[00:08] Join: impomatic joined #corewars [00:08] Hi :-) [02:03] MSG: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [02:11] Join: myndzi joined #corewars [05:21] MSG: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [06:04] Join: M0wLaue joined #corewars [06:28] Join: fiveop joined #corewars [06:39] MSG: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [06:43] MSG: Quit: humhum [07:16] Join: lllll joined #corewars [07:16] =O [07:16] Shutting down?! [07:19] Anyone here? [07:46] Part: lllll left #corewars [07:49] Join: lllll joined #corewars [07:57] Join: M0wLaue joined #corewars [07:58] Hiya [08:05] Hi lllll [08:13] Part: lllll left #corewars [08:28] Join: Altair joined #corewars [08:30] hi [08:36] Hi Altair [08:48] mm....a question again. KotH.org goes down........will there be an alternative/rehost/etc.? in r.g.c. someone seems to offer something like that; but its nothing definitely is it? [08:55] I don't know what will happen. I'm aware of 6 people who'd be willing to help. [08:56] There will definitely be some alternative, but it might not be a direct replacement. [08:57] It might be possible to host the hills on SAL using the SAL software. [09:13] MSG: Ping timeout: 240 seconds [12:18] Join: yoR joined #corewars [12:35] MSG: [12:49] Join: fiveop joined #corewars [12:59] Join: M0wLaue joined #corewars [13:52] Hmmm... [14:19] Join: eki joined #corewars [14:23] Hi Eki [14:26] hi : )) [14:27] I just started learning about corewars recently, so it's sad to see that koth.org is shutting down... [14:28] has anyone talked about taking it over to any extent, or is the whole thing just going to go away? [14:29] 09:55 < impomatic> I don't know what will happen. I'm aware of 6 people who'd be willing to help. [14:29] 09:56 < impomatic> There will definitely be some alternative, but it might not be a direct replacement. [14:29] Join: newton joined #corewars [14:29] 09:57 < impomatic> It might be possible to host the hills on SAL using the SAL software. [14:29] I presume something sane is happening to the domain name. [14:30] any chance the new freenode IRC channel will be logged? I find the logs most useful! [14:32] People have certainly been talking about it. I assume it will happen. [14:32] Hi John :-) (saw you talking in the log...) [14:33] Welcome to corewar pak21 hope you find it as fun as we do [14:34] You should probably look at some old Corewarriors :-p [14:35] got every issue :-) [14:35] So search for 'pak21' [14:35] Hi Terry. [14:36] It's difficult to get the freenode channel logged. [14:37] Apparently logging can be requested from freenode, but they rarely approve any. [14:37] Also there's some IRC logging services on the net. Ehird pointed me to one, which I signed up for, but then nothing happened. [14:37] Anyone else got any ideas. [14:37] sorry pak21 I meant eki (all these handles...) Welcome to corewar eki! [14:38] :-) [14:38] thanks : )) [14:39] if someone had a continuously running computer/server perhaps a bot could just record everything? [14:41] The problem is most colo AUPs don't allow IRC bots to be run on them, because they're used as zombie control bots. [14:41] Easier just to ban IRC bots altogether. [14:42] that's why it'd probably have to be someone's personal server... [14:43] off-line / post wouldn't be as useful then couldn't see what's going on before jumping on [14:43] (but would still be useful for recording the info... much good stuff in the logs!) [14:51] KOTH will be dearly missed. But much if not most of the information is available elsewhere [14:55] Tuc has given me permission to mirror the information. It won't be lost. [14:58] As an IRC newbie it sure is nice to monitor without having to log on... perhaps that's not [14:59] the spirit of IRC but we kind of all live on different continents, and I only log in [15:00] if the conversation is interesting or I can add.... but as with all things... adapt! [15:02] Well gotta go, got guitar amps to fix... bye all. [15:03] And thanks John for your good work! [15:05] MSG: Quit: Ex-Chat [15:08] Fixing a guitar amp sounds better that what I'm about to do :-( [15:09] My apple tree fell down last night. I need to sort it out. [15:09] Anyone for a chainsaw party? [16:26] Join: Fizmo joined #corewars [16:26] hi hi [16:28] Hi Fizmo :-) [16:29] hi John [16:38] is there any reason to boot something in the core backwards? [16:40] You mean store the code back to front in the original code? [16:41] if you start it with the first instruction it's more simple to do so [16:41] because your pointer is on the right place [16:44] ah, yes. btu no "real" reason? [16:47] no, just because it's more easy to do [16:47] Occasionally is can save an instruction [16:48] every instruction less make you also less vulnerable [16:48] E.g. if you're booting an imp launcher and a stone and both begin with a spl #0,0 you can boot one backward and save 1 instruction [16:48] Although there's probably a better way to do that ;-) [16:50] mm.........how long would it take for you to write a bomber which scores better than 140 against wilkies? I guess fast. [16:55] huuh [16:56] depending if I want to make something unique or not [16:56] but at least for me it would take a day or two [16:57] nothing unique. Im just a little bit angry about myself. I write a few bombers but all score not that good.......now am looking at juliet storm and it >.>...... [16:58] yeah, I know what you mean [16:58] in my case it was Bluefunk [16:59] which scored so damn good [16:59] I still remember the bomb step even after so many years [16:59] 3044 [16:59] it became a magic number for me [17:00] :-) [17:00] its just grazy, its so well optimized that i dont get it at all :D [17:00] I used it then for a paper and it became my first koth on the 94draft hill with some points gap to the second [17:01] Head or Tail :-D [17:01] John, what was your first koth? [17:01] uninvited? [17:01] Zooom :-) [17:01] ohh yes, Zoom [17:01] Zooom [17:02] Well, actually, I think there was one called scanner test :-/ [17:02] But then Zooom :-) [17:02] that was really a nice scanner [17:02] It took me a while, because I didn't like using anyone else's code. [17:03] Not even someone else's qscan :-) [17:03] I also played a lot around the zooom trick, which lead to Arrow then [17:04] Also I didn't like writing something with a similar structure to something already published. [17:04] yes, I know [17:04] I am more the code recycler and optimizer [17:04] That's why I came up with some new stuff... .75c scans for example. [17:04] even I had some unique kind of paper [17:05] I don't think you recycle that much. [17:05] I guess the S.D.N. idea is one of the most craziest from my side [17:05] thanks :-) [17:05] E.g. your oneshot -> booted clears, or satellites [17:06] I think I'm also the only one so far who hand over the imp-launcher processes back to the stone in a stone/imp [17:07] hmmm [17:07] I should think again on something new [17:07] I have an idea for something new. Really new ;-) [17:08] But it needs some serious thinking about and some work studying some certain warriors. [17:14] why is a stupid jmz scanner better than any of my bombers -.- [17:17] Do you mean the scanner beats the bombers in a battle, or the scanner gets a better benchmark score? [17:19] benchmark score ^^......battle havent tested yet [17:21] okay >.> that's bad. scores better against bombers [17:22] Depends on the benchmark you're using. What's your best bomber score and which benchmark? [17:22] I can take a look at one of your bombers if you like [17:24] best bomber score against wilkies is 135 for example. the jmz scan written by me 160 ~ [17:24] it would really help if you have the time^^ [17:25] That's probably because Wilkies has a lot of paper, it's off balance. That's intentional because new players often struggle to beat paper. [17:26] well. nonetheless a bomber shouldnt loose against a scanner [17:41] hmm, my power supply smells like incense [17:41] or, rather my computer smells like it, the supply has gotten a dose of the smoke [17:41] doesn't sound good [17:42] its not a lung-clogging amount [18:58] ha, that reminds me [18:58] once when i was living with my sister [18:58] she comes into my room and is like "can you smell that?" [18:58] i had heard her in the kitchen and thought she was cooking [18:59] (no joke, i dont' mean it smelled like she was burning food, it just smelled.. "hot") [18:59] but when she said that i knew otherwise, looked around, and oshit the smell is coming from the power supply in my server [18:59] (the fan failed) [19:00] "i love the smell of electrolyte in the morning" [19:00] i ended up twist-tying a case fan outside the psu and running the cable inside to a connector on the mobo [19:00] hehe [19:01] i wonder what my stuff scores vs wilkies [19:01] i don't like plain copying code either, that's probably why i got nowhere so far... haven't spent enough time to get up to speed yet :P [19:03] boo, remote desktop fail [19:10] 130 not so good i guess [19:10] 75 is the first beginner's barrier [19:11] so keep on going, the hard part's behind [19:11] That reminds me that my first Modem said Goodbye with that smell ;-) [19:12] hm, [19:12] i'll have to see if even my first ones score that low [19:13] i think maybe not :> [19:39] well, close [19:39] my first bomber was 82 hehe [19:39] i think, that may be a further revision of the initial thing [19:40] wait, i don't think that was the first [19:48] ahaha, 58 [20:01] MSG: Quit: humhum [20:15] MSG: Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.84 [Firefox 3.0.10/2009042316] [20:56] is there anything to search the irc logs? [20:56] Google [20:57] What do you want to search for, I've got Sept 2005 - Feb 2009 on disk if you want me to grep them. [20:58] nevermind [20:58] i just skipped pages till i saw logs with content (~= 15k) lol [20:58] found what i was looking for [20:58] :-) [21:15] damn wtf [21:15] my stone imp sucks vs irongate lol [21:15] well not really [21:15] but it hardly ever gets any bombs off [21:15] in the end the imps save it every time [21:15] after the stun the dats come and kill off the bomber, then the imps overrun iron gate and it loses [21:15] but wtf it's only like 4, 5 instructions? hardly ever gets off any bombs :( [21:16] what imp-launch do you use? [21:16] i was testing it with that one i wrote when you were messing around some time ago [21:16] http://www.koth.org/irc-logs/2009-02-13.txt [21:17] maybe i should tweak the beginning some, but first instruction splits into the dwarf [21:17] stone [21:17] whatever [21:17] it is 5 instructions [21:17] just seems like it always gets found real fast :P [21:28] MSG: