'm not really sure what to recommend. I've been going through that list myself too. [17:40] It would be better if it had a couple of definitive sites for each game listed in bold at the top, followed by the rest underneath. [17:40] That is a good list :) [17:41] If you look on twitter, there's lots of tweets about corewar. Here's the search - http://tr.im/h3ex [17:44] Pavel Savara (who wrote nMars) is currently working on software for RoboCode - http://zamboch.blogspot.com/search/label/Robocode [17:45] BF Joust is easy to learn and fun for a few hours - http://retrocode.blogspot.com/2009/02/bf-joust-hill.html [17:48] I like the robocode project, but it's not for me (seems too simple and I dislike java ;) ) [17:48] I loved the complexity, but at the same time, the simple things about CW. [17:54] I don't like Java [17:56] If you find anything interesting on that list, let me know :-) [17:57] I'll let you know. [17:57] I've started from the top and every so often I check out another. [18:01] Part: Mannerisk left #corewars [18:37] Join: Mannerisk joined #corewars [18:46] Hmmm... I've just realised posting several replies to my own post in r.g.cw reminds me of someone else! :-/ [18:50] Join: Fizmo joined #corewars [18:50] back [18:54] :-) [21:57] I haven't heard much about Grid Wars recently [22:00] Join: Cellzor joined #corewars [22:00] evening [22:01] Hi Cellzor [22:01] I'm really new to the corewar scene and wanted to know which client is the best available for windows =>? [22:02] Corewin or pMARS SDL [22:02] Depends whether you prefer using the command line (pMARS) or GUI (Corewin) [22:03] ok, so thats the "arena"? [22:03] There's some other decent software, but unfortunately less people use it so it's difficult to get help if you're stuck. [22:03] Yes, Corewar and pMARS are the arena [22:04] think ill go with corewin, i do also see "software to evolve warriors" [22:04] Both are linked from the blogpost in the topic [22:04] which client of those would u recommend? [22:05] I've played with Yace before. It's easy to get started and comes with a windows binary [22:05] ok ill try that then ^^^ [22:05] http://corewar.co.uk/ankerl/yace.htm [22:05] thx => [22:06] Yace is a standalone program. You might want to try evolving for the nano hill first, you'll get faster results :-) [22:07] nano hill = 80 cell arena. tiny hill = 800 cell arena. standard hill = 8000 cell arena [22:07] hm [22:07] k [22:07] There's a zip containing the Yace config file and benchmark for nano hill here: [22:07] http://corewar.co.uk/nano.htm [22:08] How did you discover corewar? :-) [22:08] although evolving has the person do very little, when not trying to optimize the evolver [22:08] my teacher was talking about it [22:09] so im checking it out ^^ [22:09] Oh! I wish I'd had a teacher who mentioned stuff like corewar. [22:09] do i have to put the nano hill in the same folder as i installed the Yace files? [22:10] The zip file should have a subfolder. The subfolder and the config file go in the same directory as Yace. The benchmark files should be in the subfolder [22:11] bechmark files are the *.RED ones i guess [22:11] It saves the best evolved warriors to the status folder. [22:11] Yes, *.RED [22:12] so my "root" corewars folder has now: subfolder from zip, config and yace_1.2 [22:13] i got that right or did u mean inside the yace folder :p? [22:14] subfolder from zip and config should be in Yace folder [22:14] aight then its right now ^^ [22:15] but um, yace builds its own warriors.. how do i code one :>? [22:15] Then just run it :-) The filenames in the status folder are the score. If it's 1500000.red or higher, it'll probably get on the hill. [22:16] You could start by reading Ilmari's Beginner's Guide to Redcode, linked from the post in the topic here [22:16] oh, ill do that [22:17] It'll probably take a couple of hours to learn Redcode. [22:17] ye i guess, happy reading inc ^^ [22:19] Any problems, just ask here. You might not get an answer straight away though. [22:19] oki, thx alot :> [22:23] this yace binary sure puts some stress on my cpu lol :p [22:25] Hi Cellzor [22:25] :-) [22:26] yo fizmo ^^ [22:26] yeah, your pc is busy in evolving more and more better warriors [22:26] ^^ [22:27] ok, it's late here. I'll go to bed now [22:27] ill just let it run while i read up on this guide ^^ [22:27] gn :> [22:27] have fun with Yace and cw [22:27] ty ^^ [22:27] * Fizmo waves [22:27] byebye [22:27] MSG: Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.84 [Firefox 3.0.6/2009011913] [22:28] * impomatic waves [22:32] back later :-) [22:32] cu ^^ [22:43] MSG: